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Stop harshing my buzz, dude.

Yeah, for that price I'd Probably stay Porsche with a Raby 4.0.

ran into a newer (2012? 2013?) SS today on the highway and just like I said after my test drive it couldn't keep up with the 2.7 987

Not a huge lead but enough to be like wow, 426hp and you can't hang with 240hp?

even when the camaro started behind me, which should give him the advantage since the camaro could floor it a second before I could due to waiting for a vehicle to move, 987 still managed to out accelerate

but seeing how close it was I'm sure a 588hp ZL1 or 505hp Z28 would beat a stock 2.7 987 as it should with double the horsepower

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Originally Posted by 986_inquiry (Post 392912)

but seeing how close it was I'm sure a 588hp ZL1 or 505hp Z28 would beat a stock 2.7 987 as it should with double the horsepower

On unremarkable street tires the ZL1 beats the 997 T, the 997.1 GT3 RS, the 991S with PDK and many others.
On the Trofeos its taking down Ferrari Scuderias and probably coming within a second of an RS 4.0 at 1/5th the price.

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Originally Posted by perfectlap (Post 350976)

i actually have the opposite feeling. Gm/dodge sports cars can pretty much lay claim (so aslong the gtr isn't around) to fastest time at any race track on any continent. If it's not the viper destroying zee germans the corvette will come and finish off the rest. Now add this zl1 tank to the 'bargain bin' of sports cars that allow any fairly skilled weekend warrior to look like a porsche factory driver on the time sheets. In the case of the corvette and zl1 we're talking about pricing that can barely get you into a well spec'd boxster/cayman yet are matching the most expensive six fgure and up porsches. And forget about modifying those porsches to keep for just this kind of track abuse. You're into the nosebleed seats.

Style only counts for so much before you have to put up some laptimes that can justify some of these absurd prices we're seeing. And the kicker for me is the nonsensical warranty push back that porsche give their owners who venture onto the track, despite paying six figures and higher.
One of the gt3 group directors was quoted like saying something along the lines of "[a lot of guys buy these gt3's specifically to use on the track. That's not what these cars were made for....this is like a race car for the street, it was not intended to take that kind of abuse]"
strange, it sure is priced for that kind abuse.
Gm want their drivers to learn how to drive on the track, while porsche have been completely unambigous -- if your new, in-warranty engine goes kaput on the track, zee buyer is 100% responsible for all costs to replace their 24k gold engine.

this^^^^^^^^^

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Originally Posted by 986_inquiry (Post 392912)

Get serious...You are kidding yourself. Perhaps he was just being kind to your ego. I've had a new SS pull away from me in my 02S hard enough at 130MPH to make it look like I was braking. I thought we were neck and neck until he put his foot into it. The noise sounded like it was going to suck me out of the car. His car actually "squatted" under the acceleration from 125mph.

On a tight road with turns that must be taken at 70 or less, I bet you could lead as long as it does not open up to a straight for more than a few 100 ft.

Tomatoes Potatoes

I have been an avid Porsche owner for over 20 years now. I started with a 911SC graduated to a C2 Turbo and then bought 2 Boxsters, a 97 Supercharged and a 3.6 Conversion (for sale if interested). I still have the Boxsters and love them to death.

However, last year I bought a 2006 Pontiac GTO. It has a LS2 (400 hp). Is it a pig in the handling department compared to the Boxster, but overall, it handles well and is quite capable on the street. My solace is that for $5,000, I can get coil overs, tires, a great alignment and call it a day. However, that same $5,000 will not get you the 400 hp in a Boxster. So it's all about trade-offs and what YOU really like. I have just been fortunate enough that I can have the best of both worlds and I recognize two things; that the domestic market has A LOT to offer for any driver at any skill level, and the most important moving part of any car is behind the wheel!

My two cents.

Sorry...a pig with lipstick in my view. Drove one and it felt like a tank...I enjoy watching them understeer at the track and running off in the grass consistently. Man does not drive by the right foot alone.

Times are changing guys. I like the direction Chevy is heading with there cars.

2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 vs 2014 Nissan GT-R Track Edition! - Head 2 Head Ep. 52 - YouTube

I love cars. Here is a video of the 2014 Z28 at the Nurbugring. It is art, sound and vision.

Nurburgring Lap Times: 2014 Camaro Z/28 Tops Published Times | Chevrolet - YouTube

The new Z28 is BAD!! Beat the GTR track edition and the 991 Turbo S (on conti's not the ultra summer treads) around the track, but (not) surprisingly enough they beat it on the dragstrip. I guess launch control helps!

Cue the new stereotypes- Those foreign cars are only fast in a straight line, only American cars can turn!!

leave it to 986_inquiry to come around with another racing story :)

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Originally Posted by Wilson01S (Post 398274)

What he said ^^^^

I have a 2002 Boxster and a 2006 Lotus Elise, I tracked the Lotus and use the Boxster as my DD six months out of the year. I love both cars dearly but I'm not afraid to admit that they're not the fastest cars on the street or on the track.

Here at my local track their two guys with Zo6's one is a 2006 and I think the other is a 2007,these cars simply dominate the track their both stock cars with the exception of R compound tires and racing brake pads.

Any one who says these cars cannot handle or are pour on a track, are simply naïve or are living in self-denial.