I have never waved at a guy in a Porsche or any other car actually.


I let my engine do the talking :)

First i make sure they aren't drinking a latte or talking on their cell.. Then a brief wave or flash of the lights. Sadly, the Boxster is owned by a large number of non-enthusiasts who simply look puzzled why i acknoledge them. 356/914/Aircooled 911s ;) - always get something :)

Hi,

Pretzel Logic...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

MNBoxster would be a terrible farmer cause he doesnt wave... J/K Chances are that Jim has been a farmer and owned a dairy, creamery, chicken coop and slaugther house and would school me on the subject :)

If that makes you feel better about the plain truth right in front of you.


"I own a Porsche Boxster and I am actually an active member on a Porsche Boxster forum, but I am in no way part of ANY COMMUNITY associated w/ Porsche Boxsters."


Hard to deny the facts.

Hi,

I would be a terrible farmer. I'm a City Kid through and through. If I don't have concrete beneath my feet at least once a day, I get a rash...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Hi,

It is hard to deny the facts, if there were any that is.

A couple hours ago you wrote: "...However, you relate to the people here because of the car you have, and for that, you joined in the community..."

So, WTF are you talking about? Like I said: "Pretzel Logic"...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

ok guys....

Does that statement in any way contradict any statements I made AFTERWARDS?


You're right. You don't own a Boxster. You aren't an active member on a Boxster forum.


Forgive me. I have no clue where I got those ideas from.

Personally, I don't blame MNBoxster a bit. I don't wave either. This forum is great, but there's no "Brotherhood of Boxster Owners" out there. Certainly not like with Motorcycles or Harley's in particular. Those, I wave to. Those guys I'll meet and talk to for hours. Porsche owners - not so much.

And, from recent posts - I think I know why....

There's no brotherhood of Boxsters because of the fact certain owners either don't care or don't care to wave back.


If you just don't give a crap, that's cool, but if you like "brotherhoods" as you indicated you do, there's no reason to not be friendly.


How can there ever be a brotherhood if people act like that...just don't get it.

Hi,

God, let it go! You state that you are not a member of a Community ( "...but I am in no way part of ANY COMMUNITY associated w/ Porsche Boxsters." ), but that I am, just because of the car I bought?

Just because DenverPete believes in the Brotherhood of Harley Riders in no way can be construed that he believes (or ought to - not free to do otherwise) in all Brotherhoods.

You concede the concept of Free Will (..."If you just don't give a crap, that's cool"...), but then you infer all sorts of negativity with labels of unfriendly and such if one actually chooses something different than you.

It is not at all unfriendly not to reciprocate the jesture of a stranger, just because they're driving the same car. It that were true, you'd also be unfriendly for each passing Buick you didn't wave to as well.

Many people like and enjoy the solitude and isolation they get when driving in their car, a controlled environment, anonymous to the world around them. It could be equally unfriendly of you to wave at them and violate their private space or quiet time, ever think of that?

I'm not saying not to wave at all, what I am saying is that it is up to the individual with no obligation to act one way or the other. And, if you believe that, you must respect their right and not call them names if they choose the opposite of you. But, I think you're now just arguing for the sake of argument, so respond if you like or not. I'm moving to other threads...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

I'll go out of my way to acknowledge a 987 or Cayman owner because we're relatively few in number and are "brothers" (even though the Cayman is in my mind the "red-headed" stepchild). Any other member of the Porsche family, including the 986 (except for white ones !), I just don't feel that much of a bond with but it's not elitist and shouldn't be taken personally.

Judging from reciprocation I think other 987 owners feel the same way. In fact I'd go as far as to say it's very rare for 987 owners to see each other and not acknowledge each other, conditions permitting, even in the "too cool to wave" state of California.

In a similar situation I'm betting that Z4 owners, which are a pretty tight group, don't flash Z3 owners nearly as much as they do each other.

As a counterpoint SLK owners seem to be uninterested in acknowledging each other, and would never acknowledge owners of the previous generation SLK on account of that car car being such a piece of mierde.

I wave.
I get funny looks.
Could it be because I'm in my minivan? :o

Dude Carlos after spending most of last Saturday morning at the meet with you I can totally picture exactly how you would say that. Thats why I think Jim took it wayyy to kindly....HAHHAHA YOU KILL ME.

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+1 who doesn't have 'time' to wave back (even raise a finger)?

Either:

1. you didnt see them wave: then you really should pay more attention to other traffic in your vicinity. An old driving coach told me that I should notice every detail possible from the team logo on a baseball cap to a scratch on the front spoiler (N.B. if you genuinely didn't notice a wave then obviously this does not apply).

or...
2. you are choosing not to acknowledge: get off your high horse and play the game of life! Who doesn't need more friends? Who wants to disrupt the natural human tendancy to bond? I love it... or is it too much effort to waive a finger (I am sure you would do it if they cut you off :)

here is me trying to wave on the 986 board :insert wave smilie: :confused:

One time I waved at a Box and the contents revealed a stunning blonde whom was highly appreciative of my similar ride, and compliment. Stop car, exchange digits... done deal.

:cheers: to all!

T

This is clearly a misunderstanding. I meant you are not necessarily a part of community. As you said, you've chosen to be a part of it. I never said otherwise, was merely reminding you that you have joined the community despite acting as if you were in no way a part of a community based on your car.

Thanks for establishing that. The point was that if you indeed approve of brotherhoods based on possessions such as bikes, then you are not the type of person who "doesn't give a crap", you obviously give a crap about that type of thing, so why not do it w/ car owners also?

No sir. I never said you can't be unfriendly. Point was, if you are so against a community or "brotherhood", shall we say again, why are you here?

You're making many assumptions.

If they waved to me and I didn't wave back, then yes, but your analogy isn't comparable unless the guy in the Buick was waving to me first.

You can even take that a step further and say, "Why shouldn't all men wave to each other?"

Because people who merely drive cars are plenty, as are males, and being one or the other doesn't necessarily mean you and I share a common interest. It's not specific enough to make that assumption.

On the contrary, if you own a Porsche Boxster and I own a Porsche Boxster, it's likely that our interests are similar and for that I may acknowledge you. It may not be true always, but it's certainly much more likely.


Uh, when you're in public, no, it's not violating anything. If they were in their house and I knocked on their door to bother them, then yes, I can see that. Or for that matter, if I even went up to their car while they were in it.

So ... can waving to your neighbor who is out shoveling snow be construed as unfriendly and in violation of his personal space just because he is on his property?

If that's what you think...


You totally misunderstood me.


I pointed out the contradiction between being against communities based on specific car ownership and being a part of this community based on car ownership.

It's honestly as simple as that. I called you NO NAMES at all, nor did I think any during this entire dispute!!!


Maybe I wasn't clear. But that is exactly what I meant. Nothing more or less.

Did that really happen? Wow.

I hate when you guys go off track with the naaaaaagggggggiiiiiiiiiinnnnnngggggggg
and now i don't remember the question. :D :D

pretty long thread guys but i have to admit i really admire the boxster passion .... quite the one of intensity.....

i'm wondering when i was in college admiring/drooling as i walked by the porsche dealership if any of the boxster girls would've waved back at me??

:) What do you do when you see other Boxes?

Haha, he did, didnt he. I cleverly slipped that one in there at the right moment.... Its all about the timing with the comments to Jim.

When in the box, I usually wave to any other Porsche I see. Rarely do I get a return wave up here in Chicago, but that doesn't bother me one bit...

Now the motorcycle is a different story. I always give the "left hand down" wave to other bikes, and almost always get the same in return. Even though I ride a Harley I wave at all makes and models. A lot of the "die hard" Harley guys will only wave to other Harleys, but since I spent 10 years driving crotch rockets before I became a "Harley Guy" I will acknowledge any bike, regardless of make or model.

Now if it would just warm up so I could drive either one of them I would be a happy man :(

Nick

Agreed. I don't particularly care WHICH bike. I remember stopping someplace and talking bikes with a guy at the bar. The question inevitably came up about what we rode. He sheepishly stated he had some old Yamaha. To which I responded, "Yeah, but DO YOU RIDE"? He smiled and stated, "Every day I can". Those are the guys that get the "low two finger peace sign wave" - not the "I have a $60,000 Bourget, I couldn't tell you what kind of cam I'm running, but gee I look good in all this new Harley gear" riders. Riding an older Harley I'm also particularly sensitive to bikes stuck on the side of the road. Those get the "Thumbs-Up/Thumbs-Down" to see if they need help.

Amen to that. I did manage to get out for a few days last weekend - Gorgeous.

Since we overpsychoanalyze things here...

To me the whole "waiving thing" is more of like an actual physical expression of one another driver who shares the same feeling with me. I do not think he or she does it because they think "oh look we both have porsches cool!!!!", I see it more of the lines "Yeap, I've been there too."

I do not find anything wrong to it, I do not consider him a complete stranger either as that feeling is enough for me to relate. Technically, he is still a stranger but not as much as the person walking next to you when you walk downtown.

I dont usually waive but I might, depending on the mood of course. If they do waive at me and I see it I will waive back.

I dont quite see the need to argue (*cough* MNBoxster and Bavarian Motorist*cough*) about a literally less than one second interaction.

MNBoxster, each one of us here I believe chose the corresponding car just for themselves and not because of a community or a forum. However, just like sports teams when you support one (read Porsche) you are part of it. You might not want to be but you are. Please, if you tell me you dont feel you are, well there is nothing you can do about it because you cannot control that stranger across you that waives at you because he or she thinks that you are part of it. What you can do and you seem to do it is really just not waive. What I am trying to say is that I wouldn't blame others for doing it and especially just because you dont feel this "team-spirit" they should not.

They could give you the same engine and handling and Yugo badge but that won't happen. Afterall, it is missing the Porsche badge.

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I aim my car right at the other Boxster, and play Chicken.

yep, that's why i bought mine. this forum was secondary.

ever since college, my quest began. i even test drove other cars (mustang - too loud, 350 z - my 2nd choice, 330ci bmw - not enough ponies, m3 bmw - drove like a wooly sewing machine?!?!?) but no other accelerator pedal got my blood rushing like the porsche badge.

'nuff said!

If driver looks like this i smile and give her the :p

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...ing_breast.gif

:D :D

I'm sorry Franco, what did you post? :D

this is what I do now after the flashing or waving don't work, when I see other Box coming or in front of me, i point my finger and give them big thumbs up along with a big grin on my face :D

*these are depends on speed rate. of course not in the freeway or highway :)

Hi, Sorry it was late and i was tired and i can't stop looking at it, shame on me. ;)

Franco, you must have really bumpy roads in your area! :)

Haha, see I kind of agree with MN--I didn't buy the Boxster because of the badge, I bought it because I thought it looked sexy and because I can drive it the way I want to drive a car. I certainly don't lament that I didn't buy a 911 or anything like that, and I could care less whether others think I'm gay for driving it. :)

All that said, I like being part of a web community, PCA and all that, but I'm MUCH more interested in "my car" than in "the community", y'know what I mean?

knowing nod
 

I just give them the knowing nod, that's what it's all about, really

If you think their intentions are good, then it's kinda rude to snubb them. Simple as that. It's ok being rude, and it's your life. Not everyone has to be a nice guy.


You don't have to say thank you to the waiter (I don't recommend being a jerk though, they do handle YOUR food), or let merging traffic in either. You can go through life with that attitude... but isn't life so much better if we were all a little friendlier?



I need to hug a tree now and drop some acid. :o

I needed to revive this thread to tell of the first day in my boxster...

I flew to Dallas to pick up the queen jewel. On the last 5 miles of my trip to Mandeville, LA, I saw the fashing lights in my rearview. My initial reaction was "no way I can get pulled over for going 75 in a 70." It was not emergency flashers though, it was the crisp white headlights of a 987 flying up on me. Once they get next to me, they slow, honk, and speed off.

I was thrilled that there was so much acknowledgement in the porsche community.

After having it a few months, I notice that I get waves from anything from saturn convertibles to classic mustangs. Around here, if you are on any non-traffic congested street, people usually wave for no reason anyway.

Boxster are not common this early in the season so when I see another boxster I'll catch up and smile and wave. Not too long along coming home from work nice day to be driving the boxster I saw another boxster with a hard top it caught my eye same color as dj's I decided to catch up and believe me this guy was driving SLOW.....on the highway he must of been going at least 60MPH with a big ass tractor trailer truck on his ass. We were side by side I smiled and waved he looked so stiff behind the wheel.... although he did jerk his head and cracked a smile.
Too all boxster owners loosen up and rock on...........

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When I was a teenager many, many years ago, I drove my fathers 914 from time to time. It was very common that a Porsche acknowledged another Porsche (even if it was 914). So now 35 years later I'm back in my own Porsche and I don't see this acknowledgement happening at all. I've only been at this for a month now and I have seen very few Boxsters. I can see the SUV and sedans not caring but at least a 911, Cayman show give a flash, a wave something. What are others around the country seeing these days

I live in South Florida. I've had my Boxster for four months and have come across a number of other Porsche's, from Boxsters to 911's and Cayman's. No acknowledgments to date. Not even when I've pulled up next to them either in traffic or at a traffic light. It's like they are purposely avoiding to look. Having been part of the Miata culture many years ago where most Miata drivers would waive, honk, flash their headlights, etc., I find this very different.

I rode bikes for the longest time and I would say 60% of bikers acknowledge 'the wave' when passing each other in opposite directions... 30% actually instigate the wave and the other 10% couldn't care less to acknowledge the comradery that's shared amongst the passion of biking.
Isn't that what it's all about... When someone on the street walks by and says 'Hi" most people would respond 'Hi' back (I'm saying most) but I grew up in a small town where if you didnt reply back - you were looked upon as being rude. Now if someone waves to you that obviously shares interest in the same passion as you, wouldnt it be polite to wave back...

I was out for a ride on a back road last week and while sitting at a stop sign waiting to turn right, an elderly couple approached from the left in a silver 986 and they both gave a great big wave as the passed by; As I waved in return, I thought to myself, hey they obviously share the same passion and think the same in return... kind of makes you feel like good about owning one of these great cars :-)
Dont be lazy and lift your arm.... pretend your toasting with a beer in one hand...:cheers: