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Thanks for the vid btw. I really wonder what's the (distance) diff between the static Lit and oem... still I bet it's not much. Great headlight, I've always said. They are just so bloody expansive.... their major issue |
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I already have my litronics (which were a bit of a refurb/repair project and much less expensive than buying a new set) so right now I'm not seriously considering an aftermarket solution. I'm pretty happy with how my project turned out, from an appearance standpoint, but I would like to improve the function: http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1419286640.jpg Thanks to Markus for posting the video on the litronic operation. Considering that (according to my Bentley manual) litronics were an option starting in 1999, it seems possible that a more modern set of controls would be available. By the way, here are some shots of the internals of my defective ballast: http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1419286867.jpg http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1419286911.jpg Does that look like a lot of components for what it does? |
Hard to digest the fact that there is someone obsessed about headlights more than Charles and myself on this forum LOL
You can't run xenon on a reflector - too bright. You'll blind a deer and he'll simply jump in front of your car. Xenon needs to be distributed (pattern) to be effective, safe - and legal. You are right about the oem wires. The gauge is 16AWG and rated at 20amp. Igniting two HID ballasts at the same time (let's say you start the car with high beams stick pushed to on) would bring up the current dangerously near its limit (7~9amps per ballast). Something will melt... god know where You could polish your current projector's glass lens and throw it "true" 55watts HID. You'll see though people clothes while waiting at red lights. Works but very harsh on the optic coating (not tested, careful with that idea) See, you have no choice but to go for that DIY Bi-Xenon retrofit kit (clear lens and all). Literonniks are late 90's tech mate. You can post your current headlights in the Buy & Sell section today :D Your ballast has ASIC digital chip technology. Very expansive. Feeling sorry for your loss |
And you also need an Illuminated Wind Deflector. Thank you
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@ KevinH1990:
Litronic was first introduced in the Porsche 993. Litronic is a Bosch product. The electrical ballast was used in different cars - not only Porsche. Please check the Bosch parts number. If it is: 1 307 329 023 the Litronic ballast was used in the following cars: Audi A8 D2 1994-1999 Audi TT 8N 1998-2000 BMW 3er e46 1997-2001 BMW 7er e38 1994-1998 Mercedes CL C215 1999-2002 Mercedes C W202 1993-2000 Mercedes S W140 1991-1998 Mercedes S W220 1998-2002 Mercedes SL R129 1989-2001 Mercedes SLK R170 1996-2005 Porsche 911 993 1993-1998 Porsche 911 996 1997-2002 Porsche Boxster 986 1996-2004 VW Bora 1998-2000 VW Golf IV-4 - 1997-2000 So maybe you can get a replacement part from another car that is a little less pricey than the Porsche OEM part. I also would recommend to check ebay auctions. Sometimes people offer a complete oem conversion kit. You also can check the Porsche Boxster parts catalog for all the parts you'll need for a complete Litronics conversion. Regards Markus |
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I managed to find a controller on Ebay last night, (Control unit: Part number 00004490038) So now all I need is 2 small plugs 2 (99965256822) and the wiring harness (99661298800). It looks like the parts might be manufactured by Bosch, so I'll check Markus' suggestion and see it I can find the parts cross referenced from another manufacturer. If anyone is interested, I'm selling my spare litronic parts to finance this "obsession." http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-parts-sale-wanted/55179-litronic-headlight-parts-drivers-side.html#post429259 |
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I'll have a look with the pros locally if we can find your controller |
I find it hard to believe that any reputable seller would offer xenon "upgrades" to be installed in halogen lights, without projectors. All you get is a mess of light that will blind oncoming drivers and sooner or later, a policeman.
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+1 Mitch.
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If anyone can help, I have part 1 in this picture on its way. I just need the items labeled 2, 3 and 4. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1419363319.jpg Once I have those parts I won't bug anyone again about litronics. |
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Do the parts you use belong to a 996, or a 986? And what model year? There are some slight differences. Regards Markus |
The driver's side (left) headlight is from a 99 Carrera (996). The passenger's side (right) is from a 2001 Boxster.
I did not see any major differences between the Boxster and Carrera headlight assemblies and most of the web sites selling the litronic upgrade packages show the same kits for both cars. For example, on Pelican's web site, the 996 kit is part number 000-044-900-41-OEM and the 986 kit number is 000-044-900-41-OEM. Here's a link to the part I bought on Ebay: |
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i'm not talking about the headlights. I'm talking about height sensors and wiring. There are also ballasts with the same Porsche number but with different Bosch numbers available. I'm not shure that they work 100% perfect together, because the OEM wiring for both headlights is seriel, not parallel. If you are looking for the Porsche part numbers for the parts on the picture, just take a look in the parts catalogue. US: Porsche Original Parts Catalogue - Parts and Diagnostic Information - Porsche Service - Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG Europe: Porsche Originalteile Katalog - Porsche Originalteile - Porsche Service - Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG Regards Markus |
As I mentioned earlier, I found the control module on Ebay. I ordered the wiring harness today from ECS Tuning. Although this won't provide the auto-leveling function, it will provide the high-beam rotation.
I found someone selling the parts for the OEM system, but I cannot find instructions for the installation. In addition, he is selling the headlights, washers, sensors and wiring in a package and he indicates that he doesn't want to separate them. Unless I can sell what I have, that is a show stopper. Maybe someday I'll find a part-out in my area with the factory set up and take the parts off so that I can figure out how to put them back on. For now, I'll have to settle for the more limited function. Overall, I'm happy with what I have. Since I managed to sell my halogen headlights,my net cost is reasonable. I probably won't receive my wiring kit and control module in time to install them during the holidays. I'll be tied up with work beginning Monday, so it may be late January or February before I can install them. Fortunately, I've found several write ups including the Porsche TSB, so I should have plenty of information to complete the project. Since I purchased my headlights from damaged cars, I guess there is a chance that the motors could be damaged. However, I have a third motor in case I need it. That is one of the risks you take when you try to do this type of project on a budget. |
I installed the module and wiring harness today. I used the TSB and this write up: Skyler's Web Site
My litronics now work just like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syXUCtUiFWY&feature=youtu.be It was a real "moment of truth" when I turned on the lights and flicked the high-beam stalk. When I consider that I put the system together as follows: 1. Two headlights from a wrecked Boxster - one had water damage 2. Third headlight from a wrecking yard - had a bad wiring harness 3. Ballast from eBay seller to replace the one with water damage 4. Control module from eBay 5. Wiring harness from ECS Tuning 6. Lot's of advice from Particleweave and Nine8Six 7. Hours of polishing headlight covers I'm kind of amazed it worked on the first try. When I started out, all I wanted was the clear covers so that I could de-amber my headlights. I guess I backed into a major project. Still, I'm very happy with the results and the costs were reasonable considering that I was able to sell my amber headlights. |
I got lucky... I bought a 99 base that has pretty much no options except the litronics. I didn't realize how much they were used until after we bought the car.
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I guess all's well that ends well. I now have the shiny bits and the litronics. Although I don't have the factory leveling system which would be nice. I'm thinking about adding the dynamic leveling system. This guy on Renntech Litronic retrofit question - 996 Series (Carrera, Carrera 4, Carrera 4S, Targa) - RennTech.org Forums claims to have done it, but he is a little short on the details. (I need detailed step-by-step instructions for my projects.) However, other contributors seem skeptical of his achievement. |
Nine8Six's comment has me confused
Both of my 2002's halogens are yellowed, pitted and have burned spots on the interior lenses. So, I'm looking to replace them and would prefer to install Litronics, if it's feasible.
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There is only one Xenon/High Intensity Discharge bulb in each unit of the OEM litronic headlights. The high beam and fog lights have regular halogen bulbs. So, the high beam is just like it would be in your stock headlights. The Xenon bulb stays on when you flip on the high beams, so overall it is much brighter than the stock all-halogen units.
If you add the control module, you have an additional feature. The Xenon bulb rotates up when you turn on the high beam. So, you have an even brighter effect because the halogen and Xenon bulbs are both aimed higher. I eventually added the control module to my car. You can see it in operation in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGkfebCCf2Y This shows the parking lights, Xenon startup with self-leveling and high beam turn on. |
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