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BIGJake111 09-28-2014 07:05 PM

918 catches fire
 
http://jalopnik.com/nooooooo-first-porsche-918-spyder-burns-to-ground-in-g-1640157724

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...d0924b401e.jpg

Well this is quite sad, anyways brought this here for speculations, being at a gas station may be pump error instead of a design flaw, we can only hope.

Timco 09-28-2014 07:14 PM

That front right tire still has enough good components to be worth a couple of Boxsters...

You know, in Cyprus, I hear they do amazing things with cars this bad or worse..

It's those EPA treehuggers!!! If asbestos was still legal......

patssle 09-28-2014 07:26 PM

You know the fuel cap is pretty dang close to the exhaust ports that come out the top. Just takes one person removing the fuel nozzle to accidently squeeze the trigger and splash gas over the exhaust.

TeamOxford 09-28-2014 07:38 PM

Screw the car. Lucky the whole fuel station didn't go up in flames.

As an aside, it's amazing how some people revel in another person's misfortune, especially when it involves an exotic car, i.e. "He must've been a rich *******, driving a car like that."

Just sayin'..........

TO

Timco 09-28-2014 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by patssle (Post 419954)
You know the fuel cap is pretty dang close to the exhaust ports that come out the top. Just takes one person removing the fuel nozzle to accidently squeeze the trigger and splash gas over the exhaust.

So those exhaust ports are 500*F??

Porsche9 09-28-2014 10:11 PM

That sucks.

Pominoz 09-29-2014 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 419953)
That front right tire still has enough good components to be worth a couple of Boxsters...

You know, in Cyprus, I hear they do amazing things with cars this bad or worse..

It's those EPA treehuggers!!! If asbestos was still legal......

I used to live in Cyprus, and they could panel beat out a car that had been in a crusher, but I'm not sure how they'd do with melted carbon fibre. :)

And to think I was worried about my IMSB......

Jake Raby 09-29-2014 04:30 AM

Wonder if it lost a rod bolt :-)

Joe B 09-29-2014 04:37 AM

Why was it so easy to guess who posted this before I looked and saw Jake's name :rolleyes:?

Timco 09-29-2014 04:45 AM

Was going to point out how rare this car is.....



But that one seems 'well done'........:D

Ebell914 09-29-2014 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 419974)
Was going to point out how rare this car is.....



But that one seems 'well done'........:D

Awesome!!!

Deserion 09-29-2014 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 419974)
Was going to point out how rare this car is.....



But that one seems 'well done'........:D

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BIGJake111 09-29-2014 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe B (Post 419972)
Why was it so easy to guess who posted this before I looked and saw Jake's name :rolleyes:?


I am always on-top of the car news! I have to say, my opinion lies with driver error matted with a bit of a design flaw, the location of exhaust can make a mistake at the pump a bit more dire. However, maybe the driver was just smoking.

Timco 09-29-2014 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 419982)
I am always on-top of the car news! I have to say, my opinion lies with driver error matted with a bit of a design flaw, the location of exhaust can make a mistake at the pump a bit more dire. However, maybe the driver was just smoking.

It is impossible for a cigarette to ignite gas.

The tail pipe would have needed to be glowing pretty bright to ignite gas.

Maybe he tried filling the exhaust? ;)

Heiko 09-29-2014 06:19 AM

Wow this one burned close to home for me (about 40min away)
Everything is preventable, but who knows what happened... maybe it was the guys fault maybe it wasn't - either way that's gotta suck!

A bit more about the owner in this article...

Porsche 918 Spyder Catches Fire and Burns to the Ground » AutoGuide.com News

Heiko 09-29-2014 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 419985)
It is impossible for a cigarette to ignite gas.

The tail pipe would have needed to be glowing pretty bright to ignite gas.

Maybe he tried filling the exhaust? ;)


You are absolutely correct... either that or he spilled gas over an area with an unprotected electrical terminal or something.... who knows... one of the articles said "gas overflowed and then the car burst into flames"... so that spells user error and possibly a design issue of perhaps an unprotected connector within the filling area. If this turns into another recall then this would be the second engine fire related recall for the 2014's (last one was the 911 GT3's)

Perfectlap 09-29-2014 06:39 AM

I don't think that relationship is going to last.... if me lady was in the car I'd be driving AWAY from the gas station on fire.

Perfectlap 09-29-2014 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 419985)
It is impossible for a cigarette to ignite gas.

I pulled up to a gas station once when the tanker truck was there preparing to unloading its fuel. One guy was pumping gas while smoking. I heard the old truck driver say to him, "I'm not going to tell you again, put out that cigarette!".
My guess is that the cigarette could have caused a spark with some other substance nearby which the truck driver wanted no part of.

JayG 09-29-2014 07:11 AM

gasoline vapor is what generally ignites, not as a liquid

Timco 09-29-2014 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 419991)
gasoline vapor is what generally ignites, not as a liquid

Only because it has mixed with air to the right mix. Then that mix creeps outward. Danger!! Same ignition temp.

Giller 09-29-2014 07:54 AM

From some sciency website:

"...gasoline vapour has a much lower autoignition temperature than the gasoline itself. Namely, if you spill gasoline on a hot road (say in the hot summer day) you will be able to ignite gasoline by contact with a cigarette easily, just because of the gasoline vapour layer that would be produced above the surface of the gasoline. Not to even mention throwing the cigarette into the container with gasoline that has been closed for some time and is therefore full of gasoline vapours."

I remember Myth Busters doing tests on this. It's next to impossible, but given the right set of circumstances, it can happen. That's of course assuming it was a cigarette issue, which I'm not sure is even in evidence.

Nine8Six 09-29-2014 08:07 AM

Why do I get feeling that this incident was staged. Well planned for.

"An exotic catches fire at a petrol station" There you have it - Worldwide News in less than 48hrs

Automakers fav

jaykay 09-29-2014 08:50 AM

I actually saw this car blast down Richmond in TO last week......sounded great! What a shame.

You need a build up of vapour and ignition source such as spark to accomplish this. These conditions are possible while fuelling any car especially in dry conditions like we have here now.....that's why aircraft are grounded before fuelling; before the nozzle comes close to the filler

....I always tend to avoid that gas station

Timco 09-29-2014 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giller (Post 420000)
From some sciency website:

"...gasoline vapour has a much lower autoignition temperature than the gasoline itself. Namely, if you spill gasoline on a hot road (say in the hot summer day) you will be able to ignite gasoline by contact with a cigarette easily, just because of the gasoline vapour layer that would be produced above the surface of the gasoline. Not to even mention throwing the cigarette into the container with gasoline that has been closed for some time and is therefore full of gasoline vapours."

I remember Myth Busters doing tests on this. It's next to impossible, but given the right set of circumstances, it can happen. That's of course assuming it was a cigarette issue, which I'm not sure is even in evidence.

That's different. Heating or preheating the vapors would lower the ignition temp.

A puddle or can of gas just emitting vapors in a closed space is what I was thinking of, or the cool gas coming from the pump.

Bald Eagle 09-29-2014 11:31 AM

That's enough
 
I was just about to trade my 2000 986 S + a little cash for one of these but after seeing the photo I'll stick with my beautiful 986.
Larry (The Bald Eagle)

NewArt 09-29-2014 05:06 PM

According to the news, it was gas spill/exhaust. The guy only had it for a couple of weeks. See, never buy the 1st MY. That's why I'm waiting! :cool:

BIGJake111 09-29-2014 06:14 PM

In the case exhaust is the blame, how could they fix this, a special porsche gas deflectors that raises out of the car?

NewArt 09-29-2014 06:29 PM

Naw, just take a tip from the Boxster and put the filler up at the front where it's supposed to be! :p

pony13ca 09-30-2014 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heiko (Post 419986)
Wow this one burned close to home for me (about 40min away)
Everything is preventable, but who knows what happened... maybe it was the guys fault maybe it wasn't - either way that's gotta suck!

A bit more about the owner in this article...

Porsche 918 Spyder Catches Fire and Burns to the Ground » AutoGuide.com News

About 15 minutes from me! I have never seen the car on the road before this story.

Timco 09-30-2014 04:56 AM

Canada.

Owner is probably still apologizing for all the fuss his car has caused.

"Nothing worth getting upset aboot"....

Xpit77 09-30-2014 10:34 AM

Hey rich guy. You put the nozzle in the filler first THEN squeeze the handle. 918`s run on Canadian pump gas ? Who knew ?:ah:


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