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Old 02-28-2007, 06:27 PM   #1
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would you guys stay clear of this carfax?

I'm wondering why it changed hands so quickly...
I've had my eye on this one for a couple of weeks...


Owner 1
Purchased: 2000
Type: Personal
Where: Indiana
Est. miles/year: 3,650/yr
Est. length owned: 4/12/00 - 5/23/02
(2 yrs. 1 mo.)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
04/12/2000 Indiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Fort Wayne, IN Registered as
personal vehicle
04/24/2000 14 Indiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Fort Wayne, IN
Title #00170078042 Title issued or updated
First owner reported
11/29/2000 1,750 Indiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Noblesville, IN
Title #00105220065 Title issued or updated
05/23/2002 7,978 Auto Auction Sold at auction
in Eastern Region
Listed as
a dealer vehicle




Owner 2
Purchased: 2002
Where: Ohio
Est. miles/year: 4,745/yr
Est. length owned: 5/30/02 - 7/31/02
(2 months)




Good News - Low mileage! This owner drove an estimated 4,745 miles per year, lower than industry average of 15,000 miles. These vehicles can be a better value.
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
05/30/2002 Ohio
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Dayton, OH
Title #5702392370 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
07/19/2002 Ohio
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
07/31/2002 8,273 Dealer Inventory
Dayton, OH Vehicle offered for sale
07/06/2004 22,000 Ohio
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
08/29/2006 27,892 Auto Auction Sold at auction
in Ohio
Listed as
a fleet vehicle




Owner 3
Purchased: 2006
Type: Lease
Where: Ohio
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 9/15/06 - 9/29/06
(14 days)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
09/15/2006 Ohio
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Cincinnati, OH
Title #8301109391 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Registered as lease vehicle
09/29/2006 27,918 Dealer Inventory
Cincinnati, OH Vehicle offered for sale
11/15/2006 27,921 Auto Auction Sold at auction
in Georgia
Listed as
a dealer vehicle
11/23/2006 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale




Owner 4
Purchased: 2006
Where: Illinois
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 12/20/06 - present
(2 months)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
12/20/2006 Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
North Chicago, IL
Title #X6354782008 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
02/28/2007 Porsche Cars North America No recalls open for repair

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Old 02-28-2007, 09:49 PM   #2
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NOt sure I would be afraid. Many of these cars were leased to begin with.. Multiple owners isn't itself a need to worry. I would be curious about the latest records available, recall history, major/minor services etc.

There is a curious gap (year wise) between owners 2 + 3...

CARFAX is only as good as the information they have been provided.

If the car looks good, passes a PPI and is a fair price, go for it. Then again, there might be "identical" cars with less history. Your call
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The 3 very short term ownership terms are very concerning to me.

I would not buy this car.

Why take the chance when there are TONS of nice used Boxsters out there.

Usually multiple short term ownership like 2 weeks or 2 months means trouble.
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BMX, do listen to BruceLee... he buys and sells Pcars for a living. If he wouldn't touch it to turn around and sell it, I know he wouldn't buy it to put in his own garage.
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I would avoid also....
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BMX, do listen to BruceLee... he buys and sells Pcars for a living. If he wouldn't touch it to turn around and sell it, I know he wouldn't buy it to put in his own garage.

You are SO right about that!
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If it passed a PPI, and was in good shape... why not?


Fact is, there are tons of Boxsters out there. This one looks like it has recently been at a couple dealers... probably sitting on their lots for too long, so they offload it to another dealer. I saw several cars do that when I was searching in December.

Again - passes PPI, go for it.
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well, i would get that car if it was the right color, right interior color, right mileage, right price, and it passes PPI.
but if any of thse are missing iw would take a pass on it since there are soooo many of them out there.
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You can't trust CARFAX! My car had an RMS leak and they missed it completely when they got it from the previous owner. Enough said.
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If it passed a PPI, and was in good shape... why not?


Fact is, there are tons of Boxsters out there. This one looks like it has recently been at a couple dealers... probably sitting on their lots for too long, so they offload it to another dealer. I saw several cars do that when I was searching in December.

Again - passes PPI, go for it.
No, when a dealer passes a car to another dealer, it is not titled each time.

When a car is titled and sold multiple times in a very short interval, it is LIKELY that there is a real issue with the car.

Not a certainty but why take the chance. Moreover, you will have to explain this issue to the buyer when YOU turn around and sell the car.

Why bother, shortage of nice Boxsters? I think not!
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You can't trust CARFAX! My car had an RMS leak and they missed it completely when they got it from the previous owner. Enough said.

Car fax does a very nice job on getting Title info, as they get feeds from the DMVs.

No service does a good job on collecting repair info, so you cannot rely on CF for that.

Damage either.
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i think CF is a good starting point, but it doesnt really bring up a lot, but still, the more info you have the better.
and if that wasnt the case we wouldnt b even talking about it and you would be driving it already (finding things wrong with it probably)

just find another one, theres a bunch of them out there, its even better to broaden your search to out of state to have even more to choose from
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I wouldn't be too concerned

I bought 2 Boxsters ('99 24k and '01S 42k miles). Both were 2 owner cars before me. Roadsters are lifestyle cars, sometimes they fit your lifestyle, sometimes your lifestyle changes. So unless you want to limit yourself to cars that are one owner because they were owned by people whose lifestyle didn't change (or who had so many $ they didn't need to sell when it did) then get a good PPI and go from there. Better a car that was used than a 2k in 6 years creampuff that can have problems from sitting too much.

My 2 Boxsters have averaged somewhere around $10 per month in unscheduled repairs over 4 years. No idea who the first owners were nor why they got rid of them. First car's second owner was replacing the Boxster with a Hummer because she now had 3 kids and didn't use it. Next car's second owner found out it wasn't a great car for a traveling salesperson who had to visit customer's with snow on the ground (and she had no where to store snow tires, etc). Plus she was getting a company car.

Dealers take cars in and those that they don't think they can sell they wholesale at auctions. Some perfectly good cars go that route because the Chevrolet dealer doesn't think he wants to keep the cash tied up in the car until he could sell it and just wants out.

Now could there have been problems with this car ... sure. As with any car.
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I bought 2 Boxsters ('99 24k and '01S 42k miles). Both were 2 owner cars before me. Roadsters are lifestyle cars, sometimes they fit your lifestyle, sometimes your lifestyle changes. So unless you want to limit yourself to cars that are one owner because they were owned by people whose lifestyle didn't change (or who had so many $ they didn't need to sell when it did) then get a good PPI and go from there. Better a car that was used than a 2k in 6 years creampuff that can have problems from sitting too much.

My 2 Boxsters have averaged somewhere around $10 per month in unscheduled repairs over 4 years. No idea who the first owners were nor why they got rid of them. First car's second owner was replacing the Boxster with a Hummer because she now had 3 kids and didn't use it. Next car's second owner found out it wasn't a great car for a traveling salesperson who had to visit customer's with snow on the ground (and she had no where to store snow tires, etc). Plus she was getting a company car.

Dealers take cars in and those that they don't think they can sell they wholesale at auctions. Some perfectly good cars go that route because the Chevrolet dealer doesn't think he wants to keep the cash tied up in the car until he could sell it and just wants out.

Now could there have been problems with this car ... sure. As with any car.
You missed the point. This car had three registered, private owners within 6 months or so. These were registered owners, NOT DEALERS, who DON'T register cars when they buy them.

This NORMALLY spells an issue with the car, not the owners.

NORMALLY!

Why take a chance when there are so many Boxes out there?
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yeah, if 3 people bought them and then sold them very fast, and it takes time to get the papers in mail after registering the car, it probably means that they wanted to get rid of it asap

very fishy

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