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Old 02-23-2006, 12:19 PM   #1
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Hi,

Sorry to hear of your troubles. But, I too must side with DP and Limoncello and say it sounds like a Classic Case of Hydro-Planing. Unforfunately, Hydro-Planing is always Driver Error. You exceeded the conditions you were in, can't blame the Car for that.

So far as the OEM Tires being inadequate, I disagree. These are all some of the Finest Performance Tires available. The issue is much more a matter of Tire Width.

The Boxster is a relatively light Car with pretty Wide Tires. With Wide Tires, you have a larger Contact Patch - Great for Dry Traction. But, you're exerting much less lbs./in.˛ with a Wider Tire than with a Narrower one, and this has adverse effects when driving in the Rain. Also, no matter how good the Water Channeling a Tire may have, there is always a limit to the amount of Water it can expel. Once this limit is reached, the Tire just climbs on top of the Water, loosing all contact with the road - Hydro-Planing. Add to this that your Tires harden with age, if your Tires are more than 2 years old, regardless of the Tread Depth, they will have hardened and have significantly less grip, especially in the Rain.

While the Boxster is all-weather capable, it is primarily a Fair Weather Car - that's what it was designed for and why the Tire Spec is so wide. If operating in other conditions, you need to adapt to those conditions. If you live and drive consistently in Wet Conditions, it may be wise to forego the asthetics and select a little narrower Tire. The upside is they are usually a little cheaper...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

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Old 02-23-2006, 12:28 PM   #2
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Here is a good, low-tech, article about tires from the recent Chicago Section PCA newsletter:

THE OWNERSHIP EXPERIENCE

from Loeber Porsche and Jack McCall

Pavement - The Surface To
Which Tires Should Stick
Unlike tracks that usually provide a
consistent surface; roads, especially
back-roads, have a tendency to
change surfaces. Warning signs will
not alert you as to when this may
occur. The changes will occur
abruptly and sometimes often.
This can be unnerving to the driver
who has just settled into a groove.

While the driver is providing the
proper amount of lateral acceleration
to plant his Porsche based upon the
amount of adhesion provided by the
current surface, the road suddenly
takes on all new characteristics. The
quickly changing parameters play
havoc with the safety margins.
There must be room for adjustment,
or it’s adios my friend.

Again, the worst case scenario
should be your guide. Rain may
cause hydroplaning, but a light mist
can be far more dangerous. If the
weather has been dry for a while,
the light mist will pull the oils out
of the pavement making the surface
as slippery as ice. A heavy rain
will actually wash the surface.
Hydroplaning is easily recognizable
in a Porsche. Slowing down will
solve the problem. The mist must
be dealt with the same way. Slow
down based upon intuition; the
abrupt warning provided by
hydroplaning just won’t happen.
Another scenario to consider is
that evaporation doesn’t occur as
quickly in the shade. As you go
in and out of sun light the surface
can change.

A couple of years ago I found myself
on AR 23, the “Pig trail”, and ran
into a light mist. Knowing that I
was about to give up traction, I
surrendered my pace. My assault
on this beautiful stretch of road
was spoiled, but both I and my
Porsche would survive to return
and avenge the loss. Sometimes
discretion is the better part of valor.
Remember, “Slick happens”.

Leaves, especially wet leaves, gravel,
oil, water, and different surfaces can
all contribute to the loss of traction.
You cannot wait until it happens and
then attempt to correct the situation.
It is essential to anticipate and make
concessions for inconsistencies that
can interrupt your forward progress
in a most despicable manner. Make
it a rule to expect the unexpected.
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Old 02-23-2006, 12:34 PM   #3
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I too agree!! Porsches or any car do not just take over and "do its own thing". When road conditions change then driving needs to change.

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