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particlewave 05-30-2014 07:02 PM

Haha! Sorry, been crazy busy lately. I actually have not done anything with this project since I first posted it.

steved0x was kind enough to donate a set of ambers to the cause, so I will go at them soon and post a DIY and show the finished product ;)

You could do it with sandpaper, but it would take a long time. The Dremel goes pretty darn quick, but could cause some serious damage to the headlight or your person if you're not extremely careful.


http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...F153EEC23E.jpg

particlewave 06-25-2014 05:15 PM

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I started by setting my depth to slightly more than 1mm (note the standoff/guide ring - this allows me to better follow the curves of the lens since the guide is much closer to the bit than the routers face).

particlewave 06-25-2014 05:38 PM

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I made horizontal passes, leaving strips of amber in place so that the routers guide had something to ride on.

Slow is the key. I set the Dremel to its slowest speed and made slow passes, advancing 2-3mm and retreating 1-2mm in in a push-pull motion in order to let the debris clear out. Too fast and the polycarbonate will melt instead of shaving away, clogging up your bit. Melting will also cause a divot.

2 tips;
1) use a thin lubricant like WD-40
2) use a sharpie to scribe guide lines (much easier to see)

particlewave 06-25-2014 05:42 PM

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Now we are left with horizontal strips. Mark each with a sharpie for better visibility.
Rest the front lip of the smaller router guide on the strip to maintain correct depth and remove remaining strips.

particlewave 06-25-2014 05:45 PM

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Amber is 90% gone.
Clean up any remaining amber by removing the Dremel from the router and using it directly on the lens (LIGHTLY).

Here you can see a couple of melt divots from my first pass (was going too fast). Luckily, they were not deep and I was able to blend them in.

particlewave 06-25-2014 05:46 PM

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Sand with a sanding block and 100 grit sandpaper to smooth everything out.

Once smooth, switch to 500 grit, then 1500.

particlewave 06-25-2014 05:48 PM

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Go from the 1500 grit straight to new UV coat (no polishing needed).

63 minutes for 1 lens, start to finish (including setup of tools, etc.).

What amber?!

Nine8Six 06-25-2014 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 407258)
Go from the 1500 grit straight to new UV coat (no polishing needed).

63 minutes for 1 lens, start to finish (including setup of tools, etc.).

What amber?!

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

(this is unbelievable, and a TOP quality diy)

BruceH 06-25-2014 07:23 PM

Wow, truly impressive Charles! Nice work:cheers:

Nine8Six 06-25-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 397323)
You guys are very ambitious

^ I can hear you giggling at me from here Charles lol

particlewave 06-25-2014 07:43 PM

Haha Fred!
I think I may be slightly this side of crazy, lol :)

This is not for the faint of heart, but for those on a budget, bored or just looking for something to do with that spare set of ambers, it is very feasible and not at all difficult. It is a little time consuming, but easily done on a day off.

The key phrase to remember is "Dont Rush!"
It can be done carefully in 2-3 hours (both headlights).

Thanks for the support, Fred and Bruce!

Top_Ramen 06-25-2014 07:57 PM

I'm so glad this was bumped back up. I tried this with 3 hours of tedious 60 grit sandpaper work:( and I'm still on the orange lens. I'll probably roll my sleeves up this weekend and give it a try with a dremel. Great step by step Particlewave!

nieuwhzn 06-25-2014 09:15 PM

Hi Charles.
That looks pretty good. How much did you have to take off?
I really don't like to take a Dremel tool to my headlight covers. I've worked quite a bit on Lucite etc. and the margin for error with anything that takes big chunks off at a relatively high speed is really small. It's easy to take a too big chunk out or to melt what you are working on. The trick is always to go slow and make sure your tool doesn't fill up with debris. I would strongly advice anyone who want to try this on their headlight covers to just go at it manually with a lot of #80 sandpaper and a lot of water first. Even using a belt sander can be pretty disastrous because of the heat buildup.
Still, it's good to know that the orange layer is on the top and can be taken off. Btw. can the corner pieces be done in the same way/

particlewave 06-25-2014 09:34 PM

As with anything DIY, proceed at your own risk. This is a proof of concept post.
Just take your time and wear the proper safety gear.
First of all, this does not take big chunks out but shaves off very fine shavings.
Secondly, advising someone not to DIY something seems a little odd to me. Would you also advise against someone working on their own car? Or maybe using any power tools at all? It's very easy and quite frankly, if someone is going to take an eye out or lose a body part doing something like this, they're going to at some point in their life, anyway :)

The amber corner trims are solid amber, so this will not work on them.

Here is a picture showing the difference in height between the corner trim and the new turn signal. This is barely noticeable in person and if you didn't know what I had done, you would never know the difference.

Of course you could always taper the edge of your new clear corner trims so that there is a smooth transition between the two ;)

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...DDB71CA63C.jpg

steved0x 06-26-2014 05:12 AM

Looking good!

particlewave 06-26-2014 08:06 AM

Thank you for donating these ambers for the cause, steved0x!!!

Troy.Boxster 07-06-2014 05:17 AM

Charles, you truly inspire me! Great work on these... and all your DIY projects. When I first got my Boxster (left to me by my dad), I thought that I was going to have to pay a premium for all service to the car. This forum and people like you have opened a new world to me wrt this car. I have usually done my own work on cars, but just didn't think it would be very feasible with a Porsche. Ha! I love how much information and experience is out there for us to fix, mod, update, etc. and how active the community is. Rock on!

steved0x 07-06-2014 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 407387)
Thank you for donating these ambers for the cause, steved0x!!!

My pleasure :)

BoxPaulie 09-04-2014 11:40 AM

Hi guys. Due to the great step by step by particleweave I thought I'd give it a go. I looked all over the internet for pictures till I found this forum, hopefully my images also help people decide to give it a go or not.

BoxPaulie 09-04-2014 11:46 AM

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This is the router tool I made for the dremel.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1409859936.jpg

BoxPaulie 09-04-2014 11:50 AM

It's tricky for sure, took me around 2 hours per lamp I would say.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1409860201.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1409860224.jpg

BoxPaulie 09-04-2014 11:55 AM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1409860441.jpg

Here is the difference between the two. After routing, sanding with a handheld mouse sander, going through the grit grades and finally cutting compound and then polish.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1409860460.jpg

I hope this inspires a few people. Now on to eBay to get the clear corner pieces!

Mark_T 09-04-2014 12:13 PM

Wow. That has to be one of the most impressive DIY's I've seen yet. Well done, great work! You are a brave man to tackle it.

I bet there's is going to be a bunch of people wanting you to sell them one of those dremel attachments you made.

Giller 09-04-2014 12:16 PM

The lights do look so much better de-ambered. My skill level isn't there yet - maybe some day I'll give this one a go. Or just keep watching ebay.

BruceH 09-04-2014 12:21 PM

Very nice work, Particlewave would be impressed:cheers:

Crono0001 09-04-2014 02:29 PM

Particlewave always does nice work. That's why he has my headlights.

mavis.d 09-05-2014 03:24 AM

Here's one I did earlier. For those who are not brave enough I am selling them eBay but also I open them up and paint the gold coloured reflector in the indicator. The corner infill is quite dark so I recently baked those as well and opened up to respray silver inside. If you do this be careful as they are very delicate

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1409916183.jpg

BoxsterPHD 09-05-2014 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mavis.d (Post 417235)
Here's one I did earlier. For those who are not brave enough I am selling them eBay but also I open them up and paint the gold coloured reflector in the indicator. The corner infill is quite dark so I recently baked those as well and opened up to respray silver inside. If you do this be careful as they are very delicate

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1409916183.jpg

Just thought I'd share some pics of the de-ambered pre-facelifts I bought from mavis.d recently. I'm happy with them :)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0...o/IMG_6412.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J...o/IMG_6408.jpg

particlewave 09-05-2014 12:40 PM

Excellent work Paulie! Very impressive! :D

Mavis - Your post dragged me out of semi-retirement.

1) nice work.
2) the turn signal shroud should be painted black in order to match the rest of the headlight (as is the case in OEM clears).
3) I'm a little surprised to see that you are not only trying to profit off of my DIY, but you also came here to advertise that fact. Seems a little un-cool, but whatever. :rolleyes:

Later Bros! Love, peace and hair grease! :cool:

gmboxster 09-05-2014 07:00 PM

I don't get it. Why de-amber ? What is wrong with amber lights ?

Mark_T 09-05-2014 09:03 PM

They are considered fugly by many owners. I swapped out mine for clears and I think it dramatically improves the look of the car. To each his own.

mavis.d 09-06-2014 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 417303)
Excellent work Paulie! Very impressive! :D

Mavis - Your post dragged me out of semi-retirement.

1) nice work.
2) the turn signal shroud should be painted black in order to match the rest of the headlight (as is the case in OEM clears).
3) I'm a little surprised to see that you are not only trying to profit off of my DIY, but you also came here to advertise that fact. Seems a little un-cool, but whatever. :rolleyes:

Later Bros! Love, peace and hair grease! :cool:

1) Thanks
2) Will try darker paint on the current batch
3) Just spreding Boxster for those who aren't brave enough or skill, tools etc to give it a go :)

BRAN 09-06-2014 11:19 AM

Now, how cool is that....LOOKS GREAT!!! :cheers:

Is there maybe an UV coating with a slight color tint in it, e.g. to match the gray corners?

BoxPaulie 09-11-2014 04:13 PM

Mavis.D do you have any photos and your process for opening up the lamps? I'm reluctant to try it incase I melt mine! Was hoping to open them up and paint the inner reflector. I think that DIY would go perfectly with the guide from particalwave.

mavis.d 09-12-2014 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BoxPaulie (Post 417947)
Mavis.D do you have any photos and your process for opening up the lamps? I'm reluctant to try it incase I melt mine! Was hoping to open them up and paint the inner reflector. I think that DIY would go perfectly with the guide from particalwave.

Hi particalwave has already posted a diy which includes a video how to open up the lights I found that I needs to cook mine for about twenty mins

Good Luck

David

Swhitcomb 11-12-2014 04:09 PM

Some one please do mine. :)

mipstien 02-16-2015 01:41 PM

I just came across this. As much as I've read about it, I want to assure myself that this is for the first gen cars? If so I'm starting this today because I'm snowed in for a few days.

particlewave 02-16-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mipstien (Post 436530)
I just came across this. As much as I've read about it, I want to assure myself that this is for the first gen cars? If so I'm starting this today because I'm snowed in for a few days.

Yes, first gen, pre-facelift.

Take your time and it will go easy. Remember, you can always take more off but you can't put it back. ;)

KRAM36 02-16-2015 02:24 PM

I want to get rid of the amber in here!

http://i58.tinypic.com/xqjmv4.jpg

particlewave 02-16-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KRAM36 (Post 436539)
I want to get rid of the amber in here!

http://i58.tinypic.com/xqjmv4.jpg

The soldering iron method works if you're careful, but it's much easier with the lens off ;)

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...73208F6466.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...18CD3E49A8.jpg


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