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Perfectlap 03-06-2014 07:58 AM

Miles and dollars: Boxster ownership vs. first car
 
I thought this might be interesting, once you account for purchase price, upgrades to have it as you like, as well as all maintenace and unexpected repairs, and then divide by the mileage on the odometer that you've clocked yourself, how much has it cost you to run the Boxster so far?

I purchased my Boxster S with 10% of its current mileage already onboard so I'm guessing I should exclude this mileage.

I get 0.73 cents per mile.

My first car, a Honda, adjusting for inflation, cost me 0.12 cents per mile. Never broke down once. Paint was shiny all the way until the end.

OKCShooter 03-06-2014 08:00 AM

Wouldn't it be impossible to know cost of ownership without selling it? If you're including purchase price you'd have to include residual, right?

Perfectlap 03-06-2014 08:26 AM

I'm making the assumption that you will not sell it and it was not purchased as an investment
(But I personally believe anything purchased that can be sold is an investment of capital, just not for this one discussion).

For myself, I'm trying to determine if in the case of the Boxster, the cost of running it goes down over time or if the trend goes the other way.

PorscheBound 03-06-2014 08:31 AM

If I am understanding your calculation I have spent $6.66 a mile. With cost and upgrades I am about 20K into the car and put about 3k miles on it.

Perfectlap 03-06-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PorscheBound (Post 389773)
If I am understanding your calculation I have spent $6.66 a mile. With cost and upgrades I am about 20K into the car and put about 3k miles on it.

From this perspective it makes me consider if it's better to buy an older Boxster with light mileage but ample depreciation (because of the model year) to reduce the purchase price, vs. a newer Boxster with higher mileage, one that is closer to 'major maintenance' expenses territory, and a higher purchase price being from a newer model year.

Some people have said to me that I put too much money into the Boxster, but after a decade of ownership I'm doing the math and for a German car, on a mileage basis, it doesn't seem all that bad?

demick 03-06-2014 11:23 AM

I think you need to subtract out what you think you could sell the car for today. Otherwise your calculations do not make any sense, as your cost will always start out sky-high, and drop over time.
Example: purchase used car for $20K, drive it 1K mile in the first month. Cost per mile is $20 per mile. Continue to drive it 1K per month, and after a year your cost is now $1.66 per mile. That's a drastic difference when in reality, your cost per mile didn't really change much over that year.

Mark_T 03-06-2014 11:32 AM

I am NEVER going to add up all the money I've spent on this car. I don't want to know and I certainly wouldn't want that information to fall into the wrong hands.

Made that mistake once back when I was into competitive shooting. I just about choked when I realized what my annual ammo cost came to. 6 days a week, 4 hours a night...

jb92563 03-06-2014 11:39 AM

$1.60 per mile for the cost of the car plus my upgrades over my first 10,000 miles.

If we are talking operating cost I need to add fuel, insurance, fuel and licensing as well. Fuel $0.17 per mile, insurance + Lic $0.18 per mile

So in total $1.95 per mile.

Also works out to $1,053 per month for everything with unlimited miles.
Hmmmm, maybe leasing is better? :eek:

Of course the cost per mile shrinks if everything remains about the same and you're just getting more miles.

BIGJake111 03-06-2014 12:23 PM

My boxster is my firest car :D but i feel i would be in the green as all repairs have been virtually free with father working at the dealership and the fact i can easily resale my car for 2k or more over what i bought it for.

Perfectlap 03-06-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by demick (Post 389804)
I think you need to subtract out what you think you could sell the car for today. Otherwise your calculations do not make any sense, as your cost will always start out sky-high, and drop over time.

You mean kinda like paying interest on a mortgage. :D
Home sweet home.

This is where a car that claims to have good durability and build quality for such a high premium is proven. As we all know with these German cars cost of repairs do not scale down with time... so them parts need to last or your costs will always be pointing north. But no I'm not counting gas, insurance and gubimint fees, you're going to pay that no matter what you drive. Insurance costs were one reason I decided on going with a Porsche. In this state insuring a Porsche wasn't that much more expensive than insuring a new Accord.

RandallNeighbour 03-06-2014 01:00 PM

$1.32 per mile so far. 31k miles on the car since I bought it, $41k all in including purchase price and mods... only paid $15,500 for the car in 2004 ten years ago.

Wow. Just thought of something. I have driven the car from FL to TX, TX to NC to TX, TX to CA to NV to TX, and to the track and work on nice days... 3000 miles a year on average. That's not much considering all the cross country driving I've done in it.

Perfectlap 03-06-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 389816)
My boxster is my firest car :D but i feel i would be in the green as all repairs have been virtually free with father working at the dealership and the fact i can easily resale my car for 2k or more over what i bought it for.

Yes but you've unfortunately platteaued too soon! It's like the guy who used to live in a studio apartment where his ktichen and shower were in the same room that now loves his 20K square foot mansion with the private golf course, infiniti pool and six car garage (or the equivalent of a high school kid driving a mid-engine Porsche :D).
Versus the guy who only experienced the best right from the start, he's not going to be too impressed with much going forward. Was a Boxster the only car you've owned so far? Or did you have to start out with a beater for a few months?

jcb986 03-06-2014 01:54 PM

Who Cares
 
You own a man's toy. And as all toys, it's the fun of ownership and enjoyment. Now, the worst thing to own is a swimming pool.:ah:

Perfectlap 03-06-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jcb986 (Post 389833)
You own a man's toy. And as all toys, it's the fun of ownership and enjoyment. Now, the worst thing to own is a swimming pool.:ah:

My friend with a boat wants to trade with you. And my co-worker with a horsey also wants in.

Jamesp 03-06-2014 03:38 PM

$200/mile @ 400 miles. Now leaking coolant from the left radiator. Still fun to drive! New radiator and heater core in the works.

Perfectlap 03-06-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesp (Post 389838)
$200/mile @ 400 miles. Now leaking coolant from the left radiator. Still fun to drive! New radiator and heater core in the works.

Did the dash light go off or did you spot it on your own?

BIGJake111 03-06-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 389825)
Yes but you've unfortunately platteaued too soon! It's like the guy who used to live in a studio apartment where his ktichen and shower were in the same room that now loves his 20K square foot mansion with the private golf course, infiniti pool and six car garage (or the equivalent of a high school kid driving a mid-engine Porsche :D).
Versus the guy who only experienced the best right from the start, he's not going to be too impressed with much going forward. Was a Boxster the only car you've owned so far? Or did you have to start out with a beater for a few months?

My philosophy was that either A. Ill never own another and at least I can enjoy it while young (y'all have proven you never get too old to enjoy a car though) or B. most people only move up from their first car and many Porsche owners once they own one they will convince themselves to buy another down the road. So the insurance of catching the bug young is great. I practiced in the mothers 2010 Camry starting spring 2013 drove whatever else I had the chance (lots of jeeps and trucks from the fam, toss in an el camino) got the boxster late October 2013 drove with supervision untill late December and now I drive to school (when it doesn't rain) and frequently with supervision as apposed to without on the weekends to church or just to road trip. But yes the boxster is in everysense my first car.

RawleyD 03-06-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesp (Post 389838)
$200/mile @ 400 miles. Now leaking coolant from the left radiator. Still fun to drive! New radiator and heater core in the works.

Nice! I just replaced my left radiator this weekend, easy-peasy. Looked like mine took one too many low speed bumps in it's life time. Man, the bottom of my bumper cover is sooooo ugly... :rolleyes:

RawleyD 03-06-2014 06:20 PM

OK then, let's look at $$/mile. This should be interesting.
2000 Boxster S
Car 9500 after taxes.
Tires 450
Back up switch 25
Aftermarket rad 90
P-coolant 50
EDIT: almost forgot, really nice used oem headlight set, 250. old set was completely melted...

About to turn 5k miles. Driven weekly since August/2013

$ 2.02 / mile. EDIT after headlights, 2.07/mile


Subaru Legacy/ DD for 12 years
$24k new
maybe 2500 in repairs
few sets of tires 1500
about 160k on the clock

0.17 cents/ mile wow!
Of course the Subaru is a much rougher estimate.

But.. Driving the Legacy has never given me the type of thrills the Boxster has in such a short time. :)

Jamesp 03-07-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 389839)
Did the dash light go off or did you spot it on your own?

Spotted a puddle on the flooor and its actually $20, not $200!


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