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c_maldonado2001 05-12-2016 07:44 AM

Thanks F18febe i appreciate your answer.

Carlitos

c_maldonado2001 05-12-2016 09:13 AM

F18febe, does the Pelican package include the clear corner lenses

and how did go on doing the LED DR1 was this through like an LED light strip
that was cut to fit or do they come custom.

carlitos

F18febe 05-12-2016 08:39 PM

Headlights
 
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Originally Posted by c_maldonado2001 (Post 495762)
F18febe, does the Pelican package include the clear corner lenses

and how did go on doing the LED DR1 was this through like an LED light strip
that was cut to fit or do they come custom.

carlitos

The project is a headlight retrofit, so I used the housings of my original headlights. What you get from Pelican Parts are new HID GT3 projectors. You need to remove your headlights from your car, if you want to use your current headlights which you may not want to because they still have the amber lenses, and open them up to remove the halogen bulbs. Once the halogen bulbs are out, and you removed the burnt lenses, you insert the projectors and paint the interior parts if you want to, and reassemble. It is a lengthy project, but once complete it makes a big difference and updates the look of the front end.

The Daytime Running Lights that I installed are not custom to the Boxster. They install in the grill on your bumper. Installation was a snap if you are able to splice a couple of wires. Instructions were very clear.

c_maldonado2001 05-13-2016 04:13 AM

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I would like to do mine to end up like the ones shown below. i will hunt around for that shroud. Looks very nice. I would like to also change that orange color to all clear. so i will hunt around for that too. My understanding is that Pelican is out of these parts.

Thanks alot for your help. I think i can take on the challenge. Just alot of reading to do to get it right from the get go. Once the drilling begins on the OEM headlights there is no going back.

Thanks again,

Carlitos

RedBeauty 05-14-2016 02:05 AM

Hi. Is there anyone that knows if pelican wil get the gt projectors in their webshop again? I have watched this tred for a while and want to install the Luminoso series. Unfortunately pelican does not hawe them now, and as they have written here earlier they "hope to" fill Stock again. It would be nice to know if it's still posible to get them otherwise i have to start looking for other possibilities.

Carl

c_maldonado2001 05-19-2016 05:05 AM

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Anybody know were i can get these LED headlight strips.

Looked all over for them.http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1463663114.jpg

Would i be able to fit those LED strip lights in my headlight that has two seperate amber lenses.

It seem that the headlight that uses this led strip does not have the headlight divided with two bottom
lenses. it's all like one piece. not sure

thatguychad 05-19-2016 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by c_maldonado2001 (Post 496507)
Anybody know were i can get these LED headlight strips.

Looked all over for them.http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1463663114.jpg

Would i be able to fit those LED strip lights in my headlight that has two seperate amber lenses.

It seem that the headlight that uses this led strip does not have the headlight divided with two bottom
lenses. it's all like one piece. not sure

Taste aside, you must not have been looking very hard. Those headlights all over eBay (from $2000-3000 US) and the general consensus is that they're garbage and your best bet is to avoid them.

c_maldonado2001 05-19-2016 07:19 AM

Thanks for heads up thatguychad but i wanting
to retrofit my original old headlights to look like the ones shown there
not replace them.

Just wondering if the LED can and headlight cover can be purchase seperately
to make that kind of continuous look of one piece cover

if not, would i be able to put LED with that V-shape in my old headlights
when i do my retrofit, shrouds, ballast, etc

batshapedheart 05-19-2016 11:26 AM

Carlitos, I own those aftermarket headlights with the LEDs, they look amazing but they have a lot of fitment issues and the first generations had LEDs that died rather quickly, the UV protection peeled too. As much as I like the look, I don't think they're worth $1000.
(PS: I PM'd you)

c_maldonado2001 05-20-2016 04:57 AM

Wow, amazing batshapedheart. So happy for this forum.

One can be spending big bucks without knowing to find out later the downside.

i've been reading the Porsche 986 & 996 Headlights Bi-xenon HID conversion over and over. and i think i got the general idea of what needs to be done.

im just overwhelmed of the choices that one has on how to be creative on the
headlight. My Boxster is parked in garage so i can spend any time needed to get it done with no rush.

Im going to try to make out of my headlights the closest i can get to look like yours without spending an arm and a leg.

emeraldcity 05-20-2016 06:49 PM

Hi all, anyone know if there is a new batch coming through or is gunmetal the choice from here out? I like the idea of red on my black S. Has anyone with a black boxster put the red projectors on yet that could share a pic?

thatguychad 05-20-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by emeraldcity (Post 496747)
Hi all, anyone know if there is a new batch coming through or is gunmetal the choice from here out? I like the idea of red on my black S. Has anyone with a black boxster put the red projectors on yet that could share a pic?

It'd sure be nice if the GT Projectors would show up in a search for GT projector on Pelicanparts.com...or if they showed up in the headlight conversion category. I've only found the gunmetal Vivos and they show in stock. I want to get a set of Turismos in gunmetal.

986_Ron 05-21-2016 11:28 AM

So are these gunmetal VIVO Series GT Projector Headlight Retrofits the only decent update option right now?

My headlights are looking a little dated. Rest of the car looks great. Haven't really been keeping up on things on the forum.

Firstorbit84 06-04-2016 08:00 AM

Can someone who has their lights taken apart please measure the diameter of the reflector housing / "Bowl"?

I'm thinking of doing a retrofit using 7 inch round Universal LED lights that they make for motorcycles and jeeps. There's also 5.75" round.

Has anyone done a stacked double projector like the new 991? Or offset stacked like the Carrera GT?

redbox986 06-06-2016 03:30 AM

I have mine open right now (but I'm at work). I'm putting in 3" 'Porsche 4 LED' that are 3" round. Don't do it. Stick with what they are selling on this thread. I'm having to modify my reflector bowl and it is quite painful. 7" round sounds huge. I spent 4 hours yesterday with a dremel reshaping the reflector bowl to get one retrofit to fit.

The problem is the bowl is concave, and when you go to put a large diameter retrofit in there, the sides of the bowl keep the retrofit from sliding all the way in. Then, the threaded back of the retrofit won't make it through the back of the housing.

I have pictures, I can probably load them up later.

CHRISP357 06-06-2016 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emeraldcity (Post 496747)
Hi all, anyone know if there is a new batch coming through or is gunmetal the choice from here out? I like the idea of red on my black S. Has anyone with a black boxster put the red projectors on yet that could share a pic?

I Have the red on my black 02S and they look fantastic! For some reason I can no longer post pictures from my phone to this forum, not sure what that's all about, but pm me an email or phone and I will send or text you some shots. I also blacked out my tail lights and the results are stunning.

BruceH 06-07-2016 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CHRISP357 (Post 498751)
I Have the red on my black 02S and they look fantastic! For some reason I can no longer post pictures from my phone to this forum, not sure what that's all about, but pm me an email or phone and I will send or text you some shots. I also blacked out my tail lights and the results are stunning.

The forum changed something, I can't post pics from my iPad anymore as well, frustrating.

redbox986 06-07-2016 11:46 AM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1465328493.jpg

FirstOrbit84 -

Here's an in-process pic of my headlights. The lens is off, but you can see the new projector lens and shroud. The diameter of the shroud is so big, and the reflector bowl is not large enough diameter to accommodate the large diameter of the shroud.

Because of this, I had to cut/modify the reflector bowl, millimeter at a time. I got it in there, but because I hacked up the reflector bowl I ended up painting it black. I was going to leave it unpainted originally.

This is as far as I got last Sunday. More excitement this weekend.

Firstorbit84 06-07-2016 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by redbox986 (Post 498799)

FirstOrbit84 -

Here's an in-process pic of my headlights. The lens is off, but you can see the new projector lens and shroud. The diameter of the shroud is so big, and the reflector bowl is not large enough diameter to accommodate the large diameter of the shroud.

Because of this, I had to cut/modify the reflector bowl, millimeter at a time. I got it in there, but because I hacked up the reflector bowl I ended up painting it black. I was going to leave it unpainted originally.

This is as far as I got last Sunday. More excitement this weekend.

Wow. Those look amazing! Thanks for the replies and sharing pics.

Do you mind getting a measurement of the bowl diameter?

What's the outside diameter of your projector shrouds?

For clarification, here's what I'm thinking of dropping in:

They're 7" in diameter, and you can buy mounting rings, too.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1005_.jpg
They come in chrome too:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1005_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1005_.jpg
I'll have to do some dremeling, but the backs don't seem that deep, and since they're LED, they don't have to thread through like the HID projectors, so I think they may fit if the bowl is close to 7".

They also come in 5.75".

How is the bowl attached to the housing?

Null 06-08-2016 12:48 PM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1465418877.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1465418903.jpg
Hope this helps

redbox986 06-09-2016 03:24 AM

The bowl is held in by three "ball in socket", according to something I read. It said if you pop them out, then you can pop them back in. But since the car is 13 years old, and every tab I touch seems to be brittle and break, I didn't take mine out. I actually cut the bowl with it in the housing. It made a mess, and clean up was a real pain.

I see Null posted some great pics of the bowl with measurements. I'm at work, but will try to get measurements of my setup tonight and post.

B6T 06-09-2016 05:19 AM

The Morimoto Mini H1 projectors fit without extensive modification to the reflector bowl, correct?

redbox986 06-09-2016 09:25 AM

That is my understanding (they fit with minimal/no modification to reflector bowl). I wish I had gone that route. I think mine will be OK when complete, but it is a bigger project than I had envisioned.

Firstorbit84 06-09-2016 03:53 PM

Awesome. Thanks for the measurements Null.

amagalla 06-11-2016 07:55 PM

One of the Angle Eye LEDs has gone out on mine. What can I do?

Tony

Nine8Six 06-12-2016 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by amagalla (Post 499340)
One of the Angle Eye LEDs has gone out on mine. What can I do?

Tony

Option 1. Cancel the other side, get fresh xenon bulbs, love & polish the lens, and end it there with angel eyes - they are illegal anyway lolll

Option 2. Get a new set of bezels (so they match!) when this guy who wrote they would be available in spring have them again. Forgot his name suddenly

(#2, you keep the existing hardware, just swap the bezels over (need to reopen the headlight) get on with a brand new shinny set

If you go the #1 route, ensure that the little led ballast is not fried before. I could simply express you one of those and voila.

LED sux (sorry). They forever will, hate the thing and not exactly sure why. Personally never had too much luck with any led - those I've owned anyway. And yes, even my Made in Germany led flashlight toasted during a trek-out Friday late evening far-far-up in the HuangShan Mountain. How more kewl can you be when this poo happens while trekking with friends lolll

From the list of lighting systems available today, personally I prefer fire - it just works everytime

PS, Tony, you want a new set of xenon bulbs while in there, been a while (just did mine a few weeks ago). Instant noticeable improvement

Nine8Six 06-12-2016 10:01 AM

and I know I know, don't ask.

I have all the parts of those projector machined. Got tons finally loll Or surely enough to accommodate about 200kits. Saying 'about'; meaning less those that I'll certainly screw up either under the laser of during anodizing. I should have about 175~180 kits out very very soon

Yes, some with-or-without LED angel eyes options - your choice really!

Nine8Six 06-17-2016 06:39 PM

Quick update
 
Hello friends ((using-my-embarrassed-tone)),

I’ve received quite a few pm related to the back-order issue and just wanted to reassure that I am trying everything I can to get things moving. It will happen before the end of this month. We plan and aim for this (around the clock almost here believe me).

I'll be honest, atm I am working aggressively along with mate Andy here on the technologies that we’ll need to get things rolling smoothly. We are currently busy designing secure web services to support the distribution and retail aspects of our little start-up here e.g. dedicated cloud-based server and back-end, PCI compliance for payments, ecommerce platform with group/roles to support both distributor and customer level, stuff like that.

We are particularly struggling in getting some fancy visuals decided for e.g pics of the shop, the new cnc machines, ‘the workbench’ basically. Renderings, videos of the actual products, installation manuals, Our Blog!... arrgg there are tons of things that remains on the To Do list it’s almost annoying. All good fun!

^ We want (neeeed) to get all of that out of the way before moving to assembly and packaging, or manufacturing, and oh... resuming wip from a few projects that we had running last autumn. The day Andy and I will be in full-customer-support-mode, at that point we just won’t have time to give ‘technology’ additional developments - well at least this is not the objective for the rest of this year anyway!

RE technologies; did I mentioned the forced HTTP2 and TLS1.2 / HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) full implementation??? That’s right, our server-side and eCommerce technologies will run on the most secured back-end you can possibly have today - same as your bank basically (backed info, you can run it to SSLLabs or similar tools if you don't believe me). Not to mention local hdd military grade encryption for ours & partner’s solid model part files, nda agreement templates… etc etc... man, not all that easy to start-up :/

All Top Notch as everyone would expect and certainly would hope it to be (I would anyway). Here’s a quick peak preview of the site’s inner peace (static visual).

(ps. any sort of help from the community is always welcome lolll)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7425/2...a674a459_b.jpg

Radar 06-21-2016 03:50 PM

I can't wait for these to become available!

986ohana 06-22-2016 05:41 AM

I would love a set of your headlights! Looked for your website but nothing came up

glenf 07-08-2016 10:59 AM

Hello out there, any update :cheers:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 499909)
Hello friends ((using-my-embarrassed-tone)),

I’ve received quite a few pm related to the back-order issue and just wanted to reassure that I am trying everything I can to get things moving. It will happen before the end of this month. We plan and aim for this (around the clock almost here believe me).

I'll be honest, atm I am working aggressively along with mate Andy here on the technologies that we’ll need to get things rolling smoothly. We are currently busy designing secure web services to support the distribution and retail aspects of our little start-up here e.g. dedicated cloud-based server and back-end, PCI compliance for payments, ecommerce platform with group/roles to support both distributor and customer level, stuff like that.

We are particularly struggling in getting some fancy visuals decided for e.g pics of the shop, the new cnc machines, ‘the workbench’ basically. Renderings, videos of the actual products, installation manuals, Our Blog!... arrgg there are tons of things that remains on the To Do list it’s almost annoying. All good fun!

^ We want (neeeed) to get all of that out of the way before moving to assembly and packaging, or manufacturing, and oh... resuming wip from a few projects that we had running last autumn. The day Andy and I will be in full-customer-support-mode, at that point we just won’t have time to give ‘technology’ additional developments - well at least this is not the objective for the rest of this year anyway!

RE technologies; did I mentioned the forced HTTP2 and TLS1.2 / HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) full implementation??? That’s right, our server-side and eCommerce technologies will run on the most secured back-end you can possibly have today - same as your bank basically (backed info, you can run it to SSLLabs or similar tools if you don't believe me). Not to mention local hdd military grade encryption for ours & partner’s solid model part files, nda agreement templates… etc etc... man, not all that easy to start-up :/

All Top Notch as everyone would expect and certainly would hope it to be (I would anyway). Here’s a quick peak preview of the site’s inner peace (static visual).

(ps. any sort of help from the community is always welcome lolll)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7425/2...a674a459_b.jpg


2000986s 07-20-2016 11:47 AM

I just stumbled upon this forum in the process of looking for headlights for my silver 2000 s. It looks like a couple different people are selling some things here. There are 64 pages and instead of hunting through them, I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to fill me in on who is selling what and what the headlights look like? Or tell me to stop being a lazy ass and just read the whole thread:D

jpc763 07-20-2016 12:09 PM

nine8six is the developer of the kit and Pelican Parts now sells the kit (although I believe they are out of stock). It is up to you to install the kit in your existing lights. Here is the install instructions - http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/GTProjectors/Porsche_986_996_Headlight_Retrofit_Instructions.pd f

As far as what they look like, here are a few posts in this thread with pictures.

http://986forum.com/forums/454237-post1021.html

http://986forum.com/forums/460026-post1063.html

This is my set!

http://986forum.com/forums/469610-post1103.html

2000986s 07-20-2016 12:45 PM

Wow this looks amazing!!!! I am stuck on whether to do this option or use Jeff's black headlights from xtreme. Of course both seem to be out of stock at the moment... I searched pelican parts but I couldnt even find a listing for the out of stock kit. do you have a link by chance?

Thanks for saving me the time of looking through the whole thread!

jpc763 07-20-2016 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 2000986s (Post 503757)
Wow this looks amazing!!!! I am stuck on whether to do this option or use Jeff's black headlights from xtreme. Of course both seem to be out of stock at the moment... I searched pelican parts but I couldnt even find a listing for the out of stock kit. do you have a link by chance?

Thanks for saving me the time of looking through the whole thread!

Here is the post from Luca at Pelican with a link to the projectors.

http://986forum.com/forums/453533-post1012.html

particlewave 07-20-2016 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000986s (Post 503757)
Wow this looks amazing!!!! I am stuck on whether to do this option or use Jeff's black headlights from xtreme. Of course both seem to be out of stock at the moment... I searched pelican parts but I couldnt even find a listing for the out of stock kit. do you have a link by chance?

Thanks for saving me the time of looking through the whole thread!

If you're considering the craptastic "LED" headlights offered by extreme, I have a toilet that you can flush $1000 down and save yourself some time and aggravation. ;)

2000986s 07-20-2016 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 503779)
If you're considering the craptastic "LED" headlights offered by extreme, I have a toilet that you can flush $1000 down and save yourself some time and aggravation. ;)

Damn!!! Really?!?! I have read enough of these forums to take whatever you and nine8six say to heart... but god damn I was so excited for those lights because they look amazing!!! So would you say my best bet is to do that one off pelican parts when they are back in stock? any other recomendations? I just want something that doesnt have amber in it, looks updated, and not cheap.

particlewave 07-20-2016 03:28 PM

Fred (nine8six) hasn't said much lately, but hopefully he will have some kits before long. That's definitely the best route to go.

The headlights sold by extreme have fit issues, LEDs that burn out after little use, cheap plastic everywhere and no UV coating on the main lens (a little sun exposure and the plastic main lens will look terrible). The built in projectors are also made of cheap plastic (even the reflectors themselves) and I would consider them a fire hazard. I "repaired" a set for another member and was appalled by the quality (lack thereof) at every step of the disassembly. :eek:

2000986s 07-20-2016 03:33 PM

Wow.... well I really appreciate the heads up because I was completely ready to cough up a grand as soon as they came back in stock. Not gonna happen now!!! So you're recommending that I hold off on doing anything until Fred has some kits available? Are they an easy plug and play or is there a ton of extra work to be done?

particlewave 07-20-2016 03:40 PM

Just to clear up any confusion, Fred makes HID projector kits that must be installed into pre-existing headlights (no ready made options).

That said, the completed headlights have no equal in looks or performance. The install isn't exactly easy, but plenty have done their own.

Mine are pictured below. I installed Fred's Vivo series projectors, along with some smaller projectors (for the dual projector look) and some custom made daytime running lights.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...7C2F1B6D_1.jpg


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