the dual-row bearing is (by necessity) thicker and the cover is not as deep.

in the pics below the single row is on the left, dual row is on the right

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does Norway offer mechanical insurance when you buy regular auto insurance?
I think someone said Australia covers mechanical repairs when you insure a vehicle.

Thank you tonycarreon.

Insurancecompany covers engine/ tranny on cars up to 8 years.

I have never heard of this in Oz & I've been insuring multiple cars for over 30 years......

Will be headed back to SS Performance Hovedside | SS Performance
in 3,5 hrs to reset tranny and perform the last oilchange + filter. 100 miles each way. Stay tuned for more updates. Will the pan and oilfilter be clear of metal particles? I have a good feeling. And hey! I get to drive 200 miles in my beloved Box today, yay :cool:

Just came back from my 10000th. oilchange in 4 week at SSP, they also tried to fix the tranny but it's still not 100% right.. Probably needs a tranny flush. Will be doing that in october.

Anyhow... who woulda thunk this was possible in Norway in september :)

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The started emptying the oil that they put in a couple of days ago.. this was supposed to gather all of the metal partciles that might still be in the engine

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So far so good :D

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So I now know I'm in the clear that there are no more metal particles inside of the engine. The lid that sorrounds the oil filter was also checked for metal particles..

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Checking connectors for tranny. They were all fine.

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They also did a full scan of the car and cleared some old error codes (MAF.. has been replaced last year)

Here is a 996 owner, not as lucky as me.. a full rebuild needed. Complete engine:

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Great to hear! Looks like a perfect top down day! Looks like you dodged a bullet, congrats:cheers:

It was :) I´m hoping for many stressfree Boxster miles now ..

I have to correct you here. No balls are lost. There are two "washers"(?) / protective rings, before the balls. The first ring has been shaved, that is where the metal particles came from. The second ring is inctact. (I can´t remove any balls, from within the bearing housing, if I try)

You deserve it:)

Your car is going to be awesome!

You guys rock :D:D:D:D

It sure has been a bumpy ride and I have learned alot during this process. Hopefully, documenting my experience can help others in the future.

I did ask the main mechanic (you talk alot about Boxsters in two hours :D) if he backed my theroy that the IMS for the 986/987/996 is a Porsche design flaw and that at least 10% of all cars mentioned above will experience an engine failure due to the IMS.
He went further. He said ALL of the engines in these models WILL fail eventually :eek:
Sure, it is only a theory, BUT -this guy has replaced three digit IMS´s and rebuilt almost 100 Boxster engines, so he has seen his share of these engines..

It´s a disgrace that Porsche doesn´t admit the flaw and offer something in return. The same mechanic said he had a guy in with his 987 that had only did 23.000 kms, IMS explotion.... It had done alle services at Porsche Center Oslo (bought the car there also) and got JACK S**T covered. No warranty covered this...

Good news on your IMS replacement, and the post change oil filter pics look great. I am inclined to agree with the mechanic that they will all fail at some point, the only thing is when - 10 or 250,000? It appears Porsche took three cracks at the design, and finally gave up with the 2009 changes. However, in the world of automotive manufacturers, they almost never admit to a mistake. That could lead to lawsuits (of course, this one did!)

Best of luck. I hope it works out well for you.

The oil changes have washed out the loose metal fragments, but there are two things you still don't know. One: did the metal fragment score any of the vital engine parts (cylinder walls, bearings, etc.) before they were washed out in the oil flushes during the IMS repair? Two: have any of the metal fragment lodged in any of the lubrication channels that will lead to faster wear than normal? Hopefully, the answer to both questions is no.

Thom4782: Obviously. The mechanic gave me a good prognosis. But even he has to guess.

There is nothing more preventive jobs for me to do on this engine. I have decided to drive it and not thinking about it may og may not break at any time..

haz:

sorry if this has been posted prior, but did you go with the LN upgrade? a porsche / pelican bearing or jakes's imsolution?

It hasn't :) I actually forgot to mention it.

It is neither. SSP has their own patented edition. Ever heard of SKF?
Bearings, units and housings - SKFUSA.com/Products

They have used SKF bearing-technology into their own IMS bearing product. Reinforced all over. Supposed to be better than LN Engeneerings IMS bearing by miles.

SSP do all of their own rebuilds* and create reinforced products. Look at the engine for the 996 in my pics. It will be rebuit with all stronger material to avoid oval cylinders.

*Knut Grave, main mechanic at SSP, has rebuilt almost 100 Boxster engines and have seen his fair share of broken IMS. I imagine he has had that in mind when creating his on bearing product.

Congratulations Haz you have weathered the ims storm well. You have a great attitude. Cheers,G.

Damn guys! What a great place to hang out :D

if you dont show us pictures of your tits than yes it is a very good place to hang out ;)

very happy for you haz. but your story make me very nervous when I drive my boxster now. one little noise and I start thinking of you

I hope your boxster will completely rust before the engine die. like someone already said you deserve it. now go have fun

He he.. Thanks TAKART :)

Have you gotten a quote for upgrading you IMS bearing at an indy or your nearest Porsche Center? It´s easy for me to say this now, but upgrading the bearing is obviously an investment.

haz where I live nobody is doing ims work on porsche. I found out I have double row bearing in my boxster and the car is more then 130,000 so I feel better about that

haz I buy the boxster at the same price you change your ims bearing so in my case it dont make sense to change. I am changing the front bumper and headlights soon. brake pads and new tires already buy and then I stop spending on this car

Now doesn't that give a different slant on fitting an IMS retrofit....

According to TAKART in Lyon, the French Boxsters costs less to buy used than the cost of IMS bearing installation in Norway.....

In the UK (according to my latest 911 Porsche magazine) you can pick up an early Boxster for less than $4000 which is nearly the cost of a LN IMS bearing + clutch installation.
So why would you bother......

No matter what country, pricing any Boxster at $4k makes me frightened at what condition that car is in.. And yeah, I wouldn´t bother with the IMS upgrade eiter :)

I could not imagine what condition a $4000 Boxster would be in. It would likely need many $$$$$ to get it into reasonable shape. I know even used Boxsters take a hit in depreciation but a decent one should fetch way more than that. As an aside I notice where I live there are lots of used Boxsters for sale and are not selling and that is likely due to the time of year. Here most Boxsters are stored for the winter so there is not much demand right now. On the other hand there are few used Caymans for sale.

This is a good time to find and buy a used Boxster.

Proof positive that all is good in my Porscheworld :D

Out cruising on twisty roads in great fall weather with a fellow 986 forum member from Oslo this morning:

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my car was damage by a front colision in a truck rear. needed to replace the front bumper and left headlight and i am sure some small bend somewhere in the frame that is why i got the boxster for very good price. in france boxster 2.5 is $6000-$8000 with 100,000km with medium condition. anyway at this price i still dont know if good idea to change the ims

I've already bought 2 1998 Boxsters in the last couple of years. Both were 2 owner cars and each had about 117k miles at time of purchase. i paid $4,800 for the first and $5,400 for the latest one. No big issues with either car. Both had clear titles.

They're out there!

Suprising!

I guess we can shut down this thread for now. Unless anyone have any more questions.

Love the pic, nothing more fun than driving a Boxster!

Great chronicle haz, lots of great info.

He he.... good to know that these 11 pages aren't just 11 pages of "nag nag nag.. oh so many $$$ ..... poor me.... :mad:" etc...

:cheers:

If it was me I would have been bleeting like a sheep. This kind of thread did make me phone the lawyers re the Porsche Ims settlement. They got back to me within 24 hours and said my 2001 Boxster base was class but was put into service more than 10 years ago so no eligibility for past or future claim.

So I will soldier on with my IMS Guardian until next spring and look at a Cayman.
I don't want to spring for the 2009 or later as it is too much money(I am going back on my word!). Probably will be one with the ims still around 2007. Of course there is still the chance of ims failure but less so than my 2001. However the ims failure is one of many kinds of failures that the 986/987 can have but you know what - life is for living and you make the best of it. I could not imagine buying a new one or close to new and putting out that kind of cash. At my stage of life it is worth the price of admission to get used. I have driven other cars lately, Lexus, Mazda etc but none give me the buzz that the Box does...

Yes Haz you have made the best out of a bad situation. I don't think I would have done anything differently from what you did.:)

Wow! Didn't realize I had made such impact on some people here. Only glad I could help out.

Wish I could have joined you for the drive Haz. Even though I'm in Norway my Boxster isn't. I'll try to drop you a note sometime when I'm headed to Oslo.

Please do :)
My number is 93260060
Henrik

I think you had a great approach to your problem, kept your cool very well including dealing with undeserved comments from some of the "contributers", & I hope you continue to enjoy your Boxster. :cheers: