IMS Failure: The Truth is Out There - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Johnny Danger · 07-20-2013, 05:38 PM

In view of the recent class action settlement involving Porsche's culpability with IMS failure, I decided to do some investigating on my own. WARNING ! My findings are not for the faint of heart.

The highest percentage of IMSB failure seems to have occurred with M96 motors that were equipped with single row bearings. According to experts, Porsche began transitioning toward the use of a single row bearing almost exclusively in 2001. 2001 was the year that the World Trade Towers were struck by terrorists. Close surveillance of the scene just before impact showed several small, highly maneuverable aircrafts following the jet-liners. Furthermore, during my investigation, I discovered Top Secret reports that revealed - several dozen boxsters went missing in the aftermath of the destruction. However, these vehicles were never actually found. In addition, later that year intelligence reports linked the illegitimate son of Ferdinand Porsche, al Zabourah Porsche, smuggling small metal like bearings into Iran. Hmm ... coincidence ? I think not !

Ian c · 07-20-2013, 06:48 PM

Really ?

I thought the biggest question was why porsche designed a mid-engined sports car for the sole reason that dominos boys had a perfectly shaped heated rear trunk to keep the pizzas warm .....

It seems hardly worth it to target a demographic that small .
And yet the biggest boxster design flaw is that there is no roof to stick on the magnetic sign !!!

Considering Porsche own the company that design all the German folding metal roofs for SLKs etc. this is the bigger conspiracy .

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aclark133 · 07-20-2013, 06:59 PM

Speaking of the lawsuit, I actually got a notice in the mail. I have the LN IMS installed by the p/o. Am I entitled to any money?

Ian c · 07-20-2013, 07:27 PM

No of course not .

You cannot sue for something that MAY happen , nor are you entitled to recover any losses encoured as part of a preventative maintenance plan derived on the Internet by paranoid owners and snake-oil sellers .

This is not a safety recall ....

paintboy · 07-21-2013, 06:48 AM

IMS...Immediate Motor Suckage.....

My 1998 has 80K.....If I can find a local place to do it for under 2K, I'll do the swap out. Otherwise, I'm like a WWII Panzer tank captain, waiting for the $5.00 part to blow up...
:ah:

dbear61 · 07-22-2013, 08:01 PM

Maybe this belongs in Boxster Poetry thread.

An agent who lived near Nantuckett
Of the IMS Conspiracy said, "Fluck it!
"The secrets I'll leak
"That single row failures are peak
So Iran could tell Boxster owners to 'Suck it!'"

DBear

Daniel R · 07-23-2013, 09:23 PM

Wonderful piece of research, Johnny.

Where did you find the name "Zabourah"? You are either an Arabic speaker or have really done some serious research, something phonetically close to that in Arabic translates to a particular part of the male anatomy.

Hilarious!

manolo · 07-24-2013, 08:49 AM

Johnny is versed in many tongues, a requirement of his profession.

paulv · 07-24-2013, 09:07 AM

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Johnny is versed in many tongues, a requirement of his profession.

That's right -- just ask any of those girls in the pictures he posts!!!!

Regards,
paul...

DanNewton · 08-10-2013, 04:58 AM

73K miles 2006 Cayman S. Travelling in a straight line on a dry road at around 65mph, the vehicle's engine expired in a huge plume of coolant/oil. Flatbedded to a Porsche dealership, a technician using a boroscope found (according to the dealership) "scoring to #5 cylinder and evidence that a valve had hit the top of the piston. There was also a huge amount of metal debris in the oil filter." This was a result of something failing in the engine, rather than the cause of the failure. The Porsche dealership did not care to determine the cause of the failure. I suspect intermediate main shaft (IMS) failure. One year beyond certified pre-owned (CPO) warranty and $20K for a new engine.

recycledsixtie · 08-10-2013, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DanNewton

73K miles 2006 Cayman S. Travelling in a straight line on a dry road at around 65mph, the vehicle's engine expired in a huge plume of coolant/oil. Flatbedded to a Porsche dealership, a technician using a boroscope found (according to the dealership) "scoring to #5 cylinder and evidence that a valve had hit the top of the piston. There was also a huge amount of metal debris in the oil filter." This was a result of something failing in the engine, rather than the cause of the failure. The Porsche dealership did not care to determine the cause of the failure. I suspect intermediate main shaft (IMS) failure. One year beyond certified pre-owned (CPO) warranty and $20K for a new engine.

Sorry to hear about your car Dan....

Eric G · 08-10-2013, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by manolo

Johnny is versed in many tongues, a requirement of his profession.

He seems to be a cunning linguist!

Daniel R · 08-10-2013, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric G

He seems to be a cunning linguist!

Better than a Master Debator...

polkfarmboy · 08-10-2013, 07:12 AM

I came here to buy a porsche but this ims thing has me thinking

Johnny Danger · 08-10-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by polkfarmboy

I came here to buy a porsche but this ims thing has me thinking

Simply do the retro-fit and you'll be all set.

Hayden · 08-10-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by polkfarmboy

I came here to buy a porsche but this ims thing has me thinking

What year? Certain models have a less chance of this occurring than others.

haz · 08-10-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayden

What year? Certain models have a less chance of this occurring than others.

Do tell! Mine is a 2000 2,7L euro model

Hayden · 08-10-2013, 09:42 AM

Then you might have the dual row bearing, of which's failure rate seems correlated to maintenance/oil changes, and not the design itself.

Unfortunately, you have a 2000 model, during which (supposedly) the design was switched mid-production from single, to dual row. From what I can gather (correct me if I'm wrong, forum) the only way to know for sure on a 2000, is visual inspection.

FYI to everyone with 2001, and up, the lawyers that are handling the case have made this very easy now, with the latest "Class Vehicles" hooked into a database. Just enter your VIN. If it's not listed, you might have the dual row.

Class Vehicle VINs | Knapp Petersen & Clarke

derfo · 08-10-2013, 11:34 AM

I have just entered my VIN NO in, and it says mine is not a class vehicle. Can someone explain this? My Boxster S is a 2002. Is the bearing different in my car from those that have failed?

evan9eleven · 08-10-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by derfo

I have just entered my VIN NO in, and it says mine is not a class vehicle. Can someone explain this? My Boxster S is a 2002. Is the bearing different in my car from those that have failed?

Same here with my 2004 S. You and I both have ROW (Rest Of World) cars meaning those not originally destined for the USA. The lawsuit covers USA vehicles only, so thats probably the reason...