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perspectivism 05-03-2017 05:30 PM

kindly help! obd error code on 986 2.5L Porsche: toothed belt out of position
 
Hi

I recently got my engine back for a repair. My mechanic has not been very honest or open to me about what's being done.

The engine came back better (suffered from a blown gasket with milkshare sputtering out of radiator previously)

Few days ago I hear a flapping sound. The flapping sound got louder and I sought a second opinion..

Obd codes from another mechanic shows this:

The second mechanic says it could be the engine. But he is not sure which part.

Can someone help?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cf0597fc45.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1c5a4ec99d.jpg

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kjc2050 05-04-2017 04:53 AM

Bank 1 camshaft out of timing. You need a good mechanic.

That986 05-04-2017 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kjc2050 (Post 536007)
Bank 1 camshaft out of timing. You need a good mechanic.

Exactly that. Looks like he's not been paying attention.

perspectivism 05-04-2017 06:20 AM

Could this explain why my fuel consumption is in the dumps? I was burning fuel like mad.

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perspectivism 05-04-2017 06:24 AM

And could this remotely have anything to do with the hydraulic lifters? I spoke to my mechanic today, he kept saying the fluttering sound could be due to hydraulic lifters.

Can the toothed belt out of position error be related to the hydraulic lifters?

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perspectivism 05-04-2017 06:30 AM

And what is a toothed belt? Timing chain? Some kinda pulley?

My engine is misfiring?

Thanks for all input. I'm at a loss here. The mechanic still hasn't seen my car yet.

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paulofto 05-04-2017 06:51 AM

Your mechanic hasn't been honest? Time for a new mechanic. Find someone with knowledge specific to M96/M97 engines. Using the wrong mechanic or one who 'thinks' they know whet they are doing but don't can be fatal to your engine.

That986 05-04-2017 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by perspectivism (Post 536015)
And what is a toothed belt? Timing chain? Some kinda pulley?

My engine is misfiring?

Thanks for all input. I'm at a loss here. The mechanic still hasn't seen my car yet.

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You don't have a toothed belt, you have timing chains. It sounds like in the rebuild the mechanic hasn't lined them up properly and the timing is slightly out which will in turn make the valves open at the wrong time.

Because of that you will get horrible mpg and if you keep driving you could do a lot more damage depending on when in the cycle it's igniting. If it's pre-igniting before the piston fully compresses that's real bad and you will end up burning things, if it's post-igniting then it's not so bad and you'll just feel a loss of power as most of the mixture has been sucked away down the exhaust valve and you'll just end up killing your cats. Ideally an engine should ignite the mix as the piston has just started it's downwards travel and has compressed the mix to make the nice big bang we know and love. Anything either side of that (especially if it ignites on the way up) is bad news.

If your car did have a toothed belt it would be as easy as popping the belt off, lining everything up and putting it back on. But seeing as you don't i would be getting that mechanic out to tow that car back to his garage and sort it out.

perspectivism 05-04-2017 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by That986 (Post 536020)
You don't have a toothed belt, you have timing chains. It sounds like in the rebuild the mechanic hasn't lined them up properly and the timing is slightly out which will in turn make the valves open at the wrong time.

Because of that you will get horrible mpg and if you keep driving you could do a lot more damage depending on when in the cycle it's igniting. If it's pre-igniting before the piston fully compresses that's real bad and you will end up burning things, if it's post-igniting then it's not so bad and you'll just feel a loss of power as most of the mixture has been sucked away down the exhaust valve and you'll just end up killing your cats. Ideally an engine should ignite the mix as the piston has just started it's downwards travel and has compressed the mix to make the nice big bang we know and love. Anything either side of that (especially if it ignites on the way up) is bad news.

If your car did have a toothed belt it would be as easy as popping the belt off, lining everything up and putting it back on. But seeing as you don't i would be getting that mechanic out to tow that car back to his garage and sort it out.

Thank you for the extremely helpful post. May I kindly ask for your opinion on the awful fluttering sound emanating from my engine?

I've uploaded a short video on it. Does that sound like what you have described?

Much appreciated.

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perspectivism 05-04-2017 07:15 AM

This is the video. Thank uhttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/590b45966c1bc/videocompress-023-20170503_192353.mp4


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That986 05-04-2017 07:31 AM

Without sounding horrible the noise could be a few things (haven't listened to it) and engines shouldn't be making any untoward noises.

Just get it back to the mechanic, slap him hard and ask him to sort it out.

Dave80GTSi 05-04-2017 07:34 AM

You have a number of good choices as far as Porsche service in Singapore.

The information that you have been posting here does not give any of us the comfort level to believe that they are competent, and you yourself seem to be floundering.

Specifically, which shop has been telling you what you have told us, and where exactly are you located?


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