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Paseb 08-14-2013 04:53 AM

hoosier r6 size for stock 17in wheels- help
 
Hi guys,

im looking to purchase hoosier r6 tires to put on my stock 17in wheels.

wheels size is 7x17 and 8.5x17

what would you recommend?

225/40/17 ------/225/45/17 in front?
255/45/17 in rear?

thanks for the help

Topless 08-14-2013 05:44 AM

986 or 987 model? It matters. And what type of event are you shoeing up for?

Paseb 08-14-2013 06:58 AM

its a 986 boxster S 2004.

build for DE and PCA race events

im building like a spec boxster, pretty much

Topless 08-14-2013 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paseb (Post 357328)
its a 986 boxster S 2004.

build for DE and PCA race events

im building like a spec boxster, pretty much


225/45/17, 255/40/17 would be standard sizes for that car.

R6 needs about 3 degrees negative camber to get the most out of them and avoid shredding the outer shoulders. Expect to get about 2 days/8 heat cycles useful life from them before they go off and turn into hockey pucks. Then it's time to buy a new set $$$. :)

Paseb 08-14-2013 07:31 AM

damn, that's not lot of life loll

thanks, i will order them

Topless 08-14-2013 07:59 AM

They are quite wonderful for a very short time. I personally would not run "the good stuff" in a DE where lap times are irrelevant. I save quality rubber for Time Trial competition because it doesn't make sense to spend $1400 on fresh rubber unless you are chasing a $10 trophy. :rolleyes:

FYI:

R6 are good for 2 days (annual tire costs $14K)
R1 & V710 are good for 3-4 days
Z214 are good for 4-6 days (annual tire costs $5K)
RA-1s are good for 8-10 days
NT-01s are good for 8-10 days (annual tire costs $1500)

I have dabbled in the others but prefer to run mostly NT-01s.

Jittsl 08-14-2013 11:08 AM

Since it sounds like you want to end up in SPB club racing why not run RA1s (the only tires allowed in the class)?. It will allow you to accustimize yourself as well as learn the setup for your car.

You'll get at least 2 or 3 times the cycles out of them if compared to Hoosiers. If I were DEing on them I would run them till they fall apart - probably 4 or 5 weekends. Racing I get a total of 6 days including 8 races out of a set.

Most of us run a square set up which means 8.5s with 255/40/17s on all corners (with 1/4" spacers on the front for most). Fast laps and wins seem to mostly occur on this setup so hard to argue with success.

SORRY PLEASE IGNORE EVERYTHING ABOVE I JUST REALIZED YOU ARE RUNNING A CAR INELIGABLE FOR SPEC RACING.

bam914 08-14-2013 07:05 PM

Hoosier's last a lot longer if you heat cycle them first. Run them for a short session and then let them sit for a day. Not easy to do unless you have 2 sets for tires.

paul996 09-09-2013 04:22 AM

I have done a bunch of testing with Hoosiers on my SPB (when not racing in class) and grabbed a lap record for TTD at Summit Point doing it. and recorded times well under the standing lap record in TTD/PTD at Watkins Glen (High 2:10 low 2:11 range on used up R6s).

I would not use the R6 255/45/17 at all on a SPB. The gearing is horrible.

The R6 245/40 is what fits best on the 8.5 I have run that on all 4 corners with great results. The car has the same exact balance as with the RA1 255 all around but with higher grip levels and braking. If you are setup to run the RA1 in SPB trim this config is the easiest to switch back and forth to.

The 225/40 R6 is wider than you think but also has a significantly smaller diameter and is lighter to boot. You may find that it works extremely well when used on all four corners giving you a significant gearing advantage. ;)

I would try the 225/40 R6 on all four corners with the 17x7 or with the 17x8.5. I preferred it stretched on the 8.5 as it is extremely crisp on turn in. Your car will sit over 10mm lower on the 225 mounted on the 17x7, even more if stretched on the 8.5.

Best of luck.

-Paul

SBD 09-19-2013 09:39 AM

A bit late to the the party but what Paul says is right on! I have done similar testing with 245r6 and 225/40/17 r6 ( except mine is a base 987) and with your wheel size I would also recommend the 225/40. I get at average of 2.5-3 2 day events with the r6s running at a heavy 3050lbs with driver+hard driving. I usually run street tires for first session as warm up.

Another option is the hankook z214 (best price, good life and excellent grip-underrated tire) and bfg r1. Been seeing good results with the bfg in PTD and their 245 dia is a bit smaller than the 245r6. Tire Life is longer too. I have not run either as no contingency offered. For track and fastest performance I would probably run the bfg r1 or r1s, For most cost effective with close performance I would run the hankooks..
Lastly, with an S, Running a 275/35/17 on 9 square would drop considerable time.


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