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Slate 01 11-12-2014 11:14 AM

Duraflex Paintable Wing
 
105135 Duraflex Paintable Wings - S-Design for at Andy's Auto Sport

I'm looking for some opinions on the above spoiler. Does anyone have any experience with them? Are they good quality with good fitment? Comments would be appreciated, thanks.

billj18 11-13-2014 04:04 AM

I was considering one of these myself, until I saw one in the Porsche Paddock at Daytona last year (if the owner is present, this is not intended as a criticism of your car! It's just my observation.).

Looking down on the trunk and spoiler when retracted, the gap between them was uneven; greater in the middle than at the ends, as if the spoiler had a sag in it. Second -- and more critical -- the recess in the body for the stock spoiler is squared, but the ends of the replacement wing are rounded, resulting in large triangular gaps.

Does anyone know how effective this wing is compared to the stock set up? The wing looks awfully small.

Bill

jmatta 11-13-2014 06:35 AM

I have the spoiler on my car and think it looks wonderful...get many positive comments from other owners. Fit and finish is factory quality. Very simple to install and easily reversible, should you wish to revert back to stock. Had it for years and no issues, though my car is not a daily driver. I ordered mine painted, so it was just a matter of installation.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1415892948.jpg

jmatta 11-13-2014 06:40 AM

Another angle
 
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1415893201.jpg

Slate 01 11-13-2014 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmatta (Post 424954)
I have the spoiler on my car and think it looks wonderful...get many positive comments from other owners. Fit and finish is factory quality. Very simple to install and easily reversible, should you wish to revert back to stock. Had it for years and no issues, though my car is not a daily driver. I ordered mine painted, so it was just a matter of installation.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1415892948.jpg

Thanks for photos and comments. Do you have a photo that looks dead level with the wing? I'm wondering how big the gap between lower edge of spoiler and top edge of bumper is. Or is that gap filled in nicely with how spoiler or some type of trim.
Thanks for the help. I have never really cared for the oe tombstone spoiler and would like to find a modest replacement spoiler.

jmatta 11-13-2014 07:28 AM

Best photo I have, but shadows hide the view
 
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1415896114.jpg

particlewave 11-13-2014 08:13 AM

I'm with Bill on this.

I wanted to get that spoiler until I saw one on a car in person. The gaps are quite large and obvious, especially near the tail lights.
I suspect that this is also why we rarely see good pictures of these areas.

On a dark car like jmatta's, they look better because the color hides the gaps, I think.

Perfectlap 11-13-2014 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmatta (Post 424954)
I have the spoiler on my car and think it looks wonderful...get many positive comments from other owners. Fit and finish is factory quality. Very simple to install and easily reversible, should you wish to revert back to stock. Had it for years and no issues, though my car is not a daily driver. I ordered mine painted, so it was just a matter of installation.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1415892948.jpg

What's on your third brake light? or is just clear?

Perfectlap 11-13-2014 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 424967)

On a dark car like jmatta's, they look better because the color hides the gaps, I think.

I think the gaps even without an aftermarket spoiler are pretty noticeable, especially where the tailight meets the trunk lid (when you look at it from the side). Not the strongest part of the 986 design.
But that's a lot of curvy stuff going on back there to manufacture without huge expense. Just don't look too close :D


great look though. I would consider the GT3tek bumper cover in the future though. It fills out the rear a little better to match the front if you have skirting or the GT3 front bumper
This a forum member car below (JAAY)

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1415896114.jpg

http://www.gt3tek.com/products/pictures/boxster-rd8.jpg

on silver:
http://www.gt3tek.com/products/pictures/mboxrd1.jpg

jmatta 11-13-2014 10:05 AM

"What's on your third brake light? Didn't peel off the backing on your porsche decal?"

The third tail light is a clear LED unit (like the side markers) the center lights red when the brakes are applied. Much cleaner looking than the standard red one. :D

Slate 01 11-13-2014 10:13 AM

Thanks jmatta.

I do like the clear third (eye) brake light. I just may need to do me one of dem. I saw one on ebay for $69. Any links on where you recommend buying it?

Gracias

Slate 01 11-13-2014 12:26 PM

I'm actually looking for a smoke third brake light, anyone have a link that they would recommend?

Slate 01 11-14-2014 06:50 AM

Just ordered my spoiler, I liked what I saw on jmatta's. I have always thought that the tombstone spoiler was just not very appealing. Sort of felt like Porsche finished their car design, put it in a wind tunnel, found out they had a problem with lift at high speed, crammed in a spoiler as an afterthought, and that was the end of it. You look at how engineered and over-engineered the Germans do things, the OE spoiler just didn't seem to match those ideals. So out with the old and in with the new.

I will do the painting myself and post some pics when I get it all done.

Thanks for the all the input guys:cheers:

Perfectlap 11-14-2014 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slate 01 (Post 425082)
Sort of felt like Porsche finished their car design, put it in a wind tunnel, found out they had a problem with lift at high speed, crammed in a spoiler as an afterthought, and that was the end of it. You look at how engineered and over-engineered the Germans do things, the OE spoiler just didn't seem to match those ideals. So out with the old and in with the new.

Oh I definitely disagree with your take there. That's a safety issue and they're a sports car company. If their hail mary design intended to save them from bankruptcy turned out to be dangerous they're goose would have been cooked for sure. Also, the Boxster is a superb handling car that has set the bar in class since day one. Lucking into well-engineered downforce was not a coincidence or afterthought.

particlewave 11-14-2014 07:22 AM

Good. Maybe you can be the first to post good close-ups of the fit. :D

Me? I've decided to make my own out of fiberglass or cf because I want something unique with a perfect fit ;)
...and because I'm nuts.

Slate 01 11-14-2014 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 425089)
Oh I definitely disagree with your take there. That's a safety issue and they're a sports car company. If their hail mary design intended to save them from bankruptcy turned out to be dangerous they're goose would have been cooked for sure. Also, the Boxster is a superb handling car that has set the bar in class since day one. Lucking into well-engineered downforce was not a coincidence or afterthought.

Let me state it this way, it definitely looks like it was designed as an afterthought, cause it doesn't look to inspired to me.:barf:

tomonomics 11-14-2014 12:19 PM

Our Boxsters have spoilers? I've never seen mine in person...

Seriously, I assumed they designed it with the same idea as the 964 spoiler: keep the clean lines of the car until you absolutely need to change the aerodynamics. I personally like the rear of the 986 sans spoiler, even if it looks less-than-ideal once the 'wing' is deployed at speed. Like I said, I never see it.

The redesigned rear of the 987 flows much better with an exposed spoiler IMO, as evidenced by the Boxster Spyder.

-T

Slate 01 11-15-2014 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 425090)
Good. Maybe you can be the first to post good close-ups of the fit. :D

Me? I've decided to make my own out of fiberglass or cf because I want something unique with a perfect fit ;)
...and because I'm nuts.

Post some "close-ups" of the spoiler that you made. I would love to see that "something unique with a perfect fit" that you were able to construct. Heck, you may have people beating down your door to order that perfect fit that you have concocted. I wait with my breath held to see your creation.:cool:

The Radium King 11-15-2014 09:40 AM

pw - check out the cayman wing from porsche mesh:

Rear wing for Porsche 987 Cayman & Boxster

something like this for the 986 would rock. or a ducktail - a ducktail would also rock.

Nine8Six 11-15-2014 10:49 AM

dun no about you guys but I think it's a pretty cool advantage to have an inch (.5) gap in that area. Lots of heat built-up in the arse of that boxster car, no?

For some reason that Cayman spoiler looks like it should have been there since factory day 1

edc 11-15-2014 11:26 AM

I've got one too http://www.boxa.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=59044&page=7

You can also buy then on eBay.

jaykay 11-15-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Radium King (Post 425212)
pw - check out the cayman wing from porsche mesh:

Rear wing for Porsche 987 Cayman & Boxster

something like this for the 986 would rock. or a ducktail - a ducktail would also rock.

Yep..these are the best looking out there. Looks like you would actually get down force out of it. tried to get these guys to give me a plan view pattern to see if they could be made to work on a 986...no luck. I was actual thinking of working off of the 986 spoiler metal frame or putting a 987 mechanism in to take the wing

I have always wondered about the loss of lift spoiling capability with removal of the stock blade.....also very reluctant to alter the stock lines unless the thing looks spot on

Currently they these are being produced

BrandonJames89 11-15-2014 01:24 PM

I have the same spoiler and people are always asking me where they can pick it up. I think the gaps and fit are fine. Here's a bunch of angles to check out.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416089356.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416089414.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416089470.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416089521.jpg

and deployed:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416089885.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416089897.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416089912.jpg

jmatta 11-15-2014 01:33 PM

Nice...that's what I'm talkin' about. I think these spoilers give a nice touch to a somewhat drab tail (IMHO). My car and my friends...both '02 BoxS...only 230~ serial numbers apart.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416090736.jpg

Slate 01 11-15-2014 03:29 PM

I likey, can't wait for mine to be delivered. Thanks guys. I couldn't agree more with both of you. Again I appreciate the photos. jmatta, the side by side really speaks volumes. I think the word "drab" is a good way of stating it.

Xpit77 11-16-2014 04:33 AM

Wing
 
I have one too.http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416144806.jpg

Slate 01 11-16-2014 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xpit77 (Post 425295)

I hear that PartWeave is working on a new wing design for that WWII fighter plane ;)


Oh the wing on your car looks good to me. Thanks for the pic:cheers:

Perfectlap 11-17-2014 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomonomics (Post 425129)
Our Boxsters have spoilers? I've never seen mine in person...

Seriously, I assumed they designed it with the same idea as the 964 spoiler: keep the clean lines of the car until you absolutely need to change the aerodynamics. I personally like the rear of the 986 sans spoiler, even if it looks less-than-ideal once the 'wing' is deployed at speed. Like I said, I never see it.

The redesigned rear of the 987 flows much better with an exposed spoiler IMO, as evidenced by the Boxster Spyder.

-T

I also like the rear of the 987 the best of the three Boxster designs. But I like LeMans GT1 headlights on the 986 the best of all. It really just absolutely needs the GT3 bumper to shine. Which then means you have to add skirting to even out the overhang and that unfortunately means you need to upgrade to 18" wheels to fill in the now larger wheel well shape. I wish they would have continued evolving the fried eggs into something uniquely Porsche instead of just lifting the Ferrari headlights for the 981.
I also like the sides of the 986 better than the funny looking air intake on the 987 and I'm not a fan of the CGT'esque intake on the 981 which seems too obvious to me, reminds me of those CGT Boxster conversion kits. I would have liked something completely new and not a rehash of an old design.

This spoiler is nice. Gives it a little bit of the duck bill thing. If you're going to own a car for this long why not spice it up a bit. But those gaps really make it a dark car thing only.

Xpit77 11-17-2014 10:22 AM

Aircraft
 
Actually it`s a WWII Harvard trainer.The picture was taken at the airport where pilots were trained for the war. That one crashed into the lake on a training run. It was brought up by some veteran airmen and was restored and put on that monument. It is in front of the Air Force Club that is located at the airport.Ya it looks even better in person.

BrokenLinkage 11-17-2014 11:11 AM

I wanted this spoiler to give it a little more panache in the closed position, but didn't try it because it looked like it might be a chore to incorporate it while keeping the "tombstone" for high speed stability. Now I'm glad.
No offense to those who have gone this route, but the photo showing the 2 side by side in the closed position actually flows better with the oem version to my eye. Would never have thought this until the side-by-side comparison. The 986 has a pretty classic rear end, with nice lines, reminding me of some of the classic automotive beauties of all time. (Think Jaguar). Anyway, I'm now not so sure that a$$ needs a bustle...

Slate 01 11-17-2014 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xpit77 (Post 425429)
Actually it`s a WWII Harvard trainer.The picture was taken at the airport where pilots were trained for the war. That one crashed into the lake on a training run. It was brought up by some veteran airmen and was restored and put on that monument. It is in front of the Air Force Club that is located at the airport.Ya it looks even better in person.

With PartWeave's wing redesign it could have been a high speed fighter instead of a trainer. lol

brjak 11-17-2014 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xpit77 (Post 425429)
Actually it`s a WWII Harvard trainer.The picture was taken at the airport where pilots were trained for the war. That one crashed into the lake on a training run. It was brought up by some veteran airmen and was restored and put on that monument. It is in front of the Air Force Club that is located at the airport.Ya it looks even better in person.

As a private pilot, I think I recognize that plane from the Kingston, ON (CYGK) airport.

Pdwight 11-17-2014 06:31 PM

A Documentary
 
OI think I watched a documentary on that way back......rescuing the Harvard that is


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