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It is an 03 Boxster. In my fav color, with the options I want. 75k miles on it. He is asking $8950. I have already talked him down to $8000!!
But, the problem is in the picutres. So the question is would you buy this car at a good price, and get the body work done, or look for something else? I would have to pay someone to do the work. Attachment 18398 Attachment 18399 Attachment 18400 Attachment 18401 Attachment 18402 . |
You are looking at a $3000 repair bill, easy. Probably more, depending on what the damage looks like underneath that front bumper cover where the radiators and condenser coils are.
I would probably pass on this one unless you know exactly what you're getting into. Personally, if I inspected it and found nothing more than body damage, I might pay $7k. |
I'd pass. Parts are way expensive.
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There might be more than just body work involved with repair. Behind the bumper are some other components like one of the condensers and one of the radiators.
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Could have bent the frame with an offset crash like that since it's not where the actual bumper is depending on angle.
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To make an informed decision, you need to take it in to the dealer and get an estimate on repairing the damage and a PPI. Then you can assess whether it is a good deal or not by looking at what it will cost you to put the car on the road. You have a local Porsche dis-assembler, Nineapart, that might be a good source for used body parts. (Or, I have a bumper cover from an '03, in silver, that we could negotiate a price on.)
No offense to you guys - I know that you all know your stuff mechanically on these cars, but this isn't the US market and prices are quite a bit higher for these cars in Canada. It looks like it has the potential to be a really good deal to me, although I would be doing the work myself for the most part. |
Here is a rough idea of what you are looking at. Had some free time at work today and wrote up an estimate for what I could see. Hard to be accurate with the pics but this is what I could see. I wouldn't worry about frame damage. Doesn't look to bad of a hit. It just adds up because its Porsche.
Also I know this estimate is based on a 2000 Boxster but it will get you in the neighborhood. Edit: As others said, I would bank on some hidden damages. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/9861396557285.jpg |
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Wow!! That's awesome!! Very helpful!! Thanks. |
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Bump that price up about 20% for Canadian dollars, then add gst/pst.
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PorscheBound, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Big kudos to you for that advice!
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Keep in mind that a good portion of the membership will freak out at a fresh rock chip, so asking if they'd buy a rebuilder may result in tainted answers.
Porschebound has given you a very good ballpark estimate. Mark_T's advice is spot on. My advice is how comfortable are you with a rebuilder? If you've done them before and had good luck, then by all means go for it. I'm a bit concerned that you'll have to have the work done for you. Then you need to find a quality shop to do the repair and it will cost you more. If you were able to do the work, then you could cross off the labor expense and you'd save some money. And how long do you plan to keep it? The longer you keep it, the easier it will be to sell it. But keep in mind when you go to sell it that you'll have to discount it. Many buyers won't even look at it if it's had a major repair. As I stated at the beginning, Porsche owners can be very particular. If you plan to repair it and then drive it for years to come, then you don't need to consider resale, but it's wise to look down the road a few yrs. A 2003 is a good model to buy since it has desirable options like a glass rear window and a glove box. It would be good if you can obtain a pic with the hood open and we can see if there's obvious damage to the inner construction. |
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Based on preliminary etimate by PorscheBound this maybe a good deal.
However, I would check a few more areas before deciding. 1. Is there any coolant leak and is the Temp Gage reading normal while driving? 2. Does the AC work and blows cold air? If it is blowing cold air I would check this again the next day or when exchanging money/title. 3. While driving does the steering wheel pull to the left or right? Do this test when you're braking too. BTW: PorscheBound that is truely a class act on your part. Thumbs up to you.:cheers: |
I would first focus on the rest of the car. Does it check out? Then if so, what would the price for a like model be without the damage? Then add the repair cost to the price for this one. How much are you saving by repairing it?
I would bet you could get that "adequately" repaired for less than $1500 (assuming NO damage other than what is visible). Unless you are saving a lot I would not mess with it. You could spend even more on mechanical/maintenance issues so don't completely fixate on the damage aspect. |
I think the going rate for an 02 with that many miles may be around $15K+ USD,
An accident of any kind regardless of repairs probably devalues it another $2K A repair like this spells UPGRADE time to a cooler new bumper style and Projector headlights so thats about 4K of repairs/upgrade. I'd say your OK at 8K if there are no surprises and up for getting the work done. Still get a PPI for the mechanical aspects in any case. |
I think the best deal is a cream puff that's been sheltered all it's life and seldom used. Keep looking.
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Sorry if this has been covered…..check the title and car fax. If it's a restored title reduse the value by 25-33%…in case you ever want to sell it….
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I had some crazy chick run a red light and rip the front end off my car. it was a little worse than that but the damage was completely cosmetic. it was around 6-7 grand including front quarter panel, hood, bumper skin, headlight and some plastic bits. plus of course paint.
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