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kyporsche 05-22-2020 12:33 PM

aos failure now car cranks once then nothing
 
today after the car wash my 98 boxster gives me a fit. tons of white smoke out the back and loss of power. i know that it has never been over heated and just recently serviced so im really leaning towards aos failure. now the car will only crank about a 1/4 turn then nothing almost like the starter is stuck? trying to figure out what i should look into first thanks in advanced for all the help.

Starter986 05-22-2020 01:24 PM

I don't believe the wash had anything to do with it... unless you were spraying copious amount of water into the intake. My first guess is that your AOS went kaput. The first thing I would do is remove the tope AOS hose... give it an examination... see if it has a LOT of oil in it. A little is ok... a lot... I'd then pull the throttle body and see if it isn't flooded with oil. That may explain the no-start issue. Worst case sceanrio... you sucked a bunch of oil into the engine... and that'll require correction.

Do some searches on "white smoke 986 Boxster"... "AOS failure 986 Boxster"... you'll find of lots of information.

Keep us posted. You'll get through the hiccup. :cheers:

BFeller 05-22-2020 02:31 PM

Be careful about turning over a motor thar could have cylinders full of liquids. If that is a conrn, remove the spark plugs and turn the motor over manually.

Gilles 05-22-2020 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFeller (Post 617511)
Be careful about turning over a motor thar could have cylinders full of liquids. If that is a conrn, remove the spark plugs and turn the motor over manually.

After removing the spark plugs, you can safely crank the engine using the starter.

kyporsche 05-23-2020 05:48 AM

[QUOTE=Starter986;617504]I don't believe the wash had anything to do with it... unless you were spraying copious amount of water into the intake. My first guess is that your AOS went kaput. The first thing I would do is remove the tope AOS hose... give it an examination... see if it has a LOT of oil in it. A little is ok... a lot... I'd then pull the throttle body and see if it isn't flooded with oil. That may explain the no-start issue. Worst case sceanrio... you sucked a bunch of oil into the engine... and that'll require correction.

Do some searches on "white smoke 986 Boxster"... "AOS failure 986 Boxster"... you'll find of lots of information.

so the mechanic at my dealership got the car to start and now it sounds like the lifters are also toast, he quickly shut it down and we are going to move forward with examining the plugs and changing the aos

kyporsche 05-23-2020 07:25 AM

here are some pictures after i removed the top aos hose. clearly a milky mixture standing in the lines


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Starter986 05-23-2020 11:27 AM

[QUOTE=kyporsche;617551]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starter986 (Post 617504)
I don't believe the wash had anything to do with it... unless you were spraying copious amount of water into the intake. My first guess is that your AOS went kaput. The first thing I would do is remove the tope AOS hose... give it an examination... see if it has a LOT of oil in it. A little is ok... a lot... I'd then pull the throttle body and see if it isn't flooded with oil. That may explain the no-start issue. Worst case sceanrio... you sucked a bunch of oil into the engine... and that'll require correction.

Do some searches on "white smoke 986 Boxster"... "AOS failure 986 Boxster"... you'll find of lots of information.

so the mechanic at my dealership got the car to start and now it sounds like the lifters are also toast, he quickly shut it down and we are going to move forward with examining the plugs and changing the aos


Man... I hope it's something simple like the AOS. Lifters toast? Keep us posted... we like closure.

Best wishes. Se you around. :cheers:

traveno 05-23-2020 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilles (Post 617515)
After removing the spark plugs, you can safely crank the engine using the starter.

While true, I'd recommend turning it over my hand first. Unless you want liquids shooting out the spark plug holes and spraying onto stuff you probably don't want it on ;)

BYprodriver 05-24-2020 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilles (Post 617515)
After removing the spark plugs, you can safely crank the engine using the starter.

And you can inspect the spark plugs at the same time for oil etc.

thstone 05-24-2020 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyporsche (Post 617551)
so the mechanic at my dealership got the car to start and now it sounds like the lifters are also toast, he quickly shut it down and we are going to move forward with examining the plugs and changing the aos

Wow. I'd really like to know a lot more about what's going on...

911monty 05-24-2020 11:41 AM

I'd certainly recommend at minimum a compression test before I changed the AOS.

maytag 05-24-2020 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyporsche (Post 617551)

so the mechanic at my dealership got the car to start and now it sounds like the lifters are also toast, he quickly shut it down and we are going to move forward with examining the plugs and changing the aos

Lifter failure?
That's odd, to say the least. Sometimes "a lifter" will fail. But for multiple lifters to fail simultaneously? That's odd. Really odd.

So in my mind I'm considering all of the scenarios I can think of that would result in that diagnosis.
If multiple lifters are bad, this suggests an oil pressure problem. So what might cause white smoke AND oil pressure issues? I'm struggling to come up with something plausible.

What I think IS unfortunately plausible, is that your mechanic suspects lifter failure because he did a compression check. However, the same symptoms could point to broken-bits, which is more consistent with the rest of your symptoms. ie: aos fails, motor ingests liquid oil and hydra-locks. This creates the "will only turn a 1/4 turn", assumption, and that 1/4 turn was enough to break hard parts.

I dunno.... I'm reaching here.

I sure want to know more about what he finds.

It's POSSIBLE that the white smoke and now 1/4 turn only are unrelated. ?

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drakewylde 08-29-2023 12:25 PM

I'm having the same issue with my car. What did they ever find out from this post?

Starter986 08-29-2023 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakewylde (Post 655824)
I'm having the same issue with my car. What did they ever find out from this post?

I know I found out that the OP hasn't shared new information for more than 3 years.

/S


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