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obthomas 07-28-2019 03:15 PM

vibration when accelerating
 
My 03 Boxster S with 97000 miles and all new wheel bearings and suspension vibrates when accelerating. No CEL, engine runs as good as ever. After suspension replacement I got a vibration from 3rd gear to sixth gear when accelerating. If I back off the power and coast the vibration stops. If I maintain speed in any gear the vibration stops. It only vibrates when adding power and up around 3000 rpm. Both drive axles are new this last year. The transmission is smooth as silk. Last week I replaced the front motor mount with a new one. The old front motor mount seemed to be just as good as the new one. Anyway, it did not help. To me this is a drive line problem and all I can think of is to replace the transmission mounts and if that doesn't help then the dual mass flywheel. The clutch on this car feels like new. I simply do not know much about how a dual mass flywheel affects the car if it is failed or failing. I could use some advice or approval of my plan for where to go next. Thanks in advance


O.B. Thomas

1PorscheBoxster986 07-28-2019 05:14 PM

Did you do a wheel alignment and wheel balance after changing the suspension?

obthomas 07-29-2019 05:51 AM

Yes. I watched the alignment as it was done. My DIY equipment also shows that it is spot on.

KRAM36 07-29-2019 09:10 AM

Do you have a Durametric tool?

DoninDel 07-29-2019 11:29 AM

When did problem start?
After changing something, or changes are trying to cure the problem?

Qingdao 07-29-2019 03:13 PM

I know you wrote that you already replaced them, and I know its a pita to change them out... But CV axles are like the only thing I could think of.


I've never heard of a motor mount causing of vibration under accel. If the mount is bad under accel it's settled in and not shaking.

Also, never had a wheel balance issue caused by acceleration only. Those things worsen with speed. Same with a wheel bearing.


The cutch/flywheel might be, but I doubt it. Just because that would give the car a shake under an engine rev and not just acceleration.


Completely different engine and water pump design, but RX7 engines will shake on accel if the water pump is bad. They shake badly enough to make me think the drive shaft was out of balance.

obthomas 07-29-2019 04:37 PM

Some responses, yes I have a durametric tool and I am not afraid to use it. The vibration came after I refreshed the suspension earlier this month. I replaced the new right axle about a year ago so I put a few miles on it with no vibration. I put the new left axle on about two months ago so I had a few vibration free miles on it. Today I Jacked up the car there is literally no movement in the inner joints and none in the outer. Tested the new wheel bearings 3 and 9 oclock and 12 and 6 oclock and no movement whatsoever. Nevertheless, I too have come to the conclusion that it is probably one of the axles. My sense is that my problem will not be solved until I buy a new axle and start changing them out. Thanks everyone for the help.

The Radium King 07-29-2019 04:55 PM

where do you feel the vibration - seat or steering? rear suspension will squat a bit when loaded under accel - anything aftermarket in your suspension refresh? no-oem geometries (alignment, ride height, wheel offset)?

obthomas 07-29-2019 06:30 PM

Vibration is in the seat, firewall, car. The steering is solid and does not vibrate. Suspension parts are all OEM except struts are B6 not B4.
When I get to third gear about 50 MPH and give it gas I get what feels like an engine miss at 3000 rpm and goes away at 4000 rpm. I can do the same thing in 4th, 5th, and 6th. Of course the car is going faster in the higher gears. I have convinced myself its not an engine miss. No CEL.

Qingdao 07-29-2019 07:38 PM

So it dies off at different RPM ranges... now we have a clue.

I still think it could be CV axles, but if you are feeling it under rpm changes then its probably in the engine somewhere.

If it was me I'd find a quiet stretch of highway. Take the belt off and get it up to 80mph. See if your issues are gone.
^^just because that's easier than doing anything CV axle related.


I'd be willing to bet the reason you don't feel it in 1st through 4th is cause its such a low gearing.

KRAM36 07-30-2019 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by obthomas (Post 600154)
Vibration is in the seat, firewall, car. The steering is solid and does not vibrate. Suspension parts are all OEM except struts are B6 not B4.
When I get to third gear about 50 MPH and give it gas I get what feels like an engine miss at 3000 rpm and goes away at 4000 rpm. I can do the same thing in 4th, 5th, and 6th. Of course the car is going faster in the higher gears. I have convinced myself its not an engine miss. No CEL.

Hook up the Durametric and take the car for a drive and check for cylinder misfires.

The Radium King 07-30-2019 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KRAM36 (Post 600161)
Hook up the Durametric and take the car for a drive and check for cylinder misfires.

this - misfires don't always cel. if it feels like an engine miss then it may be a miss. also, try clutch in vs out of gear and load the engine (get it hot before hand, then go to wide open throttle) and see if you get the behavior without the transmission engaged.


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