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paulofto 07-27-2016 04:25 AM

Porsche 718 Cayman and Boxster To Get N/A Flat-Six 3.8-Litre In GT4 Spec
 
So the the NA flat 6 will still be available in two 718 variants

Porsche 718 Cayman and Boxster To Get N/A Flat-Six 3.8-Litre In GT4 Spec

imon_2nd 07-27-2016 11:19 AM

Yay!

:cheers:

Porsche9 07-27-2016 11:43 AM

Glad to hear that. After having test driven a 718 Boxster S I am not that excited about the turbo 4.

Perfectlap 07-28-2016 07:10 AM

How absolutely ironic...


"Six-cylinder turbocharged engine wouldn't fit," he said. "Naturally-aspirated we have today, and most likely we will offer versions in the future, like GT4 for example. We keep this line of naturally-aspirated engines in the GT3 and GT3 RS and so on, as well as GT4, we will develop it."

Pdwight 07-28-2016 06:14 PM

What is the round lens looking thing in the front center grill ?

thstone 07-28-2016 07:53 PM

Best news that I've heard from Porsche in quite awhile! :cheers:

Smallblock454 07-29-2016 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 504787)
What is the round lens looking thing in the front center grill ?

Hi,

this is a radar system to measure the distance to the car in front of you. There will be also an option to read speed signs and show the actual speed limit in the instrument cluster display.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1469788466.jpg

Regards, Markus

ekam 07-29-2016 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche9 (Post 504703)
Glad to hear that. After having test driven a 718 Boxster S I am not that excited about the turbo 4.

You are not alone.

Eight of the Worst Sounding Performance Cars You Can Buy Today

Nine8Six 07-29-2016 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smallblock454 (Post 504806)
Hi,

this is a radar system to measure the distance to the car in front of you. There will be also an option to read speed signs and show the actual speed limit in the instrument cluster display.

Regards, Markus

Some thing tells me that who ever (automaker) will offer a vehicle with 2 sets of keys, four wheels, brakes and a gas pedal hard wired to an air/fuel mix intake, WILL take over that Playstation-like market in no time.

Would be nice to consider (automakers, if you are reading these). At least when a world power decide to shut down the transportation network of another, my little car will still work :D

Disaster 07-29-2016 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekam (Post 504814)

IMHO, None of the Boxsters had a good exhaust note until the 981. Early Boxsters made their distinct sound through the intake.

1997 986

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS-ziueYQkA

2009 987.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUgNifW2tzM

2013 981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH4eyg6Cy8M

BIGJake111 07-29-2016 06:08 AM

They really should make a technology delete in modern cars. Cameras are ugly, big screens in the dash are ugly. Cars like the s class have removed all analog gauges thankfully the new panamera kept the tach, but everything else is digital. Aesthetically speaking I like a digital speedo at most, some air conditioning, and a simple radio with a way to play music from ones phone.

BIGJake111 07-29-2016 06:11 AM

As for sounds. Someone I trust well said the new 718 sounds better to him then the 981 from outside of the car especially at idle and Reving it up. (Also that the S is noticeably better sounding.) He says it's by no means a flat 6 sound but it sounds good. Meanwhile, he said it's really lacking on sound from the interior.

clickman 07-29-2016 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekam (Post 504814)

What's the dial at 1:04?

Personally I can't stand the farting at engine unload.

tomonomics 07-29-2016 09:08 AM

The dial selects Sport Mode, Sport Plus, and a customizable setting. There's also a 20-second 'Sport Response' feature that supposedly spools up the turbos so they are ready to go for maximum performance/passing/etc. I had the opportunity to drive both (PDK) versions of the new 718 this week on a closed auto-x track, and actually preferred the base Boxster with the base exhaust. (I believe what you see in the video is the base with a performance exhaust, which adds no performance, but instead lots of farts and burbles).

I only drove the cars with the top and windows up, so unfortunately didn't get to hear much of the intake, but the interior sounds were good. From the outside, the base Box w/base exhaust was clearly the best sounding car. We had about three hours of exposure to the cars, including about 40 min of total seat time. The opinion of more than a few attendees was the same as mine regarding the exhaust note, and we were pleasantly surprised.

I was impressed with the subtle new changes to the body, and the performance and interior was obviously greatly improved over my base 2003 986. On the courses we ran, the S model didn't really offer anything above the base. I think the turbo makes the base a much more capable car with the low end torque. I walked away with a changed mind, and would consider leasing a base model 718 at a reasonable price (or purchasing one a few years from now)....I was impressed.

Of course, they let us drive the new 911 S as well. Wow. Kinda ruined it....lol...that car is amazing (I have previously driven a 991 Targa 4S). Then again, with a few options it's $120,000 and twice the price of a base Box. The Macan GTS impressed as well.

I will say, however, as I left the event in my 986, the intake and engine sounds of our flat sixes are still sweet. After a few miles, I didn't miss the extra 75 horsepower and newer feel of the 718. The original Boxster still brings a smile. Though I will be looking at upgrading my steering wheel to something a little thicker. Those new steering wheals are nice.

Smallblock454 07-29-2016 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickman (Post 504841)
What's the dial at 1:04?

Personally I can't stand the farting at engine unload.

That is the mode selector dial. You can choose different driving programs, which affects different parameters.

Regards, Markus

Nine8Six 07-29-2016 09:13 AM

4-cyl I'm impressed (although never seen/tried the car myself)
 
That farting.burping is not going to happen here for sure... I'd be so embarrassed to own something that fakes somehow broken-engine/ims-like noises. Geez. Hopefully the thing shuts-up on the normal mode, could work until aftermarket exhaust manufacturers "fix" it.

On a in-car note, its not all that bad. This car is certainly rocket fast for a little 4-cyl. I think I'd settle for that. Could be fun, for when you feel street-suicidal loll

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Porsche9 07-29-2016 11:09 AM

Having driven the 718S it is fast but very clinically. My 02 S is much more invoking and fun just at lower speeds.

Fred, alot of the sound you are hearing in that video is pumped in by a speaker, which when you are driving the car is noticeably.

My wife drove the base and liked how that sounded and it sounds like others like it better then the S. I'm might have to go back to my dealer dealer and give it a try. For the driving I do it's still has plenty of power and is faster then any 986.

Perfectlap 07-29-2016 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disaster (Post 504825)
IMHO, None of the Boxsters had a good exhaust note until the 981. Early Boxsters made their distinct sound through the intake.

who keeps the box stock!!

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Nine8Six 07-29-2016 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche9 (Post 504859)
Having driven the 718S it is fast but very clinically. My 02 S is much more invoking and fun just at lower speeds.

Fred, alot of the sound you are hearing in that video is pumped in by a speaker, which when you are driving the car is noticeably.

My wife drove the base and liked how that sounded and it sounds like others like it better then the S. I'm might have to go back to my dealer dealer and give it a try. For the driving I do it's still has plenty of power and is faster then any 986.

Know what you mean

I've heard from the guys that P is at the track in mid Aug and plan on bringing a few of those 718. That's the idea apparently. Other gossips says we won't be able to try them but can ride as passenger.

For street-use I can't think of needing anything faster than that myself lolll. The base price certainly seems appealing brand new but in my case (financially) it won't happen before min 2~3 years for sure anyway :/

Need to see that little red roadster in person, possibly the only chance I'll have to sit in one also. Really (really) like that car. Roadster fan in me says that chances that I buy one 'used' in just a few years is roughly 100% certain

Roger1965 07-29-2016 09:02 PM

In the promo shots, they have 718km on the odometer and the clock reads 07:18. Cute.

nobrakes 07-30-2016 06:11 AM

Now all they need to do is make more of them with manual transmissions.:cool:

Porsche9 07-30-2016 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobrakes (Post 504931)
Now all they need to do is make more of them with manual transmissions.:cool:

Last weekend at a PCA event they had 5 for us to test drive and not one manual. :mad:

Nine8Six 07-30-2016 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche9 (Post 504941)
Last weekend at a PCA event they had 5 for us to test drive and not one manual. :mad:

I understand where you are coming from and share the same opinion of a true driver car (Porsche 911R fan here)

Please take one paddle shiffter equipped car for a weekend and go furious with it. I promise you'll appreciate how precise, fail-proof and convenient it is. You can also poke your nose in moving traffic when ppl are staring at ya (auto mode!)

Seriously, and with all the paddles that I've tried (got them myself), I didn't find any down sides that could impact my decision in buying the same. The thing just works, prevents gear wear and bye bye to clutch change$ ;)

Worth a try, for a weekend, dearest drivers!

BRAN 07-30-2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 504946)
I understand where you are coming from and share the same opinion of a true driver car (Porsche 911R fan here)

Please take one paddle shiffter equipped car for a weekend and go furious with it. I promise you'll appreciate how precise, fail-proof and convenient it is. You can also poke your nose in moving traffic when ppl are staring at ya (auto mode!)

Seriously, and with all the paddles that I've tried (got them myself), I didn't find any down sides that could impact my decision in buying the same. The thing just works, prevents gear wear and bye bye to clutch change$ ;)

Worth a try, for a weekend, dearest drivers!

I must admit, I almost became a paddle shifter fan while driving a Porsche Macan S recently, super precise, fast and fun...but I noticed one "little" down side: Shifting while turning (steering wheel angle + 60°) feels odd, almost "dangerous". But it might just be me.

tomonomics 07-30-2016 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 504959)
Shifting while turning (steering wheel angle + 60°) feels odd, almost "dangerous". But it might just be me.

I drove a PDK Cayman GTS (previous model) on a track, and one of the things that the instructors made us try was just that...shifting in a hard turn. The rev-matching and smoothness of the shifts never upset the balance of the car. But I agree...it felt odd when you downshift in a turn and have the tach suddenly hit 5K.

I still prefer a standard third pedal and shifter, but the PDK is really good. I'd consider it in a 911 if it was going to be a DD or get a lot of use. But for a roadster, it's gotta be old school.

Smallblock454 07-30-2016 11:43 AM

Today i was driving my Box open.

A 718 non S passed by with moderate acceleration. What an awful exhaust note. Bah. Not for me.

Think i will only be interested in GT4 cars. But to be honest, i'm not a fan of too much electronics. So maybe a 997 GT3 – if i could afford it. Meanwhile i'm very happy with my 986S.

And there is one car that catched my attention lately. It's a NG TC. This is a UK kit car that was inspired by the Aston Martin Ulster.

http://www.ngownersclub.org.uk/images/IMG_0413.jpg

Regards, Markus

Nine8Six 07-30-2016 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 504959)
I must admit, I almost became a paddle shifter fan while driving a Porsche Macan S recently, super precise, fast and fun...but I noticed one "little" down side: Shifting while turning (steering wheel angle + 60°) feels odd, almost "dangerous". But it might just be me.

Note the "full weekend" proposal ;) Make no mistake, it needs skills and getting used too. Very effective when you get the feel of it. When I first paddled a gearbox, I was mixing the up with downshift, loosing them when hard turning, etc. Took a few hours to get used too for sure. Like anything else I guess, practice makes perfect.

In a real life scenario, chances that you'll need to up/downshift in a tight corner is pretty rare. Not a pro driver but when at the track (2 wheels), I know what gear I'll be in before hitting the apex. Same for my corner exit. Disturbing balance (momentum) when cornering is pretty suicidal if you ask me. Guessing its similar if not the same for cars.


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