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teacher 01-20-2007 05:44 PM

oil leaks oil leaks and everything in between
 
ya know, one tech got mad at me for asking about oil leaks, and he said "a high performance car will have oil leaks" as he told me about 2 oil leaks...so my question is should I run it hard or soft to prevent oil leaks? I really like to open it up and feel the power but not if I have to visit them at Porsche every six months...my question is, how do you maintain your Porsche

blinkwatt 01-20-2007 06:32 PM

From what I've been told about Porsches and what I have experienced through my own Boxster is that these cars like to ran into higher RPMs. No that doesn't mean to redline it every through every gear. Just don't be afraid to open it up on a onramp or to have some fun in the twisties. :cheers:

Paul 01-20-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by teacher
ya know, one tech got mad at me for asking about oil leaks, and he said "a high performance car will have oil leaks" as he told me about 2 oil leaks...so my question is should I run it hard or soft to prevent oil leaks? I really like to open it up and feel the power but not if I have to visit them at Porsche every six months...my question is, how do you maintain your Porsche

Oil leaks are not normal, have them fixed.

Porsches are built in Gemany where a lot of what we call Interstates have no speed limit. This means the cars are run at 6000 rpms or higher for hours.

Baby it, it will punish you, let it enjoy the road.

djomlas 01-20-2007 06:53 PM

amen brother, best thing ive heard today :cheers:

David N. 01-21-2007 05:41 AM

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/8070-keep-her-above-4000rpm-shell-thank-you-every-day.html?highlight=engineer+tach

Most important thread on the whole forum. I think this really should be a sticky somewhere...

-David

Brucelee 01-21-2007 06:42 AM

The RMS oil leak issue is a design flaw issue, not a driving style issue. So, no worries on your driving style, the RMS will either leak or no.

As to the "justification" for driving a Porsche hard, it is clearly not needed or "justified." If you want to hammer your Porsche, you should, it is your car.

However, lying to yourself that it is "good" for your car is just silly. There is no engineering logic that suggests that "harder is better" and that shifting at red line all the time is "good" for your engine. If there is, please cite it.

Here is what I wrote about this earlier, which has yet to be refuted:

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"The interesting thing to me is that Porsche doesn't gear the Tiptronic or the Control Unit to shift at 4k rpm, I wonder why they wouldn't do that? And, the Tip cars generally have a more trouble-free life than the Manuals"

That IS actually pretty interesting.

And BTW- if very high RPM were good for engine life, imagine how long a NASCAR engine should last! Driven JUST BELOW REDLINE for hours on end and with fresh Mobil 1 to boot!

Think of it, a million mile NASCAR engine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So, I am still waiting for the million mile NASCAR engine!

Paul 01-21-2007 07:10 AM

Porsches are designed to run at higher RPMS than American iron and have a long history both on the street and the track of being reliable.

Most Boxsters will still be on the road in 30 years....

Brucelee 01-21-2007 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul
Porsches are designed to run at higher RPMS than American iron and have a long history both on the street and the track of being reliable.

Most Boxsters will still be on the road in 30 years....

One of course, has nothing to do with each other.

Still waiting on this proof.

ohioboxster 01-21-2007 08:16 AM

Brucelee,
I think race motors in cars and even bikes are build with looser tolerances in effort to reduce friction. This is why they need rebuilt after every race, with that statement let me add that I dont believe in the old drive it like you stole it theory.
my .02

MNBoxster 01-21-2007 09:51 AM

Hi,

Yes, Race Engines are built to very loose tolerances...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Brucelee 01-21-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

Yes, Race Engines are built to very loose tolerances...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99


I used to date a girl that had loose tolerances....
But that is another story.

teacher 03-10-2007 03:58 PM

thanks guys
 
you all always give sage advice, thanks

teacher 03-10-2007 04:04 PM

btw
 
I never intended to say that a Boxster should be run at redline at every stoplight, just that the amount of harmful effects was my concern, but I like Brucelee's response "It's either going to leak or not." Besides, I still have my 2 year warranty from Porsche. On this point, many people may think not to take their car to the dealership for repair, which probably accounts for the low reliability rates according to Consumer Reports...yet, given that, newer Boxsters are rated higher, yet I can't get over switching the power windows to the door instead of the console...but that's another thread

Brucelee 03-10-2007 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teacher
ya know, one tech got mad at me for asking about oil leaks, and he said "a high performance car will have oil leaks" as he told me about 2 oil leaks...so my question is should I run it hard or soft to prevent oil leaks? I really like to open it up and feel the power but not if I have to visit them at Porsche every six months...my question is, how do you maintain your Porsche

Your tech is an idiot.

I know of now data that would suggest the oil leaks on the Box are anything other than bad design.

Dirve it how you want!

MNBoxster 03-10-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul
Oil leaks are not normal, have them fixed.

Porsches are built in Gemany where a lot of what we call Interstates have no speed limit. This means the cars are run at 6000 rpms or higher for hours.

Baby it, it will punish you, let it enjoy the road.

Hi,

I could not disagree more. First, the famed Autobahn has only a few stretches where you can now run without limit. Purely 85% of it is now regulated to 75MPH or less.

It isn't about whether you're bouncing off the Rev Limiter, it's about whether you're respecting the machinery. Keep it in the sweet spot and it'll last forever - that's not the same thing as punishing it or running consistently at 6k RPM or above...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Paul 03-11-2007 05:47 AM

The last I checked there was still about 4000 of 6800 miles of Autobahns without speed limits. I will admit the data may be dated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn

http://www.german-way.com/autobahn.html

Is anyone from Germany on this board?


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