Need opinions on a summer project.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by kjc2050

Here's another question for you to ponder: why do you think the guy asking for money for beer and video games has received donations?

I do feel that my ad was rushed and can be improved on. As with the beer and video games goes, it is likely people quite similar to the guy asking for this money giving it to him. People see how stupid the ad is, and are sending him money, I also am starting to strongly regret the site that I have used for this. I feel that it is very hard to not come off as spoiled when owning a Porsche, i tried to execute the ad in a way that showed how much I respect and like the Volvo and see it as a bargain for something unique and stylish. I think I to an extent have out done myself with owning a Porsche, it is pure joy to own one and maybe cabin fever is getting to me. When I drove past that Volvo on the lot i thought to myself that if I was not blessed enough to be able to afford the Porsche i would likely be in something like that and i would love it just as much. Maybe it is the inevitability that we will always want what we do not have, however, it is a strange flip-side that i see something extravagant in this simple affordable car. It is more so my creative side that wants this than my business side. My business side was more at home when preparing documentation to fight insurance on, liability, proving the car as totaled, and then the value of replacing it. Through this i went from insurance sending me a 5k check and 20% liability to now 0% and a 13k check. I will wait until this weekend when I get my new Boxster, and rethink from their, at that point I will very likely withdraw the current ad, and create a new one on another site. For the time being I have already spread the current ad and will see how it does until Friday.

[BIGJake111]

The website the ad is currently on is much more locally based. I am also losing interest in the Volvo upon seeking a Volvo forum. Basically i was told the cars are terribly over priced, as expensive as our Porsche is to maintain and I would be better off to buy a camera for the Porsche.

I really like the idea; however, I feel that it would be much easier to go trough this if I felt more strongly about it at this point. I think the time is not right, I will be on the lookout for a cheap Boxster to flip or roller to part out, this is something I have considered multiple times in the past and something I would be much more interested in for funding this project.

[RawleyD]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

at that point I will very likely withdraw the current ad,

How about having some dignity and stopping at this point. I mean really..

The more you drag on and make excuses for your begging, the more you solidify yourself on this forum as a brat with a porsche that was never earned in any way.
It's not art, community or a social experiment. It's pathetic.

:ah:

[Coffinhunter]

But really Jake......

What you are doing is feeding into the "out of touch", "elitest", "entitled", stereotype of a Porsche owner.

I understand that you are pitching it as an art experiment, but whatever your intentions are, perceptions are reality, and the perception is you are being spoiled. It doesn't matter that you are buying the Porsche yourself. What is going to bother, or offend, others is that you are somehow so entitled to own a Porsche at 16, yet too good to drive it to school, so others should purchase a more appropriate vehicle for you. Additionally, when your "request" for funds is so littered with spelling, continuity, structural, and grammatical errors, it really comes off as "I'm too good to even be bothered by you, but fund me".

Finally, when you say that you have a really nice car (a Porsche), but want a beater to drive to school at the age of 16, you are going to anger the vast majority of people who either a) drove a beater at 16, or b) dreamt of owning a beater or any car at 16.

Sorry to keep beating you over the head on this, but it will be one of those things you look back on in a few years and really wonder what you were thinking.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by RawleyD

How about having some dignity and stopping at this point. I mean really..

The more you drag on and make excuses for your begging, the more you solidify yourself on this forum as a brat with a porsche that was never earned in any way.
It's not art, community or a social experiment. It's pathetic.

:ah:

Since my parents gave me a Porsche and cover insurance, if the public would just chip in and give me a DD to keep the miles down and keep the Porsche safe, life would be grand......after all, that's still less than what my parents spent on my sister!

Sound about right?

Jake...

It's OK that your folks can afford to give you a 986 as your first car. I wish my dad was in that position. Just stop using the term "I own" when "you were given". Show a little respect. Most of us bought our own cars. It is very cool that you chose a 986. Just leave it at that.

It's OK that you come here to ask for help or brag about your car. That's what this site is for....

It's not OK to ask the public (me and everyone else on here) to fund a DD, no matter how creatively you do it. What about single parents with 2 kids and no vehicle? People who need to get to WORK, not school? If you do not pay your own insurance or registration or car payment, how can you justify a second free car from Joe Public? (someday, I promise you will understand this...) If your parents can afford to give you that car and cover insurance, obviously they can afford to pay for my clutch, right? Please ask them and get back to me.

It's not OK to ask for opinions, then brush them off when 99% of them are saying the same thing. Learn to take the advise you are given, even if the entire board does not support this notion of begging for a DD or the oil type you want to use.

Please, re-read your posts and aim for better grammar / English. You will come off as more intelligent, and won't look as young as you are while bragging about how well you do in your English classes.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by Timco

Since my parents gave me a Porsche and cover insurance, if the public would just chip in and give me a DD to keep the miles down and keep the Porsche safe, life would be grand......after all, that's still less than what my parents spent on my sister!

Sound about right?

Jake...

It's OK that your folks can afford to give you a 986 as your first car. I wish my dad was in that position. Just stop using the term "I own" when "you were given". Show a little respect. Most of us bought our own cars. It is very cool that you chose a 986. Just leave it at that.

It's OK that you come here to ask for help or brag about your car. That's what this site is for....

It's not OK to ask the public (me and everyone else on here) to fund a DD, no matter how creatively you do it.

I under no circumstance expected people here to donate, I brought it here as I wanted opinions on it, which are all appreciated, I am hard headed, but I do listen, it just takes a lot of it haha.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

I under no circumstance expected people here to donate, I brought it here as I wanted opinions on it, which are all appreciated, I am hard headed, but I do listen, it just takes a lot of it haha.

My point was that we, the members of this forum, are the public. You're getting public opinions.

[BYprodriver]

Originally Posted by Timco

My point was that we, the members of this forum, are the public. You're getting public opinions.

A public that is predisposed to like BigJake at that.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by Timco

My point was that we, the members of this forum, are the public. You're getting public opinions.

Yes opinions, I was taking the ad other places for the kind if people I expected to give a crap about having their name on a dash haha. Which the opinions are all welcome, I was on the edge of if I should do this or not, but I really wanted to do it. I knew it was controversial and brought it here to get opinions and maybe have enough chime in to make me really want to do it, or talk me out of it. So all I can say is thanks to all, I feel I would have regretted it if I followed through, posts here are categorized as tough love and wise words for me.

[batshapedheart]

Fellas, I think we are forgetting a couple of real facts, 1) Jake is 16, seriously how much maturity are you expecting out of him? He is most definitely not part of the generation most of those in this forum are part of (I'm not one of them).
I for one have worked since I was 13, when I used to bag powdered milk.
Also lets point out the 2nd fact, in this time and age the crowdfunding could work!
Still that doesn't make it neither a great idea nor a success story. Remember we live in a world where people who bring so little to the world as Kim Kardashian have over 8 million followers on Instagram alone.
So, Jake is your idea an original one? No. Could it work? Heck yeah. Would I brag that I crowdfunded my 2nd vehicle because I didn't want my Porsche to get dirty? The answer to this last question would prove to us that you are just 16.

[BruceH]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

Yes opinions, I was taking the ad other places for the kind if people I expected to give a crap about having their name on a dash haha. Which the opinions are all welcome, I was on the edge of if I should do this or not, but I really wanted to do it. I knew it was controversial and brought it here to get opinions and maybe have enough chime in to make me really want to do it, or talk me out of it. So all I can say is thanks to all, I feel I would have regretted it if I followed through, posts here are categorized as tough love and wise words for me.

Originally Posted by batshapedheart

Fellas, I think we are forgetting a couple of real facts, 1) Jake is 16, seriously how much maturity are you expecting out of him? He is most definitely not part of the generation most of those in this forum are part of (I'm not one of them).
I for one have worked since I was 13, when I used to bag powdered milk.
Also lets point out the 2nd fact, in this time and age the crowdfunding could work!
Still that doesn't make it neither a great idea nor a success story. Remember we live in a world where people who bring so little to the world as Kim Kardashian have over 8 million followers on Instagram alone.
So, Jake is your idea an original one? No. Could it work? Heck yeah. Would I brag that I crowdfunded my 2nd vehicle because I didn't want my Porsche to get dirty? The answer to this last question would prove to us that you are just 16.

I have worked since the age of 9 and expected my kids to start working by the age of 16 at the latest, which they did. In Jake's case, I see the unbridled enthusiasm of youth. Jake is from a different era than most of us. Personally, if the proposal was worded a bit differently, it might have succeeded, what do I(we) know? I still believe Jake should have a job as a prerequisite to having a car. That was the deal I made with my kids. You want a car? Then you get to pay for gas, insurance repairs, etc. I told each that they needed a minimum of $1000 in the bank to cover repairs. It really sucks to be driving in Texas in the summer without air conditioning! I am glad to see that Jake has recognized the "tough love" on this forum. I am also glad that a 16 year old sees the value of advice and a Porsche! Remember, he could have just gone and done his project without asking for advice.Not many 16 year olds would ask a bunch of old farts for advice. As TO would say, "Just sayin"

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by batshapedheart

Fellas, I think we are forgetting a couple of real facts, 1) Jake is 16, seriously how much maturity are you expecting out of him? .

Bullseye. Fact is Jake's frontal lobe will still be developing until he's in his early to mid 20's. The instinct for caution, be it fiscal or physical, has not fully developed.

Originally Posted by batshapedheart

Also lets point out the 2nd fact, in this time and age the crowdfunding could work!

Which is precisely the problem. If Jake were successful at begging, it would only encourage him (and his friends) to get things without working for them.
Meanwhile 16 year olds in Russia, China, India and other emerging nations are already onto advanced level studies, have that killer instinct to out-work their fellow students with the test scores to prove it. OTOH our 16 year olds spend all day on Instagram, Facebook and beg for money (albeit in novel ways) not to start a software business or to manufacture a new device but to fund leisure time activities or luxury.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

I under no circumstance expected people here to donate, I brought it here as I wanted opinions on it, which are all appreciated, I am hard headed, but I do listen, it just takes a lot of it haha.

Naw... you just expect us to buy your projects at a 23% mark up...

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

2000 Porsche Boxster auto

CELs are never that bad on these cars right? 02 sensor or something right? Could buy the car for 7.3k or so, fix the issue, sell it for around 9 here on the forum?

One day, your safety net isn't going to be there and offers like thstone's are only going to be a faded memory. If you take any of what's been said to heart, take this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4yd2W50No&feature=kp

And that's not about crowd funding, buying a car that you think you can repair and flip, or any of the "I'm already defeated so I'm not going to try," crapola -- like you said earlier in the thread.

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

Fair enough, but would you take the offer if you just had a ton of people say you can not even make a gofundme campaign. Which is fine, as I said, a very appealing offer for in a year or two when I can do it right.

Were it me and I had your so-called aspirations of being in marketing...? I'd have taken it, thrown myself into it and done nothing else but school (nah, you're on summer break, right?), any chores or help around the house I could provide for my family, and tried by best to prove the naysayers wrong. But that's me. And you are clearly not me or many of the others that posted here. Which is fine. So continue to post here your wild and crazy stuff. I mean you're averaging what? 140+ posts a month? That's over twice as many as me and I've been here since 2005. Ah well, enough of my yakking.



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