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Escott1622 03-24-2021 07:48 AM

New owner soft top replacement
 
Just got a 2001 Boxster and it needs a new soft top the actual top itself seems to be fine but the window is shot 100%. What would you guys advise. Not sure if I want plastic or glass. Or the acoustic material or the regular. I planned on buying from autotopsdirect since they have good prices. I plan on installing it myself to abound 700 in labor I was quoted. Stay fast material with plastic window is 389, with acoustic is 469. Black stayfast with glass is 585 and with acoustic material is 729$

Rob175 03-24-2021 08:21 AM

I strongly suggest the money you spend on labor with an EXPERIENCE shop who has done a Boxster top before .... (others will disagree) is IMHO money well spent! So really think about it, because top replacement can be a real difficult job for a first timer!

Having said that.....IF you decide to have a shop install it I would also suggest you discuss it with that shop to get their recommendations as to the brand of top they prefer and the reasons they prefer it. The plus of a glass back window has the defroster wires (you have a wired switch already in your panel) and it will never deteriorate like plastic.......the negative is that the glass window could be smaller than the plastic window in most cases.

I had an experienced automotive upholstery shop do mine. They ordered the top from the vendor they had prior experience with. My 98' now has new a standard (not acoustic) black top with glass and a defroster that works great. the job was done in ONE DAY. In the Chicago area has typically high prices....I paid $1,400 total and that was 2 yrs ago.

It's my summer sunny day driver so 90% of the time the top is folded down.

ike84 03-24-2021 08:43 AM

The diy documents on this project are horrifying. Read them before you decide, its definitely one of the more difficult projects out there.

There have been descriptions of only replacing the platic window - one guy detailed his diy approach. I would try to find a boat canvas or auto upholstery shop and ask them about replacing it though, because even just the window is labor intensive.

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Escott1622 03-24-2021 09:04 AM

First time convertible owner but I’ve worked on a lot of cars before so I’m reasonably handy. I imagine any shop who wants to do the window will have to take the whole top off anyway so it wouldn’t make sense to not replace the top. I drive the car rain or shine so budget fixes I’ll try to avoid. I’ll get some more quotes

mtb50 03-24-2021 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Escott1622 (Post 632388)
First time convertible owner but I’ve worked on a lot of cars before so I’m reasonably handy. I imagine any shop who wants to do the window will have to take the whole top off anyway so it wouldn’t make sense to not replace the top. I drive the car rain or shine so budget fixes I’ll try to avoid. I’ll get some more quotes

I replaced mine all day job with the help of roaring tiger garage (youtube) very helpful. Watch this and then decide. I went with plastic window because of price.

Jgkram 03-24-2021 10:30 AM

I too struggled with the dilemma of replacing myself or having a shop replace it. Ultimately I chose to replace it myself. In all honesty I didn't find it to be too difficult at all. If you are patient and take your time it can be done. Search my posts and you can find a photo of my finished work. It installed with no wrinkles and fit very nice and tight. It has been on since this past October and I am very pleased. I have a 2001 base and ordered the glass window top with acoustic material from autotops direct. If I remember the cost was around $580 and the instructions were well written and thorough. Those along with a couple of youtube videos was all I referenced. Good luck with your decision whichever way you decide. Ping me if you have specific questions and you think I can help.

Escott1622 03-24-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jgkram (Post 632393)
I too struggled with the dilemma of replacing myself or having a shop replace it. Ultimately I chose to replace it myself. In all honesty I didn't find it to be too difficult at all. If you are patient and take your time it can be done. Search my posts and you can find a photo of my finished work. It installed with no wrinkles and fit very nice and tight. It has been on since this past October and I am very pleased. I have a 2001 base and ordered the glass window top with acoustic material from autotops direct. If I remember the cost was around $580 and the instructions were well written and thorough. Those along with a couple of youtube videos was all I referenced. Good luck with your decision whichever way you decide. Ping me if you have specific questions and you think I can help.

How long did it take you and are you glad you went with the glass? Did you notice any actual differences with the acoustic ?

Jgkram 03-24-2021 11:35 AM

I decided to do this over a nice weekend last October. I do not have a garage so I had to wait for some nice weather. I started taking the old top off when I got home from work on Friday and finished the install Sunday afternoon. I worked at a steady pace and definitely took time to double check myself each step of the way. I am pleased with the glass top although I have not tried to service the engine. I hear it does not fold up as far as the plastic window so it limits the area available. Be aware the rear view is quite a bit reduced however it's really nice to be able to see through crystal clear glass. I do believe the acoustic material also helped with the noise level although that is really subjective. The biggest issues I had were; fitting some side tabs that are blind (see the Roaring Tigers youtube), getting some glue on the top (but it cleaned off easily) and replacing a plastic retaining strip that holds my headliner (the original broke and i had to wait on a replacement part). I took tons of photos during my teardown as reference notes and I highly recommend doing that if you choose to do this yourself. Several folks have commented on the job and asked me to replace their tops (which I've declined). Again good luck whatever you decide.

Homeoboxter 03-24-2021 11:52 AM

I`m replacying the vinyl window in mine just now. It`s doable and cheap, but I wouldn`t recommend it unless you have plenty of time to do the stitching, it takes forever..

flouese 03-25-2021 02:24 AM

I just replaced my top for the 2nd time. It took a day and a number of sailor words. I used the Mike Focke (sp?) site and the 101 Projects book to do the install. Last top lasted only 4 years until the window just fell apart. My only issue is that my most recent top does not have the material attached that an elastic piece is attached that helps pull the top into the channel when shutting it. Look for that piece before you start the install. I'm still trying to figure how to retrofit that piece...

KevinH1990 03-25-2021 03:21 AM

See if you can find someone parting out an 03 or 04 Boxster. If the top is in good shape, and you can buy it at a good price swapping the entire top and frame is a fairly easy job. The glass in the 03/04 tops is larger than the glass in the after market tops due to the design of the frame.

rfuerst911sc 03-25-2021 03:23 AM

You might want to consider looking for a complete OEM top/frame assembly from a 2003 - 2004 Boxster . The 03/04 Boxster came with a 4 bow frame vs 3 bow on earlier models and it has a glass window . So you get OEM quality/fit with a glass window .

I found an aftermarket glass window top already mounted to the 3 bow frame , a straight bolt in for my 02 S . I like the top and the visibility of the glass window but engine access is slightly decreased . My understanding is the factory 4 bow folds better which provides better engine access .

Finding a clean 4 bow may take some time but I believe worth it in a perfect world . Next best option a new top on your 3 bow frame with glass window .

Jgkram 03-25-2021 04:57 AM

I would agree with rfuerst911sc. I looked for a 4 bow frame at a reasonable price for many months and couldn't find one. The boxster is my DD so i had to eventually move off the dime and replace the top. Duck tape is even harder to see through than old plastic! Anyway, if you can find a 4 bow frame go with that. Otherwise the glass window in the 3 bow is a really nice option. Just be careful in your selection of tops and buy from a reputable maker. Good reviews for both GAAH and Sierra.

sharper410 03-25-2021 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by flouese (Post 632423)
I just replaced my top for the 2nd time. It took a day and a number of sailor words. I used the Mike Focke (sp?) site and the 101 Projects book to do the install. Last top lasted only 4 years until the window just fell apart. My only issue is that my most recent top does not have the material attached that an elastic piece is attached that helps pull the top into the channel when shutting it. Look for that piece before you start the install. I'm still trying to figure how to retrofit that piece...

I'm in the same boat in that my new top is missing the fabric tab for the elastic. I saw a video where someone sewed a piece in but I need to know where about along the top it goes.

Escott1622 03-25-2021 06:45 AM

I am also searching for complete tops off part out vehicles that way it’s 30 minutes and a few bolts whole thing comes out

flouese 03-26-2021 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sharper410 (Post 632433)
I'm in the same boat in that my new top is missing the fabric tab for the elastic. I saw a video where someone sewed a piece in but I need to know where about along the top it goes.

I've hit up the forum up several times on this subject. Waiting for someone to post a picture of where this mystery piece of material connects to on both ends. Several videos show the repair, but none show what to do if the material is not thee. I spent a few hours yesterday attaching material to several locations and failed each time.

ike84 03-26-2021 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Escott1622 (Post 632434)
I am also searching for complete tops off part out vehicles that way it’s 30 minutes and a few bolts whole thing comes out

Good luck with this, I agree that it's the best way to go but I have been looking for about a year now and have not seen one come up for sale anywhere. If you happen to find two though please let me know ;)

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papasmurf 03-26-2021 08:53 AM

I've replaced my convertible top twice now
 
(first time was factory top with plastic window cracking...second time my GAHH rear window shattered) and it is not a fun job. Both tops I have put on have had the glass rear window but the first one was a nicer fabric than the one I have now. I would get some double sided banner tape from a sign shop as the recommended double sided 3M tape did nothing for me as it would not stick to the fabric when you are installing the edge of the top in the channel for the rear. Take your time, it is possible as many have said to DIY the job but figure it taking most of full day at minimum.

Escott1622 03-26-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ike84 (Post 632484)
Good luck with this, I agree that it's the best way to go but I have been looking for about a year now and have not seen one come up for sale anywhere. If you happen to find two though please let me know ;)

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Where are you located at? In I’m PA I’ve found several

dghii 03-26-2021 06:19 PM

My .02.

Worst case is you remove your old top (easy!) and takecar to shop if you loose your nerve. Remember, your car will still run, even with no top!


This is a DYI job if you are so inclined. You are literally using double sided tape and a screw driver to do the job. Not trying to over simplify but the Box top is light years ahead of old tops requiring rivets (drilling out an inserting new) and trimming to get a tight fit. You can do it!

As for 03-04 tops and frames....certainly the easiest and fastest way to go but remember, some of those tops may be original, hence 15 or 16 years old.

I had great luck with Autotopsdirect products. I've done a couple 350Z's and a couple of Boxsters and had no issue with the product. BTW, I know that 4 tops doesn't make me a pro....that's my point! Take your time. organize and bag parts as you remove.
You've got this!

ike84 03-26-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Escott1622 (Post 632494)
Where are you located at? In I’m PA I’ve found several

I'm in southern KY, near the TN border. P-cars don't ever seem to wind up in junkyards here (lots more chevys than german coupes unfortunately). And I haven't had any luck inline. Where did you find them? My brother lives in SW PA near the WV border, I wonder if we could work something out.

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Escott1622 03-26-2021 09:38 PM

I ended up buying a glass window top not faded great great condition for 400$, I have other things that need attention on the car I’d rather not spend my time going nuts with trying to put a top cover on my old frame

Escott1622 03-26-2021 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ike84 (Post 632516)
I'm in southern KY, near the TN border. P-cars don't ever seem to wind up in junkyards here (lots more chevys than german coupes unfortunately). And I haven't had any luck inline. Where did you find them? My brother lives in SW PA near the WV border, I wonder if we could work something out.

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Use the website Car-Part.com.com type in the car and select “roof” as the car part and just look for a good one near you, most have pictures so you can tell the condition of them it took me alittle to find a great glass one (I’d suggest that since they tend to be better condition) it has a live chat feature where you can message about condition and updated pictures

Rob175 03-27-2021 05:39 AM

Do you love your car? Do you plan on keeping it for years to come? IF "yes" I'll repeat and say again.....spend the $$$ and have a good quality shop do it in one day and amortize the money you've spent over the future years you'll be keeping the car. Easy peezy! OR...waste a lot of time searching for an old top and frame and spend your money on that, but you'll still wind up with an "old top" just like you have now!...lol.

Escott1622 03-27-2021 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob175 (Post 632537)
Do you love your car? Do you plan on keeping it for years to come? IF "yes" I'll repeat and say again.....spend the $$$ and have a good quality shop do it in one day and amortize the money you've spent over the future years you'll be keeping the car. Easy peezy! OR...waste a lot of time searching for an old top and frame and spend your money on that, but you'll still wind up with an "old top" just like you have now!...lol.

Yeah I paid like 4K for my car, needed 4 new tires right away, looks to have been repainted. For my situation yes a used cheap top is just fine but I would suggest what you said to those with nicer examples

Rob175 03-27-2021 07:23 AM

Understood......mine is a 98' in near "mint" condition with only 85,000 miles. It's the base model 5 speed Boxster and my "summer sunny day driver". It's book value is less than $7M but to me it's a priceless source of enjoyment and I take pride in maintaining it in beautiful shape ....... unfortunately, nothing lasts forever but until then.....
Good luck with yours and have fun!

ike84 03-28-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Escott1622 (Post 632523)
Use the website Car-Part.com.com type in the car and select “roof” as the car part and just look for a good one near you, most have pictures so you can tell the condition of them it took me alittle to find a great glass one (I’d suggest that since they tend to be better condition) it has a live chat feature where you can message about condition and updated pictures

Thanks escott, I appreciate the advice!


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gwinterhalter 06-06-2024 09:16 AM

Soft Top Suppliers
 
Would like to hear from those that replaced their top themselves what was their source/supplier for the top. Thanks all.

elav 06-06-2024 12:38 PM

For those that are considering swapping at top - it is true that a few fasteners on either side hold it in, but also be aware that with at least the 3-bow tops, there is a micro-switch that needs to be disconnected too.

If you are planning on replacing a 3-bow top with the newer 4-bow top, I believe the microswitch is in a different place - so you will need to do some re-wiring. I also believe the convertible top transmissions are also different.

Toppy986 06-06-2024 07:30 PM

Micro switch changed in 2000 to the top transmission, re-wiring only required if dealing with a 97-99 car, along with replacing the top transmissions and relay, as was the case for my conversation. A 4 bow top is plug and play on 2000-2004.

LoneWolfGal 06-08-2024 04:30 PM

Having a glass rear window with a defroster would be nice, but in my opinion they have one major drawback — the glass windows (at least, every one I've seen) are appreciably smaller than the plastic window. It changes the appearance of the car, and not for the better. In my opinion, as I said.


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