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Boxtaboy 12-01-2016 06:55 AM

Deteriorating rubber seal/gasket on headlamp?
 
Anyone have a good solution to the rubber seal around the headlamp that turns to goo? One of my litronic headlamp's seal is deteriorating (the black rubber seal that fits between the headlamp and fender), and it looks like Porsche doesn't sell a replacement gasket/seal for the 986 headlamps. I searched and noticed some people replacing with foam tape, but wanted a more OEM look (eg. rubber gasket material). Anyone find a good solution? Thanks.

Mark_T 12-02-2016 02:15 PM

I got a new pair of seals from a wrecker a few years ago. I don't remember exactly how much I paid but they weren't cheap.

Boxtaboy 12-02-2016 02:47 PM

It's cool that you found a replacement. I just think that it's ridiculous that there isn't a better solution.

PaulE 12-02-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxtaboy (Post 518391)
It's cool that you found a replacement. I just think that it's ridiculous that there isn't a better solution.

If mine go, I will start googling for places like these to see what I can find that might work -

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=extruded+rubber+seals

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Hopefully I'll find a place that will sell only 10 feet!

Boxtaboy 12-02-2016 03:07 PM

Those look promising. I like that they are rubber. I saw the post about the foam tape being used, but not crazy about it not being rounded like the OEM seal, as well as the foam absorbing water when it rains or being washed. I only have one small area that is affected and don't need to replace yet, but will soon. Thanks for those links. May have to try it!

particlewave 12-02-2016 11:47 PM

Find a cheap used set of headlights on eBay with good gaskets, swap the good gaskets with yours, then re-sell the headlights. If you do it right, your final cost for good used gaskets will be free-$50. ;)

Boxtaboy 12-03-2016 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 518432)
Find a cheap used set of headlights on eBay with good gaskets, swap the good gaskets with yours, then re-sell the headlights. If you do it right, your final cost for good used gaskets will be free-$50. ;)

Yeah, this is a crapshoot though, as you can't really tell from eBay photos if the whole seal is not deteriorating. My seal below in pics...you can't really tell where the seal is mushy cause it's still all intact, for example. Also, most of those headlights are just as old or older than mine, so they're bound to turn to mush too probably. There's got to be a cheaper solution to this problem. I'm thinking even if there was a product like a rubber O-ring (but not formed as an O) would work, as it is rounded and rubber which looks like the factory seal.

http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/a...psvvl1b8ey.jpg

PaulE 12-03-2016 04:47 AM

With the Boxster turning 20 and being celebrated at the next Werks reunion , I also think
it's conceivable that Porsche Classic or some entrepreneur will approach Hella or one of the other manufacturers of these lights to sell just the rubber gaskets, but they won't be cheap!

Boxtaboy 12-03-2016 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulE (Post 518440)
With the Boxster turning 20 and being celebrated at the next Werks reunion , I also think
it's conceivable that Porsche Classic or some entrepreneur will approach Hella or one of the other manufacturers of these lights to sell just the rubber gaskets, but they won't be cheap!

I hope so. It's frustrating that Porsche sells the gasket replacement for the Cayenne and 981 Boxster, but not ours which need them the most since they're the oldest.

particlewave 12-03-2016 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxtaboy (Post 518438)
Yeah, this is a crapshoot though, as you can't really tell from eBay photos if the whole seal is not deteriorating. My seal below in pics...you can't really tell where the seal is mushy cause it's still all intact, for example. Also, most of those headlights are just as old or older than mine, so they're bound to turn to mush too probably.

Just ask the seller for more photos and a close inspection. I've done it a dozen times for both myself and other forum members ;)
It's not age that kills them, it's how you take care of them. Mine look and feel brand new, but they're not. I've seen literally hundreds of these headlights and I think the 2 biggest killers are sun exposure and car wax (cars with yellowed headlights from UV exposure always have the worst seals).

A set I worked on had non-OEM rubber seals that were a very good fit and close to original, but the owner didn't know where they came from. So, there is a better solution than foam rubber tape out there, but it may take some searching.

Boxtaboy 12-03-2016 08:25 AM

Thanks. I'm just not too keen on taking the chance on a used headlamp that might have had the good seal taken off and then replaced with a mushy one to then resell to me. ;) I'm thinking this might work..even tho it looks like foam?...
Steele Rubber Products - Peel-N-Stick Small Hollow Half Round with Lip

particlewave 12-03-2016 08:50 AM

Nice jab. That's why you ask for a detailed description and photos. :rolleyes:
I always take closeup pictures and describe seal condition if I sell a set.

Another issue is that the seal width varies. The headlight to fender gap is wider at the top and more narrow above the fog light and outside edge.

Good luck.

Boxtaboy 12-03-2016 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 518455)
Nice jab. That's why you ask for a detailed description and photos. :rolleyes:
I always take closeup pictures and describe seal condition if I sell a set.

Another issue is that the seal width varies. The headlight to fender gap is wider at the top and more narrow above the fog light and outside edge.

Good luck.

Lol, all in good fun, and no offense meant. ;) I also wrote Hella who made these original headlamps, and asked them if they could sell replacement gaskets. I know the answer will be no, but figured I'd try anyway. Will post answer if given.

JayG 02-15-2017 06:41 AM

Bump

Anyone have a good solution?

JimmyBad 04-15-2019 12:17 PM

Bump! Solution here?

JBauer 04-15-2019 05:38 PM

This ��

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/74783-replacement-headlight-seal-gasket.html

10/10ths 04-15-2019 06:12 PM

This stuff.....
 
.....will prevent them from deteriorating.

It can’t help you once they are toast, but if yours are still good, it will make them last longer.

https://www.autogeek.net/1z-einszett-rubber-care-stick.html?productid=1z-einszett-rubber-care-stick&channelid=FROOG&utm_source=CSEs&utm_medium=G oogleProductSearch&utm_campaign=CSE&utm_campaign=1 504990722&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_con tent=287205172222&utm_term=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI39bo q8TT4QIVrfbjBx3CeQuvEAQYAiABEgKqtPD_BwE

JayG 04-15-2019 07:09 PM

Here is another one
https://www.steelerubber.com/extrusion-kit-sre1077-5ft-83-0102-73

Starter986 04-16-2019 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 593164)

50% less...

https://www.mcmaster.com/1129a992

JBauer 04-16-2019 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Starter986 (Post 593178)

That's where I got mine. Works great.

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