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flynavyj 10-26-2018 06:32 AM

Shift Cable Gear Linkage
 
Hey all,

I was driving the other day and downshifted rolling towards a stop. When I went to put the car in gear, i felt that the shifter was completely limp side to side. It was able to engage 3rd and 4th, and after limping it home, I researched and saw that my problem was likely a gear linkage at the transmission.

Jacked the car up, and found the linkage had popped off the ball, and would pop on/off with relative ease. To get the car moving I zip tied the units together, but obviously know that's a temporary patch. Wondering what's the best solution for fixing this permanently.

The one that popped off was one of the cables from the shifter in the cabin. In the attached picture, it's the bottom orangish/brown arrow, and is also shown off the ball. The base does have a hex design, so I'd suspect it can be removed...but haven't put a wrench on it yet to test it, as I don't want to snap it off and break more than is currently worn.

I appreciate the help!

https://www.pelicanparts.com/techart...large/Pic3.jpg

maytag 10-26-2018 06:39 AM

Welcome to the Porsche experience! :-)

This is a very common problem with these cars. The cable end wears, and Pops off. Frequently, when you look inside it, you'll see that the nylon insert is cracked.

The fix is to replace the cable ends, but it is my understanding that they are not available other than buying the entire cable assembly.
The good news? They're not terribly expensive.

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flynavyj 10-26-2018 07:08 AM

exactly what I was wondering! Thanks!

paulofto 10-26-2018 11:50 AM

I had the same issue 2 years ago. I replaced the rather week stock clips that hold the cables on with these

https://tunersmall.com/product/trs-shift-cable-security-clips-986-boxster/

Work like a charm.

flynavyj 08-15-2019 04:18 PM

Paul,

I ended up buying the clips as my fix as well. It was easy to retrofit the clip on the linkage that popped off, however popping the other ends off proved difficult. Any suggestions on removing the other cable end links from the transmission?

piper6909 08-15-2019 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulofto (Post 581720)
I had the same issue 2 years ago. I replaced the rather week stock clips that hold the cables on with these

https://tunersmall.com/product/trs-shift-cable-security-clips-986-boxster/

Work like a charm.

So they're selling slotted u-clips. The slotted side slides behind the ball, and the main body wraps around the cable end to keep it in place. Cotter pins keep the clip from slipping off.

And they want $105 for 3 of these? Are you f'in kidding me?

paulofto 08-16-2019 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 601027)
Paul,

I ended up buying the clips as my fix as well. It was easy to retrofit the clip on the linkage that popped off, however popping the other ends off proved difficult. Any suggestions on removing the other cable end links from the transmission?

Basically you just bend back the tabs holding the clips on and pry them off.

paulofto 08-16-2019 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 601033)
So they're selling slotted u-clips. The slotted side slides behind the ball, and the main body wraps around the cable end to keep it in place. Cotter pins keep the clip from slipping off.

And they want $105 for 3 of these? Are you f'in kidding me?

If you can find a cheaper solution, do it. In my estimation it is the best $105 bucks (135 CDN) I've spent on the car. Not being stranded in teh middle of nowhere is good piece of mind.

PS.... the package has 4 IIRC.

piper6909 08-16-2019 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by paulofto (Post 601054)
If you can find a cheaper solution, do it. In my estimation it is the best $105 bucks (135 CDN) I've spent on the car. Not being stranded in teh middle of nowhere is good piece of mind.

PS.... the package has 4 IIRC.

I don't doubt they work. The site shows 3 clips, but even if it's 4, that's over $26 apiece for some bent steel that someone could probably replicate with some simple hand tools.

piper6909 08-16-2019 06:43 AM

Or see if one of these bushing assortments fit. For less than $6

https://www.ebay.com/p/Manual-Trans-Shift-Bushing-Kit-Shifter-Bushing-Kit-URO-Parts-171-798-211/191563357?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5t7Qjs6H5AIVkluGCh35Mg YnEAkYCiABEgKhpfD_BwE&thm=1000&rlsatarget=pla-740524795146&abcId=1140976&mkgroupid=77338445224&i temid=191563357_1000&norover=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&targetid=740524795146&merchantid=6296724&poi=&mk evt=1&mktype=pla&googleloc=9005917&device=c&mkcid= 2&chn=ps&campaignid=1907933686

san rensho 08-16-2019 07:23 AM

And I beleive zip ties also work to hold the ball and socket together.

paulofto 08-16-2019 09:10 AM

Then that would be cheaper. Go at it.

paulofto 08-16-2019 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by san rensho (Post 601059)
And I beleive zip ties also work to hold the ball and socket together.

There is a lot of heat back there with the exhaust so close so I'm wondering if plastic zip ties may just soften and come off. Anyway, despite the expense so long ago it really doesn't matter.

flynavyj 08-16-2019 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulofto (Post 601053)
Basically you just bend back the tabs holding the clips on and pry them off.

Thanks. I had bent the 3 tabs back on one of the units, but the dang thing didn't pop off. Will try it again soon, apparently i just need to pry harder.

flynavyj 08-16-2019 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulofto (Post 601072)
There is a lot of heat back there with the exhaust so close so I'm wondering if plastic zip ties may just soften and come off. Anyway, despite the expense so long ago it really doesn't matter.

Zip Ties will work to get you out of being stranded. I had put two on there as a temp band-aid and they held ok for quite a while...when the cable finally let go again, I went down and looked and the zipties were no where to be found...so, at some point, they definitely worked their way off, or snapped.

flynavyj 08-16-2019 10:23 AM

I agree that the clips are NOT cheap. But $100 wasn't too bad, considering the price of replacement cables. Sadly the cable ends aren't servicable or repairable, so the only fix appeared to be complete replacement of the cables. Considering the car had 55,000 miles on it, I imagine the wear is more due to age than typical wear and tear. Still, I wouldn't want to be driving around w/ new shift cables and find myself stranded if one popped off the ball of the transmission.

New linkages for the transmission were very expensive (in the $500 range) and new cables were several hundred plus a fair amount of work on the installation. But yes, you're talking a piece of stainless and cotter pins.

piper6909 08-16-2019 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 601081)
I agree that the clips are NOT cheap. But $100 wasn't too bad, considering the price of replacement cables. Sadly the cable ends aren't servicable or repairable, so the only fix appeared to be complete replacement of the cables. Considering the car had 55,000 miles on it, I imagine the wear is more due to age than typical wear and tear. Still, I wouldn't want to be driving around w/ new shift cables and find myself stranded if one popped off the ball of the transmission.

New linkages for the transmission were very expensive (in the $500 range) and new cables were several hundred plus a fair amount of work on the installation. But yes, you're talking a piece of stainless and cotter pins.

I don't have a manual transmission, but from the pics it seems to me like the ends are serviceable, if you can find a matching nylon bushing.

I'd try prying apart the the three tabs that hold the piece that keeps the nylon bushing in place. Take out the worn bushing and go to the parts store, or gamble 6 bucks on the ebay link I posted earlier and see if any of those bushings would fit. Once you find one that fits, push it in, place the clip over it and bend the tabs in again to lock it.

Failing that, I'd make my own clips similar to those they're selling for $105.

And if that fails, as a last resort, I'd begrudgingly get the ones for $105. ;)

patssle 08-18-2019 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulofto (Post 601072)
There is a lot of heat back there with the exhaust so close so I'm wondering if plastic zip ties may just soften and come off. Anyway, despite the expense so long ago it really doesn't matter.

I have some regular cheap plastic zip ties on my 914 e-brake cables and they are inches away from the exhaust. They have held up great after several years. Very surprising!

piper6909 08-18-2019 12:57 PM

I find it hard to believe that those nylon bushings can't be replaced.

If someone on here who sells used parts is willing to send me a couple ends and maybe a ball link I'm willing to hunt down some nylon bushings to see if I can come up with a solution. I'd post the solution on here so everyone can benefit.

PM me if you have some bad ends you'd like to ship.


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