For getting physical and beating up an advertised pedophile picking and 'touching' a 8 years old girl in front of me and while on a holiday/dining with my former boss in Thailand? Yes, I did, up to until the day I've complied to his request and paid his f n medical bill (I totally lost it and fck'ed him up quite badly at the end). Best month of my life (not).

Fred, we want ya healthy, safe, and sound.
But I see you getting pinged about the wheel center-caps.... I jsut want to bump this thread back to the top so you don't start thinking those center caps are higher priority. hahaha.
:cheers:

(I'ma send you a photo of my new project with your center caps though!! )

Waiting and ready! :)

I might be ready to part with mine for a trade + $60ish.

I had one of these for my 986 (logo and lettering in amber) and miss it since getting my 987. Know Fred is on hiatus and may be a while before he's back in his lab again creating works of art but has he done one for a 987?

PM'ing you.

I like design you can add me to the list. Very subtle blue lighting would be nice.

Haven't. But can't see what stops us from working on this together. Let's see if I can get my hands on a spare kit locally. I'll look on my side but if you know of any readily advertised F.S. do let me know and I'll import this over. -or- if you're happy to send over your existing kit then let's do that and I'll ship it back along with the engineered replacement (free, ofc!).

Time to get the balls rolling again, change mind and entertain so to speak. This covid-s-hity-19 changed quite a few plans on my side, which I won't go into details now as I feel each and everyone of us have their own crap to deal with.. whether that is business, finance, work, logistics, family, etc... my issues are much smaller than some of others', so... for later.

Where were we? Ah, yes, the controller... let me finish this prototype and sign it off, so we can move on to getting these kits laser'ed and ready for the spring/summer season :D

TADA, welcome back, glad you survived so far!:cheers:

Great to see things back online.

If you can ship to Ireland put my name on one!

Stay safe

So... we've agreed to have:

1) RGB Colors & Brightness
2) Brake Light Signal
3) Some fun...

Spent the day yesterday thinking how the HMI would work out. Thought of analog buttons but then quickly realized we are in year 2020(I think?) and buttons where, like, 1969 style user interaction. Got in-touch with an old display supplier today and asked whether they had small displays engineered for cold weather "with capacitive touch". To my surprise he said he had them in all sizes (lol). So had him sending me the dwg to see if I can fit this bad boy into a relatively small enclosure (hand-held) and I'm quite happy with the size, not much bigger than what we had before anyway (picture a mini-iPhone thingy).

The display is 240X340 resolution, 2.4", capacitive touch (i.e not the old resistive style needing a silly stylus), 16-bit, writes at 60ns (!!!), -20~70dC spec'ed.

My question to you guys is this:

Now that we anticipate to have a (half)modern controller, "is there anything else that you would like to have in this thing apart from RGB and some fun?". I'm thinking developers in mind as I know a whole lot of you folks would love to thinker with this so I just need to know if you need some extra bells & whistles in the kit e.g. K-Line (aka make your own Durametric or performance map up-loader), Roof-controller, Jet-Propulsion On-Switch, some extra GPIOs for <insert feature here>.....

Open for both brilliant & silly ideas, please chime before I hit the schematic design!

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^ Just a quick CAD perspective. Trying to gauge the PCB size we'll be given to play this out.

Let's see...I think we all agreed, that we would like to have that controller integrated into a Porsche rear view mirror, so we could additionally connect that to our WLAN backup cameras, right?

Back-up cam?? you meant X-RAY Vision to see through clothes, right?

Man, the rear-view mirror enclosure. I think you are sounding innovation right there Bran! Let me have a look at the existing one and see if we could re-use the glass and mount but have it re-designed.

Any (other)brilliant idea(s) like this one, hit it guys!

If we are going to have a controller for the wind screen lights, would it be possible to add outputs or controls for the same or similar led’s to add footwell lighting or???


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Quick Update on the LED winner; we are going for addressable LED. Most commonly known as WS2812B. Therefore a POS(+) NEG(-) and a IO (3-wires). The LEDs are independently/digitally driven by SPI and a clock source so this makes it much easier for me to drive this controller-side wise. It makes no difference to the user other than being able to create custom fading/mixing patterns and other cool effects, which I suspect will be of any interest or use, but the feature is there if needed.

Trying to visualize your idea. How do you see this working out installation-wise? Do we need a whole lot of lighting or 1 (or 2) LED is sufficient per each sides? I'm interested to hear more when you have time.

Is below what you had in mind? Something you can control via that SkyBreaker controller for both color and brightness? (Thanks btw!)

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edit: don't feel overwhelmed by those ports, possibly going to be a single-core harness with a stress-relief boot instead (cleaner) or a one multi-pin connector sharing same GND and (+). Yet to arrive at that part of the design, just putting this here for feature visualization/debate.

Yep, love it! Depending where the controller is mounted I would imagine a strip or 1-3 leds depending on brightness to add under dash on each side for the footwell lighting. Maybe other light applications for those not interested in footwell lighting? Option for rope or others if the connections would be interchangeable and can be sourced even later?? Would the color/controls be independent of the skybreaker or need to be the same?

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I like this idea. The visual speaks too, not a bad in-car mood lighting at all in fact, thanks for putting this up (easy to understand!).

The color & brightness can be independent from the skybreaker and a software option (checkbox) can be labelled "synchronize color" so to have the same color for both footwell and skybreaker. The brightness can (and should) remain independent though.

So... SPI1(SkyBreaker) and SPI2(Footwell) with a color sync option. I'll see if I can wire & write this up. The only challenge now is to think of some ways to have 3 LED per each side enclosed in some type of enclosure that can be discretely mounted somewhere in there. Let me think of something... I'll update on the progress

:cheers:

Question... If looking for more HMI interactions and possible growth, couldn't the controller wireless connect to either my phone or my headunit?

I have not done a lot of work with leds and their control, but in the robotics and IoT applications I have been working with it almost always makes more sense to manage the controller over wireless rather then add the complexity of lcds and touchscreens to the device.

Thoughts?

Edit: added:

I might be failing to correctly imagine the final outcome.. I am picturing having to incorporate a 2.4" screen somewhere in my car and although the mirror is a good idea, personally I think I would rather keep things simple in the boxster. This car is more about driving to me.. but if could control from my phone or headunit.. that is a bonus.

Read all, quoted the key message and understand fully what you are saying. And you are 100% correct. Main challenge being that cross-platform impediment and management from a coding perspective; Steve got an iPhone, Ruth got an Android, lil sister got an HTC, big sister got the new XYZ and cousin have his Blackberry, you see where I'm going with this...

Sought of using a cross-platform one-fit-all solution e.g. a browser addy http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:XXXX and port over lets say a NRF24L01+ or a LT8920 radio IC (2.4Ghz) but then the work involved is equivalent if not more than simply coding an X&Y axis touch screen. The radio would also require FCC ID (if compliance is an issue for anyone) :/

Finally, if the device would be used daily like a tune-in radio or similar then it would make sense to put in connectivity but in this case chances the color & brightness settings will be set once (or twice) then forgotten.

Not all lost cause. We'll have extra GPIOs on the device and probably use a nice quad size for developers to expand this controller to what-ever-they-want. That would include connectivity if what they add in the future requires that feature!!!

If there is anything that could convince me otherwise please do let me know and I'll reconsider my opinions. Thanks for trying to help out, appreciated btw!


Edit: Adding in a MCP2021A-330E/SN, sort of a gift to our Devs who wish to have both read & write access to the ECU and car data and/or build their own HMI around that (comm via k-line over 10400baud). So see, plenty of other tricks you'll be able to do with this lil cool box ;)

Already half-way in the preliminary design. Sort of gauging what we'll need in term of hardware so to get this on order for tests. So far got the MCU, Display, a Quad-SPI Flash (for the display assets) and a K-line transceiver. Yet arrived to the SMPS, protection and filtering to power up that kit. We have a 64 pins quad there and from the look of things we'll need to beef this up to 100pins already lol All good fun!

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Absolutely.. admittedly I have a software bias and see design challenges through that lens. My choice here would probably be WebBluetooth in a PWA app. It is then 1 application for most platforms. But that said, I acknowledge the overhead and while I would not mind throwing down the code myself it would require maintenance and patching, 2 years from now x api is no longer supported and the reality is hobby time is hard to come by. Now if it were something that had a wide audience and was no longer a hobby, that is different :P. All joking aside though I think sort of scope creep is what i feared in general with the screen and touch. I am curious to see what the possibilities are too (and open to them) but unless it is something really killer, I think I am personally more inclined to go with the simple buttons that don't have me taking apart half my interior to run wire to the screen. Ironically I used to rip brand new cars apart and stuff them full of screens, computers, cameras and all sorts of **************** and now I want them as close to original as possible.. Sorry, digression

Yes.. when it comes to hardware i live blissfully in the naive prototype playground, buying controllers with approved radios, etc. That said I am following this thread with great interest because I want to understand the process better. Thank you for providing all the detail you do. When I get a few breathers over the next couple of weeks I am going to try to dig more into the details

I agree, but I think the other factor is how integrated it is and accessible. I think an android auto / apple car play head unit app that let you manage all interior led colors would likely get a lot of use. For all I know they are already available.

Cool.. looks like a basic serial connection, could actually send that to a BT module if i got the inclination (or just solder up to a Arduino's serial for simplicity) and got board and wanted to create such an app :). thank you!

BTW.. what type of messages would I want to send over the connection to the controller?? (Sorry if you have not gotten this far yet or if you posted it already)

Pardon my short memory I've just realized we had a chat about a car PC a few months back. Glad you've found out this thread and chiming in some good points, all very valid in fact (thanks!). If all of that stuff would be easy to implement trust me I'd swing in all your ideas in a flash, but as you know (I'm sure you do) its always about compromises :/

Didn't know Apple brought-in interior lighting control in their product. I find it rude that they've forgotten all about the SkyBreaker. I'm insulted, let me raise an official complaint right away :mad:

A BT-over-uart would work perfectly fine, good idea btw! That uart would take a 0x33 "init" at 5 baud (write), wait for a 0x55 response from the ECU (read) and after that you'd send out requests (mode, PID) to comm with the car. e.g.

uint8_t message[5] = {0x68, 0x6A, 0xF1, 0x01, 0x11}; // ask for throttle pos

Modes and PIDs conversion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBD-II_PIDs

Something like that.

ps. I'm up to hacking the A/F so to get seasonal performance maps uploaded. I may get in touch with someone I know back in the UK who specialize in car performance mapping and see if he is interested in partnership. e.g. you'd buy his engineer service, get a re-map for your vehicle and have that uploaded before a track day (or illegal night race at the industrial park, in my case LOL) and have the original oem map restored after that, You get the idea....

Anyway. All-very-early indeed. pps; Just had two of those (kick-arse) capacitive displays arriving today, I'll breadboard one over this evening to confirm the pinout and see how that goes! They are incredibly beautiful and well engineered it appears, so slim too

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How about lighting effects that change with the audio of the sound system?

Tony

There are systems out there already that work with LED's and Bluetooth. I have XK glow for ambient lights and you can do alot of cool colors and have it change with speed or music etc..

The capacitive touchscreen is cool if we could fit it in the batwing area? I have some buttons there for heat seat warmers and the LED light. If that was touchscreen it would set it apart.

Also look at this on eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/113701594285


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We are so young, forever will, that's good Tony!!!


True that, its all over here too and in several voltage, port to android, iphone, hand held, you get dizzy just looking at all those options. But none can do brake signal input, expand to dev's thinkies (k-line?), and none comes with a sexy CNC enclosure with a built-in quality IPS capacitive touch display :D

Thanks for linking-up, good catch I had that in mind too. We have them here in fact, 100% custom. Using a similar solution from a domestic manufacturer for an HMI active membrane switch (recessed push-buttons and clear window). Completely different alley though (i.e. automation system). You send them a *.AI template with the pantone colors and they ship you out your membrane in <48hrs. Interestingly enough, they cost X5 more (per unit) than that IPS display if you consider a small quantity... which is our case :/

Anyway. All brilliant ideas none the less, thanks for sharing those along guys and keep em coming.

Sounds good, theyre pretty easy to come by on the used market so I ordered one off fleabay for $100 (hopefully its in good shape). Shoot me a PM (or reply to the PM I sent you a couple weeks ago) with your mailing address and Ill send you 2 kits, send me back the best of the two and the other you can keep.

They'll both be refitted! probably going to get that extra one priced eventually so pass on your paypal addy and I'll void the shipping cost on those. Pm sent. :cheers:

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These are awesome. I want 1 !!

Are these still available they look incredible?

I don't think they're available YET, let alone still! Haha

I've been watching for where to send my money.... ;-)

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They are so nice, do the middle wind reflectors make ahuge difference in noise? I dont actually have one.

Did I hear amber lighting .. good for speed yellow?

I'm in ..

How can I help?

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FNG here...are these still available for purchase?

Thanks.

I havent posted in a long time and lost touch. Nine8Six hasnt been active in years, is he still doing wind deflectors elsewhere?

Nope. Went quiet, just like this forum.