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flouese 09-03-2018 07:42 AM

Ever so close
 
I am finally at the stage where I am plugging in the electricals but have a potential problem.
The cats I removed from my 99, 2.5L had 2 O2 sensors, the replacement cats I installed have NO spots o put in the O2 sensors. I think I figured out the forward one by removing the plug on the manifold and putting one set of O2 sensors there, now what do I do with the aft ones?

This is the original cat I removed http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1535989124.jpg


This is the replacement cat which also came off a 99 2.5L http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1535989138.jpg

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

particlewave 09-03-2018 09:38 AM

Get the correct catalytic converters or have O2 bungs welded onto the set you have. :confused:

thstone 09-03-2018 10:01 AM

Removed post.

particlewave 09-03-2018 10:39 AM

There are 2 sets on 97-99 cars for a total of 4 O2 sensors; the 2 pre-cat O2 sensors which are used for fuel ratio and 2 post O2 sensors which monitor catalytic converter health.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...7E5076CAA2.jpg

thstone 09-03-2018 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 578578)
I'm not sure where you got this, but it is wrong.

Ok, I'll have to check my info. In the meantime, I removed my post. Thanks.

BFeller 09-03-2018 02:13 PM

When troubleshooting an O2 issue, I think there was information that ROW early model cars only had 2 O2 sensors.

flouese 09-03-2018 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 578578)
There are 2 sets on 97-99 cars for a total of 4 O2 sensors; the 2 pre-cat O2 sensors which are used for fuel ratio and 2 post O2 sensors which monitor catalytic converter health.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...7E5076CAA2.jpg

So what your'e say is that CATs I bought were for MY 2000-2004? My only options are to (1) remove and replace Cats with correct ones or (2) have an insert welded to the existing ones so I can install O2 sensors?

The cats I have in now does not have the spot (#4 on the 2000-2004 diagram) to insert an O2 sensor. Do I have some sort of mutant catalytic converter???

Is there any "Hack to bypass the aft O2 sensor? Will the car start and run with the aft O2 sensors not attached to anything?

All I want is for this project to be over with...

particlewave 09-03-2018 03:28 PM

All cats should have position 4/2 bungs (position 4 on 2000-2004, position 2 on 97-99).
As long as you have pre-cat sensors installed, the car will run fine, but you'll get a CEL for failing cats since the DME won't see a signal for the post cat sensors and will think they have failed.

You need the pre-cat sensors for fuel ratio.

I don't know if there are any post cat O2 emulators on the market.

flouese 09-03-2018 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 578603)
All cats should have position 4/2 bungs (position 4 on 2000-2004, position 2 on 97-99).
As long as you have pre-cat sensors installed, the car will run fine, but you'll get a CEL for failing cats since the DME won't see a signal for the post cat sensors and will think they have failed.

You need the pre-cat sensors for fuel ratio.

Thanks fr the response. I feel better now. Hopefully I can find someone to weld new "bungs" in the existing cats.

911monty 09-03-2018 04:22 PM

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