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356Guy 08-16-2018 08:47 PM

Anybody solved lifter tick at cold idle
 
It seems that my Boxster has a lifter tick when cold at idle. I believe this started after storage this winter. One lifter was hammering pretty good for awhile after initial start-up. I'll probably try something other than 0W40 next oil change but I'm wondering if anybody has ever had this problem and solved it.

Brian in Tucson 08-17-2018 08:00 AM

15w 40 synthetic oil. And a pint of Marvel Mystery Oil. YMMV, but it works for me.

356Guy 08-17-2018 10:30 AM

I might try the Marvel. I bought a lot of Mobil 0W40 on sale so it would be nice not to have to switch oils.

ekam 08-17-2018 11:12 AM

Amsoil 5W40.

356Guy 08-17-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ekam (Post 577610)
Amsoil 5W40.

Did that fix the issue or is that just what you run? I'm not sure I want to pony up for the Amsoil stuff :)

Jgkram 08-17-2018 01:54 PM

I had developed a lifter tic several years ago. It started one winter and continued into the summer. It was especially bothersome during the colder months. I finally read a post by Jake Raby saying that he had used MMO and saved "many an engine" so don't knock it. Anyway, did my research and discovered MMO a petroleum based naptha distillate that is essentially a solvent. Obviously, I was hesitant to put it in my engine but decided to try it as the tic was getting worse. I always change my oil at 3,000 miles and use Motul 8100 x-cess 5w-40. So, I drained about 1 quart of oil, put 4 oz in a full gas tank and the remainder in the oil. I ran it for 500 miles and then did an oil change. Amazing, but there was NO ticking sound after the oil change. I repeat this process about every third or fourth oil change and have had no problems at all with ticking reoccurring.

maytag 08-17-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgkram (Post 577631)
I had developed a lifter tic several years ago. It started one winter and continued into the summer. It was especially bothersome during the colder months. I finally read a post by Jake Raby saying that he had used MMO and saved "many an engine" so don't knock it. Anyway, did my research and discovered MMO a petroleum based naptha distillate that is essentially a solvent. Obviously, I was hesitant to put it in my engine but decided to try it as the tic was getting worse. I always change my oil at 3,000 miles and use Motul 8100 x-cess 5w-40. So, I drained about 1 quart of oil, put 4 oz in a full gas tank and the remainder in the oil. I ran it for 500 miles and then did an oil change. Amazing, but there was NO ticking sound after the oil change. I repeat this process about every third or fourth oil change and have had no problems at all with ticking reoccurring.

I've been using this (or other variations of it to include ATF or diesel fuel) for decades to solve issues, including sticky lifters. It's a great "last ditch" effort, haha. It's not the first thing I do.... because I'm very aware of the risks. But I've had much success.

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ekam 08-18-2018 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 356Guy (Post 577621)
Did that fix the issue or is that just what you run? I'm not sure I want to pony up for the Amsoil stuff :)

Got my 09 used that was ticking pretty loud, did an oil change with Amsoil and the sound went away.

10/10ths 08-18-2018 06:38 AM

Lifter tick...
 
...is very common on many engines.

Assuming you don't have a REAL problem, lifter tick always comes down to some sort of oil issue. Either the lifter does not "pump up" with oil because it doesn't like the oil formula or viscosity, or the oil passage inside the lifter is gummed up with varnish or has an actual small bit of debris blocking the passage.

The above solutions are very viable.

Marvel Mystery Oil has been around this long because it actually does work in many of these cases.

FWIW, I use the Driven oil Jake Raby recommends and change it every 3,000 miles and I have had no lifter issues.

Good Luck.

seningen 08-18-2018 07:56 AM

Could be some dirt in the lifter -- I had one Boxster that did that and used Seafoam.
Didn't think of MMO or I would have tried that.

Went away after about 2-3min of idle, dumped the oil, and it never came back.

Mike

356Guy 08-18-2018 07:57 AM

Is it a requirement to dump the oil after?

10/10ths 08-18-2018 08:13 AM

Sea Foam...
 
....also does wonders for clogged fuel injectors and carbs.

I have “fixed” many a “broken” motorcycle with Sea Foam.

356Guy 08-18-2018 10:53 AM

I found some MMO which seems to be rare around here. Canadian Tire just got it. It wasn't even on the shelf yet. The instructions said to use the whole bottle based on the Boxster sump capacity but I just dumped in half a container. I let it idle and the ticking went away after 5 minutes. The test will be when I start it cold the next time.

356Guy 08-20-2018 05:38 AM

Well no luck. The cold start ticking is still there.

Racer Boy 08-20-2018 07:17 AM

Try putting the recommended amount of MMO in, and give it some miles to work.

jdraupp 08-20-2018 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 356Guy (Post 577769)
Well no luck. The cold start ticking is still there.

You also self admitted you only used half the amount the bottle said to. Add the other half and see how that does for a bit?

Jgkram 08-20-2018 08:48 AM

Using 1/2 the bottle is like taking 1/2 your prescription medication. Remember this is a lubricant/solvent so it needs time to work. I ran mine for about 500 miles or so after adding and then did the oil change. I'm not saying this will fix your issue but it did take care of mine. I also remember using this stuff wwaaayyyy back when I was a teenager and had an MGB. It worked wonders for the carbs and other moving parts to keep them clean. Good luck...

356Guy 08-20-2018 11:13 AM

Guilty although I probably dumped closer to 2/3rd of it in. With all the years of reading posts about fretting over what oil to use it seems like dumping 12 oz of "mystery oil" (ok petroleum distillates and solvents) into an engine is risky business :eek:
I put on 5-600 km/week so if it doesn't work over the next week or 2 I'll just dump the oil and replace the lifter.

Jgkram 08-22-2018 07:48 AM

I hear you. But I have used it in the past with good results and no discernable damage to the engines. Also, when I read Jake's response to similar questions, that kind of sealed the deal for me.

I feel your pain. It's a very frustrating issue and I wish you luck whatever route you take.

thstone 08-22-2018 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 356Guy (Post 577789)
... and replace the lifter.

Unfortunately this is the only way to permanently fix it if the solvents aren't helping.


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