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rickhuizinga 04-05-2006 09:41 PM

Dension iPod Adapter out today!!!
 
Check out the link for the Dension Gateway 500 MOST iPod adapter!!!!

http://support.dension.com/dension/icelinkgateway500.php

Uncle Bob 04-05-2006 09:55 PM

It's not available in the US??

rickhuizinga 04-05-2006 09:57 PM

Check out the densionusa.com home page. It has a countdown clock for introduction of a new unknown product (which happens to be listed on their European website)

mach schnell 04-05-2006 10:26 PM

will this work if you have the Bose system?

Rail26 04-06-2006 07:53 AM

Woohooo! About time!

EPIQTodd 04-06-2006 08:21 AM

FYI, Denison is known for announcing a product's availability well before it is launched - sometimes years. They've been promising Ipod adapters for Porsches adn BMW's in the USA for many months. Back in September there was a November date for launch, then November rolls around, and it's January. January comes along, and launch date for sure this time is March. March comes and goes and it moves to May, etc.

eslai 04-06-2006 09:11 AM

Hmm. That doesn't look like it's going to be very affordable. That's a lot of hardware. Wonder if it'll be at a reasonable price point or not.

Rail26 04-08-2006 05:41 AM

Wow, after further inspection...that IS a lot of equipment. I bet it will cost as much as the damn upgraded stereo. I shouldn't criticize the cuisine before it is served, however I have a feeling.

oranje 04-09-2006 02:28 PM

Not that bad
 
doesn't look like that much stuff. The little aluminum box looks to be about 4"x1"x2" judging by the size of the USB port on it. All you'd need to connect for the ipod is power, MOST fiber and the iPod connector. Then it's up to you to install any or none of the clips.

Looks like the electronics in the unit also allow you to play MP3s from any USB hard disk device or even a USB thumb drive, which is kind of neat!

Considering I paid muchos for the car, I don't really care how much this kit costs... I'm tired of listening to the same CD over and over, or to annoying DJ's in the morning... :)

Porsche is listed as launching end of June (no year specified, but let's assume it's 2006 this time!)

eslai 04-09-2006 10:47 PM

You do know you can change the CD, right? :) I paid big bucks for the car, I'm paying big bucks to have Reus Systems redo the stereo, but I'm not sure I can stomach paying an exorbitant amount of money for this. If it comes out under $400, maybe.

edit: Did I really write "absorbitant"!? Man I must've been tired.

orthopod 04-09-2006 11:35 PM

MOST Icelink looks to cost around US $ 399
 
I saw something like that on their site
Sigh.... There goes $400
I mean c'mon, how hard would it have been to put an AUX jack on the back(or front!) of the fricken Becker unit.

986Jim 04-10-2006 03:27 AM

Why on earth would anybody bother to buy that? After all that then you have to buy an Ipod then have that stupid looking thing sitting around in your car. Personally I hate ipods and all MP3 players they are stupid looking and are for teenagers on buses..

If you really want an MP3 player for your car why not get a Phatbox. It's plug and play, comes with any size drive you want 20gb - 140gb and hooks to and works directly from the factory stereo.

You create directories for your music based on album, or mixed music etc.. I have one in my Jetta and will be getting one shortly for the Box. I have about 40 albums and say 5-6 mixed music directories and it's all controled from the stock stereo. Hell the thing even talk to you, it's amazing. It has a hard drive cartridge that you plug into a cradle through USB and you use their software to load music, create directories etc. I have one directory alone with about 500 songs in it so random lasts for ever.

http://www.phatnoise.com/products/digitalmediaplayers/pn_phatbox.php?selectedMake=Porsche

$699 for 40gb plug and play. It bolts right into your cd-changer slot.

Rail26 04-10-2006 05:34 AM

Whoa Jimbo,

What you say is the truth Kemosabe...however, we 987 have some kind of digital stereo thingy that won't take those kind of add-ons. The 987 owners are waiting for some kind of digital go between to be able to hook those up (somebody can explain the MOST problem much better than I can.) Right now, we can't hook up anything.

My entire music collection is on my IPOD. I love it...I can take my collection on the plane, the car, when I deploy and I can even listen to it in the hotel room through the FM transmitter. The last thing I want to do is buy another gadget. Although I do have my eye on those Garmin GPS running watches....

Uncle Bob 04-10-2006 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 986Jim
Why on earth would anybody bother to buy that? After all that then you have to buy an Ipod then have that stupid looking thing sitting around in your car. Personally I hate ipods and all MP3 players they are stupid looking and are for teenagers on buses..

If you really want an MP3 player for your car why not get a Phatbox. It's plug and play, comes with any size drive you want 20gb - 140gb and hooks to and works directly from the factory stereo.

You create directories for your music based on album, or mixed music etc.. I have one in my Jetta and will be getting one shortly for the Box. I have about 40 albums and say 5-6 mixed music directories and it's all controled from the stock stereo. Hell the thing even talk to you, it's amazing. It has a hard drive cartridge that you plug into a cradle through USB and you use their software to load music, create directories etc. I have one directory alone with about 500 songs in it so random lasts for ever.

http://www.phatnoise.com/products/digitalmediaplayers/pn_phatbox.php?selectedMake=Porsche

$699 for 40gb plug and play. It bolts right into your cd-changer slot.

Once again, Newer models are out of luck:
Quote:

Please Note
This edition is not compatible with PCM (navigation system) or with 2003 and newer Porsches.
Nice idea, however!!
Quote:

Originally Posted by eslai
eslai You do know you can change the CD, right? I paid big bucks for the car, I'm paying big bucks to have Reus Systems redo the stereo, but I'm not sure I can stomach paying an absorbitant amount of money for this. If it comes out under $400, maybe.

Got any info on Reus Systems?? I'm interested!

eslai 04-10-2006 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Bob
Got any info on Reus Systems?? I'm interested!

I went up a couple months back and listened to the 997 Cab they were working on. It was magic.

What I'm getting done is what they call an "enhancement". They'll add an amp and a sub in the passenger footwell (this is a bit of a bummer--it's going to crowd that space by about four inches by the center console).

The amp works in conjunction with the stock amp, tweaking the output levels. I think he may add some resistors to the dash tweeters as well. The custom subwoofer, and its placement are key.

It doesn't sound like a lot of work, but it's seriously awesome. I only heard the 997 Cab in a setup that was about 75% complete and I was already sold. Imaging, sound stage, frequency response, etc.--they're all as they SHOULD have been when you ticked that (@#$^#$@ option box for the @(#&*$^@#^ Bose system.

Mine will be the first 987 they've done, after that they'll be able to offer a "kit" so to speak which should be able to be installed by them within a day. The price will probably be over $3000 though. Again, you're paying for the sound, not for a flashy, blinky head unit and two twelve-inch subs that rattle your door panels (although don't be fooled--that sub puts out plenty of bass).

If you love music, wait for my review and decide for yourself (or come listen--anyone in SoCal is welcome to come to SD and open their ears :) ). My car should be going in at the end of this month, to be done within a week or so.

SD987 04-10-2006 11:11 AM

I'm a little confused by Dension's big news...

Going by their usa website, the big countdown/rollout is for something called DICE? which may or may not be compatible with Porsche/MOST? But on dension.com they're promoting MOST integration, via the same product or something different...Icelink Plus? for the bargain price of $159.99...

Is anyone else confused by all this? If not confused, please enlighten me, as I'd like to listen to my stupid-looking Ipod in the Boxster, instead of having to take the bus every day with those annoying teenagers.

TriGem2k 04-10-2006 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eslai
I went up a couple months back and listened to the 997 Cab they were working on. It was magic.

What I'm getting done is what they call an "enhancement". They'll add an amp and a sub in the passenger footwell (this is a bit of a bummer--it's going to crowd that space by about four inches by the center console).

The amp works in conjunction with the stock amp, tweaking the output levels. I think he may add some resistors to the dash tweeters as well. The custom subwoofer, and its placement are key.

It doesn't sound like a lot of work, but it's seriously awesome. I only heard the 997 Cab in a setup that was about 75% complete and I was already sold. Imaging, sound stage, frequency response, etc.--they're all as they SHOULD have been when you ticked that (@#$^#$@ option box for the @(#&*$^@#^ Bose system.

Mine will be the first 987 they've done, after that they'll be able to offer a "kit" so to speak which should be able to be installed by them within a day. The price will probably be over $3000 though. Again, you're paying for the sound, not for a flashy, blinky head unit and two twelve-inch subs that rattle your door panels (although don't be fooled--that sub puts out plenty of bass).

If you love music, wait for my review and decide for yourself (or come listen--anyone in SoCal is welcome to come to SD and open their ears :) ). My car should be going in at the end of this month, to be done within a week or so.


Yep Rick Reus is a good guy....You should hear my 986 with the full SST 16.2 System :)....Cant get any better than that....Oh and i opted for the speakers in the rear view mirror as well....AWESOME STUFF

986Jim 04-10-2006 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rail26
Whoa Jimbo,

What you say is the truth Kemosabe...however, we 987 have some kind of digital stereo thingy that won't take those kind of add-ons. The 987 owners are waiting for some kind of digital go between to be able to hook those up (somebody can explain the MOST problem much better than I can.) Right now, we can't hook up anything.

So my post applies to us Kemosabe's with 986's (986Forums?) without Nav which I would guess is a large majority on the site.

Anyway, sorry to hear about it not working in your 987, thats a bummer. The Phatbox is miles ahead of a plug in Ipod system. Been there done that, the Phatbox is simply 1000x better. But if it doesn't work, then it doesn't work and Ipod it is for you.

Maybe it's just me, but im against things you have to charge up and fiddle around with wires inside a car.

Rail26 04-10-2006 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD987
If not confused, please enlighten me, as I'd like to listen to my stupid-looking Ipod in the Boxster, instead of having to take the bus every day with those annoying teenagers.

Dude,

You crack me up...I can't wait to plug in my stupid looking IPOD too! Maybe we should have a "plugging in your stupid IPOD" party. Jeph can bring the bottle caps and Randall can bring Knight Rider. Maybe we should invite a few annoying teenagers? What say you SD?

By the way, I fly into San Diego International quite often and get food at Anthony's Fischette by the beach. I love the swordfish nuggets.

bhduxbury 04-10-2006 07:53 PM

how's that phatbox (PHAT!) working out for you on the airplane? or on in the hotel room? or in the rental car? or on public transport? or at your friend's house? or on a walk or jog or at the gym? does it play the video from your latest track event so you can instantly show the guys at the bar or your extended family on a visit -- because you "just happen to have it" in your car or in your pocket? does it keep your contacts and calendar synced? what about your pictures? does it hook up to a tv, too, and do all of the above spur-of-the-moment style? and i'm sure it all is as easily organized and seamlessly integrated into your life with wide-ranging content as itunes and the itunes music store can make it. 40 whole gigs. wow. how much did it cost again?

// end of ipod-inspired rant -- no offense -- you obviously love your car solution.

Rail26 04-11-2006 05:25 AM

bhduxbury...are you a lawyer? If not, I think you should be. I started playing IPOD theme music while reading your message. You made me proud.

ukchris 04-11-2006 01:45 PM

Over on another board someone called Dension, they were told that for now the MOST IceLink will only be available in Europe, in the US Dension will be selling an OEM version of the DICE MOST connector thing. No details on why, some speculation as to whether there is anything to stop a European IceLink working here but that, apparently, is the story so far.

986Jim 04-11-2006 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhduxbury
how's that phatbox (PHAT!) working out for you on the airplane? or on in the hotel room? or in the rental car? or on public transport? or at your friend's house? or on a walk or jog or at the gym? does it play the video from your latest track event so you can instantly show the guys at the bar or your extended family on a visit -- because you "just happen to have it" in your car or in your pocket? does it keep your contacts and calendar synced? what about your pictures? does it hook up to a tv, too, and do all of the above spur-of-the-moment style? and i'm sure it all is as easily organized and seamlessly integrated into your life with wide-ranging content as itunes and the itunes music store can make it. 40 whole gigs. wow. how much did it cost again?

// end of ipod-inspired rant -- no offense -- you obviously love your car solution.

Yeah, my cell phone does all that, just as well as the Ipod and it has a 2g SD card in it. So how clear are the phone calls on your Ipod? How many megapixil is it? lol..

Insert Owned picture here. :cheers:

bhduxbury 04-11-2006 05:12 PM

well, i guess you didn't read my entire message, jim -- and if your cell phone is so PHAT why didn't you hook it up to your box? -- TWO whole gigs? -- must have a small music collection . . . . enjoy it (or what's left of it when you add some of your ultra-low-rez video content) while you are away from your car. :dance:

Rail26 04-11-2006 06:22 PM

Ding Ding....Round 2.

bhduxbury 04-11-2006 08:02 PM

nah -- i know ipod love from box dudes is 999-to-one over the PHAT thing -- i will let jim have the last laugh on that issue, but i still would pay big bucks for the denison thing (i have a non-PHAT 987). keep me informed! :cheers:

SD987 04-11-2006 09:23 PM

"i still would pay big bucks for the denison thing"

Well, it looks like on a relative basis, we Porsche owners will be paying the bigger bucks. In a shameful cut and paste from that other (lesser) Boxster board, I submit the following (originally courtesy of Boxsterbret).

Dension has announced that it will will be distributing DICE Electronics’ new iPod integration kits. DICE offers three kits—Hard-Wired to MOST, Hard-wired to CDC and Hard-Wired FM-RDS—which give you “the highest in sound quality, controls from your radio and steering wheel, charging for your iPod, unlimited playlist selections and more.” The MOST kit ($400) is for Mercedes Benz and Porsche vehicles vehicles utilizing the MOST fiber optic bus. The CDC kit (from $160; Audi, Acura, BMW, GM, Honda, Lexus, Mini, Mazda, Mercedes, Scion, Toyota and VW) allows you to connect an iPod to your vehicle’s factory entertainment system through the CD changer port. The FM-RDS kit (from $160) works with all vehicles with FM radio and a universal antenna port, and offers static free FM modulation. DICE is also selling an optional $60 iPod video cradle.

On a self-serving note, this helps to clear up my earlier confusion from several posts down.

rickhuizinga 04-11-2006 10:28 PM

There's no way I'm going to buy the DICE integration kit - I'm going to order the real Dension unit from Europe.

I suspect that the DICE kit will be buggy whereas Dension Europe has been a MOST Cooperation member for years and has had access to much more information on the MOST bus.

986Jim 04-12-2006 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhduxbury
well, i guess you didn't read my entire message, jim -- and if your cell phone is so PHAT why didn't you hook it up to your box? -- TWO whole gigs? -- must have a small music collection . . . . enjoy it (or what's left of it when you add some of your ultra-low-rez video content) while you are away from your car. :dance:


Lol, get a life buddy. The phatbox is 140gb in my car. Your going on about the ipod like it's the greatest thing ever. Uhh welcome to 1990 cause it's basically like a portable cd player and now your pluging it into your car like people did with portable cd players when they couldn't put a real cd player in their car. Well an Ipod in a car is the same thing.

FOr 987 guys, they have no choice it will not work, For 986 messing with an ipod is stupid when the phatbox exists.

Your going on about how it's the best thing ever, all the things you listed and said it does, my cell phone does so whoptie do. I don't use it to play music because I don't use public transit, or have a need to watch video or tv like a geek while standing on the street corner..

Anyway whatever if you like your ipod then all the power to you use it and love it. You just wont catch me with a 2006 rendition of a 1990 cd player in my car hooked with with a bunch of wires into the dash lol. Gheto fabulous..

eslai 04-12-2006 07:07 PM

Well, there is a SMALL difference between the way these kits integrate and the way the old portable CD player deal used to work.

1. Hard-wired install, no junk hanging out of the dash/cassette player/cigarette lighter.
2. Factory volume/track controls work, as if controlling a CD changer.
3. The iPod connector is stowed in the glovebox or armrest--you clip the iPod in and stow it out of sight.

Many people will chose to install these in this manner and never remove the iPod from the car again.

BlueStreak 04-14-2006 08:39 AM

This is confusing, so here is a summary of what I've found...

The phatbox supports the Porsche CDR220 head unit, but does not mention the CDR32.
http://www.phatnoise.com/products/digitalmediaplayers/pn_phatbox.php?selectedMake=Porsche

The DICE unit has no compatibility information:
http://www.diceelectronics.com/ipod_connections.htm

Dension’s ice>Link Plus only supports pre-2003 CDR22 units:
http://www.dension.com/icelink_info.htm

Dension’s claims their ice>Link Gateway 500 will be available for Porsches at the "end of June". It has a MOST fiber-optic interface, but it does not mention which specific head units this will support.
http://support.dension.com/dension/icelinkgateway500.php

There is a rumor that someone (Becker? They make the head units) is working on an iPod interface for the CDR23, to be available "in the next few months":
http://www.beckerautosound.com/beckerboard/viewtopic.php?t=8

Rail26 04-14-2006 12:09 PM

I called Becker last September and they told me this summer.


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