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My understanding is that the OBC will work fine with your cluster, but you just won't have the same high-res dot matrix display.
I may have my dot matrix cluster for sale soon. I just found a 996 cluster and plan on swapping that in. Now I need to see if I can find white gauge faces for the oil pressure and volt meter that match the script used on the Boxster. |
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My car came with Cruise, my Tech said it was easy to turn on the OBC...will the stalk just plug in ??
I added a OBC Stalk and computer to my E36 years ago, I had to take the dash out and change a good bit of the wiring...but it was not a tough job at all. |
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The stalk will attach to the existing steering column but you will need to either make the hole for the stalk to come through the rubber or buy the 2 opening rubber. Also you will need to make up a loom to connect the stalk to the cluster as per : http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/box_OBD_Mod/box_obd_mod.htm |
mctigercom choose either screw, I chose the bottom one and did not have to sand it.
Picture is before upgrade started. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1400852477.jpg |
2004 S
Danch this is what my display now looks like with the OBC enabled, maybe it can do more but all I was really interested in was the temp being displayed. When I use the OBC stalk to scroll the display only changes where the temperature is displayed. Danch, what is a "loom"!!?? "Switch" I think your referring to stalk? http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1400854594.jpg As far as the opening that is required in the rubber cover to accommodate the new stalk, I would not buy a new one because it is already there on the existing one, you just have to use a sharp blade and cut it out. This photo is before the 2nd stalk was addded. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1400855007.jpg Pdwight if you check out the previous pics in this thread you should be able to see how the new OBC stalk is connected to the control box. If you want more definition in the picture PM me and I'll send you the actual photo so you can zoom in on it. If you have an 03-04 the wiring harness you have to make up is not difficult. With the VW wires no soldering is necessary. |
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That's what I call it anyway ;) Think I've talked myself into swapping out for a C2 cluster at the same time :D |
[QUOTE=danch;401674]Nope loom ;) , the small wiring loom that you make up using the vw wires
Ah, ....Ok, I was picturing a Weavers loom and wondering how we could relate a weavers loom with a porsche's instrument dash...... or why would a person want to install it in a porsche and what benefit would it be to the instrument panel? So I then concluded, he was going to do the RED GREEN thing. He was going to use the Porsche OBC to control the loom to make the loom work faster and thereby more profitable and now being Porsche mobile he was going to be able to set up at the different woolen mills faster than his competitors. All Porsche owners are always looking for an excuse to drive their cars. Thank god you cleared that up quickly because I'm pretty sure there would have been a hell of a mess with a Loom trying to operate at the speeds a Porshe Boxster could potentially bring it to. I don't think even RED GREEN himself would have enough Duck Tape on hand to fix the remnants of that type of mess. Maybe a lowered power car like a Ford Fiesta would be a better choice for an endeavor like this.:cheers: |
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perhaps a micro Nano Loom weaving tiny microscopic Carbon-Carbon particles into a matrix that is fed directly into the IMS bearing so it will not fail ever.
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some other common translations British ................................... ROW English Boot ................................... Trunk Bonnet ..................................... Hood Hood ....................................... Top Drive on wrong side .................. Drive on correct side spanner ............................... .. wrench Tyre ......................................... .Tire weight measured in stones ......... weight measured in pounds Octane RON ............................... Octane AKI LOL |
All kidding aside....a source for the parts
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000-979-010 Connector wire and pins for cluster (Volkswagen part) 3 000-979-009 Connector wire and pins for stalk (Volkswagen part) I need 5 wires, a good source instead of paying a Dealer 25 bucks for each wire |
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Danch, I'm glad you saw the humor! haa!
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Pdwight if your working with a 2003-04 you only use 009 wires (5). These wires have the proper pins already crimped on the ends.
You will also need a OBC connector (plug socket) # 999-650-513-40 (confirm this number). Check out sunset imports porsche. |
I have a 2001 S , it came equipped with Cruise from the factory...thanks I will check them out
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I got my plug, 999-650-513-40, at the local Porsche dealership for $10.11 and the wires, 000-979-009-E, at the Volkswagen dealer down the street from the Porsche dealer for $11.00 each and the blade connector for the ground at Home Depot, 10 for $2.12.
I had the dealer enable the OBC last fall and just got around to doing my install last night. Thanks for the info for 2003-2004 cars. This was very helpful. Mike |
For those wanting to do this DIY, there is a stalk on eBay at a pretty good price. I have no affiliation.
Porsche Carrera 996 Boxster 986 4 Stalk Column Switch 996 613 219 10 Matte | eBay |
So in trying to make sense of this mod, is it easier to swap the complete 4/stalk to a 3/stalk car by adding the extra cable for the OBC function? Mine is 02. And then enable OBC function?
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I just swapped the stalk from the 4 stalk to my 3 stalk. Buy the harness from PDwight.
http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-parts-sale-wanted/53234-obc-harness-sale.html |
Hi Folks.
I just gone through an OCB / CC upgrade in mine 2004 2.7 986. Went fine, but only partially :confused: OCB works while CC not. When I turn the key (before starting the engine) all LEDs are on. Also green LED from CC appears - it wasn't before the up. But when engine is on nothing happen, pressing the button on the stalk doesn't turnt the light on of CC. I'm in a fix... Could it be faulty 4-stalk controller or some connection issues ? Regards, Tomasz |
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Tell us exactly what you did. Did you reprogram using a PIWIS? I did the full install on an early model, including adding the pedal actuator, sensors, and wiring. I then did a quick write-up on the Porsche Club Poland forum. |
The first time I did this, I was able to add the OBC stalk (removed from a donor 4 stalk) to the 3 stalk in the car, without having to remove the steering wheel. It made the process much easier.
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Hi Folks,
Thank you for your response. Finally I found the fix. After installing all HW modifications I completely forgot to activate CC in 2 places: Instrument Cluster and DME. I've only activated CC in Instrument Cluster and that caused such behavior. Activating CC in DME as well solved the issue :) Greetings! |
98 cruse control...
I've got the stalk, and box under the dash ....
I'll never use them (my ecu will not support it, swapped motor) worth anything to anyone? thx, matt p.s or should I bin it all. |
Don't bin it, put it for sale, I have actually seen people ask about it before. I bet there is someone that wants to try to add CC to their 2.5 Boxster.
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For anyone looking to do this upgrade, I saw this stalk this morning on eBay. All you care about is that he OBC stalk works which it says it does. Just remove the stalk and add it to yours. I don't have any affiliation with the seller, I just thought I would pass it along.
Porsche Carrera 996 Boxster 986 4 Stalk Column Switch 996 613 219 10 Matte | eBay |
I have the harness to add cruise control. The VW wires/plug as described by Pelican. PM me if anyone is interested.
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I've purchased an OBC stalk which was previously retrofitted but they had cut off the original connector and installed their own. Not a worry, I can make a harness to suit. But, what are the pinouts for the stalk?
I found the following on Pelican Parts: Boxster 2001-2004 Connector Pin #2 Gauge Cluster Pin #23 Select Mode Down Connector Pin #3 Gauge Cluster Pin #22 Speed Alert/Gong Connector Pin #4 Gauge Cluster Pin #21 Select Mode Forwards Connector Pin #5 Gauge Cluster Pin #24 Select Mode Backwards I'm a little confused at "Speed Alert/Gong". The stalk has Select Up and Down, Enter (push?), Escape (pull?) I've connected a multimeter to the earth and each pin and have found that on mine is: Red = Down - So Pin #2, connect to #23 on cluster Yellow = Up - assuming Pin #3 then and connect to #22 on cluster? Blue = Push - So Pin #4, connect to #21 on cluster Black = Pull - So Pin #5, connect to #24 on cluster Can anyone please confirm? Pic of my stalk: http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/...ps01ggvzyy.jpg |
I am going to upgrade my Boxster S 2002 ROW with CC stalk, reading sevral treads I found two verison for wiring refere to model yeare 2001-2002.
On the majority there indication to link a wirw from the cluster to DME on soem other is wrote this not necessary doe the fact that after 2001 new instrument cluster does not require this conenction. Someone as more details? |
No need to connect to DME
Or at least on USA cars, I have manufactured many harness to retrofit a 4 stalk. You need a common or ground and the wires that go to the instrument cluster....no need to run any more wires.
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I just installed the 4vstalk on my car 986 my02 the obc works fine, the cc works but instrument light light does not switch on. Someone knows why? |
Did you check the bulb?
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The cluster as equipped with led no standard bulb, so I did not open it
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I finally completed the OBC and CC hacks to my '01 Boxster back in February.
I bought a used 4-switch stalk from Parts Heaven that was in excellent shape. I also purchased Pdwight's OBC harness which is "first class". I made my own wiring harness for the CC functions; followed the guide on Pelican which was a great help. Finally activated everything with my Durametric Pro. Both the OBC and CC functions have been working fine ever since. They are great! IMHO, these are two of the best upgrades available for Boxster's without OBC and/or Cruise Control. |
Thank You for the kind words
I try to make every effort to make my harnesses the very best hand made product possible.
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IMHO, you have accomplished your goal!
Thanks for your first class OBC harness! |
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so let me get this straight. If one is to install the 4-stalk, some wires are "doubled", in other words, connected to same pins from the stalk, but different on the gray one (C plug). Pin 1 is ground and goes to Pin 17 Pin 2 goes to Pin 23 and Fuse B7 Pin 3 goes to Pin 22 and Pin 4 Pin 4 goes to Pin 1 and 21 Pin 5 goes to Pin 24 Is that right? Base 2003. I hope to get clarification soon as I am in the middle of the project... |
OK, never mind... I figured it out myself. I just needed a night of sleep.
Of course those are two different plugs. Somehow when I read initially the project it sounded to me like it is enough to get the 4-stalk and 5 wires, plus the plug. Yes, that is true for the OBC. There was no plug to purchase for Cruise Control. OBC has a 6-pin connector where only 5 are used. CC has a 4-pin connector and all of them are utilised. Therefore, if one wants to do both projects at the same time - you will need overall 9 wires and preferably 16 plugs (one is ground while the other goes to B7 fuse) . |
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