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Ian c 07-05-2013 07:54 AM

Sun visors ...
 
Why do all the passenger sun visors seem to have the flap broken off ??

I've been looking on eBay for one recently and seem to be having trouble finding one .

I even contacted a seller about the pair they had as th pictures looked to have both flaps broken off , they assured me both where there but when I asked for additional CLEAR photos they said they could not as they where already packed ready to ship out !!! :rolleyes:

mistermac99 07-05-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian c (Post 350395)
Why do all the passenger sun visors seem to have the flap broken off ??

I've been looking on eBay for one recently and seem to be having trouble finding one .

I even contacted a seller about the pair they had as th pictures looked to have both flaps broken off , they assured me both where there but when I asked for additional CLEAR photos they said they could not as they where already packed ready to ship out !!! :rolleyes:

Mine was missing when I made an offer on the car from a local dealership. I asked for it to be replaced as part of the offer. They ordered it and some other stuff, and asked me to come back about a week later. I imagine they got it directly from Porsche. They are proabably not very expensive, I would imagine. Have you checked Pelican Parts?

Dgnarvs 07-05-2013 01:21 PM

First repair I made! Got replacement sun visors from Suncoast.

EssexPorsche 07-05-2013 01:25 PM

Sunvisor Delete!
Get rid- there is a kit to replace the stubs.

More sky, less weight!
Win. Win

Ckrikos 07-05-2013 01:33 PM

I still have mine.

patssle 07-05-2013 02:36 PM

My dad broke it off before we even owned the car! Was looking at it and... oops. I ended up buying the car so no biggie. Still haven't gotten around to replacing it.

reiver 07-05-2013 03:18 PM

Both the flaps are broken off of mine, so I blind people driving lifted trucks with the Mirror/Sun for fun....

Dgnarvs 07-05-2013 03:54 PM

Why is it so fragile?!

Car came with the driver side flap broken. Then the wife promptly broke the pax side on her first ride!

Ian c 07-05-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mistermac99 (Post 350439)
Mine was missing when I made an offer on the car from a local dealership. I asked for it to be replaced as part of the offer. They ordered it and some other stuff, and asked me to come back about a week later. I imagine they got it directly from Porsche. They are proabably not very expensive, I would imagine. Have you checked Pelican Parts?

I use pelican parts ....
Every time I need a part I check there website , alas 9 times out of 10 it is cheaper/better to use my local Porsche dealer ;)
I think today's minor purchase at my local dealer was around 50% more expensive at pelican ....
They had it as a stock part and within 2 hours my car locks again :D


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I also have a very interesting bit of information should any of you tip owners ever need a multifunction switch :D

However , I really should try both for a replacement visor .
I will do that tommorrow .

aussieboxy 12-22-2013 02:49 PM

Does anyone have a fix for replaceing the flaps without replacingthe whole visor?

Timco 12-22-2013 04:38 PM

When I bought my Box in long beach I stayed about 4 blocks from Circle Porsche! They had a CGT.

linderpat 12-22-2013 04:55 PM

what drives me crazy is that the visor does not swing to the side position. Can't block the sun from the side:mad:

heliguy 12-22-2013 06:32 PM

My sister broke mine on her first ride in the car. I just glued the cover back on. Drivers side broke about a year later, I glued that one also, I already know how ugly I am.

heliguy 12-22-2013 06:49 PM

Does anybody have a link for Pelicans Visors?

Deserion 12-22-2013 07:04 PM

I need a new passenger visor since mine, too, lost the lid. :rolleyes: And I hardly have passengers.

KevinH1990 12-22-2013 08:37 PM

You can order just the vanity mirror and cover. The part number is 986-731-903-00-01C. I ordered mine from Sunset Porsche. The cost is (I hope you are sitting down) $86.83.

I almost left it like it was, but it bugged me too much. I tried glue, but it just broke again.

heliguy 12-23-2013 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinH1990 (Post 377868)

I almost left it like it was, but it bugged me too much. I tried glue, but it just broke again.

I meant that I glued it shut.

BirdDog 12-23-2013 11:36 AM

I was wondering if anyone has tried using the flap (mirror cover) from the non-illuminated mirror housing to fix their illuminated mirror housing flap?

On Pelican, it's about $36 for the non-illuminated housing versus $99 for the illuminated one.

If the flaps are the same, I'd rather buy a non-illuminated one and just swap the flap over.

BYprodriver 12-23-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BirdDog (Post 377957)
I was wondering if anyone has tried using the flap (mirror cover) from the non-illuminated mirror housing to fix their illuminated mirror housing flap?

On Pelican, it's about $36 for the non-illuminated housing versus $99 for the illuminated one.

If the flaps are the same, I'd rather buy a non-illuminated one and just swap the flap over.

I think it lacks the contact strip that turns on the light when you open the lid.

particlewave 12-23-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by heliguy (Post 377902)
I meant that I glued it shut.

Hahaha! :D

I'm thinking of using small magnets, but my passenger flap is missing so I may as well replace them...must do a swivel mod. I need to be able to turn it to the side.

golonaus 12-23-2013 03:09 PM

where do I find visor delete kit?
they are useless anyway

BrokenLinkage 12-23-2013 10:03 PM

@Bird- yes I did this for one of my mine, works fine, takes a little persuasion but the new plastic easily tolerates the bending force.
Funny thing is, mine was doing fine until I read about this problem on 986 forum, went to inspect mine more closely and busted the thing!

BirdDog 12-24-2013 05:07 AM

@BrokenLinkage - Thanks!

BirdDog 01-14-2014 11:45 AM

Ok, verified.

I purchased a non-illuminated visor mirror assembly from Pelican and the flapper (mirror cover) is physically identical to the illuminated one (including the tab that actuates the lights). The warning sticker is slightly different (says the same thing just in a different format).

I had to cut one of the pivot pins on the new assembly to remove the flapper after I wasn't able to muscle it off. Installation of the new flapper was simple - I just set it flat over the mirror and pushed down over the pivot pins - it snapped right in.

Dlirium 01-14-2014 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by linderpat (Post 377841)
what drives me crazy is that the visor does not swing to the side position. Can't block the sun from the side:mad:

LOL, you are driving a convertible!

heliguy 01-14-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdDog (Post 380952)
Ok, verified.

I purchased a non-illuminated visor mirror assembly from Pelican and the flapper (mirror cover) is physically identical to the illuminated one (including the tab that actuates the lights). The warning sticker is slightly different (says the same thing just in a different format).

I had to cut one of the pivot pins on the new assembly to remove the flapper after I wasn't able to muscle it off. Installation of the new flapper was simple - I just set it flat over the mirror and pushed down over the pivot pins - it snapped right in.

How much did you pay for it? Do you have a part number?

BirdDog 01-15-2014 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by heliguy (Post 380966)
How much did you pay for it? Do you have a part number?

The part number from Pelican was: OEM-9867319010101C (listed in the parts catalog as 986 731 901 01 and 01C indicates the color is black) and it cost $36.50 plus shipping.

Kinda pricey for just a cover, but then when you consider that it's for the whole non-illuminated mirror assembly (housing and flapper) I guess it's not too bad.

If you don't care about illumination or if either of the pivots (part of the housing assembly) broke off, you can remove the original illuminated housing (and either remove or cap off the red and black wires that provide power to the mirror lights) and install the non illuminated one in it's place. The external dimensions are the same but the internal design of the housings are different - you can't swap the lights over to the non-illuminated housing.

heliguy 01-15-2014 05:37 AM

I want my original illuminated mirror, is the cover you referenced a direct swap?

linderpat 01-15-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dlirium (Post 380958)
LOL, you are driving a convertible!

:) I know, but the height would still be perfect it swang out to the side, just to block the morning sun on the way into town each day. Other convertibles have it.

BirdDog 01-15-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by heliguy (Post 381064)
I want my original illuminated mirror, is the cover you referenced a direct swap?

Yes, at least it was on my 2001 S.

jb92563 01-15-2014 09:36 AM

I have 2 broken visor covers and a 3D Printer so I will eventually try printing out a pair once I create the 3D model.

While I am at it I may as well Emboss "Porsche" or "Boxster" on those visor mirror covers as well and fix the problem
that causes them to break in the first place. :D

Perhaps a couple tiny strong Neodium magnets instead of plastic hinge pins/sockets.

Hmmm, I just reread that above sentence and realized that I could just replace the hinge with magnets and
use the original broken flaps and fix them with about 5 minutes of dremel/glue work... eureka!!!

Off to order some tiny Neodium magnets.

particlewave 01-15-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jb92563 (Post 381100)
I have 2 broken visor covers and a 3D Printer so I will eventually try printing out a pair once I create the 3D model.

While I am at it I may as well Emboss "Porsche" or "Boxster" on those visor mirror covers as well and fix the problem
that causes them to break in the first place. :D

Perhaps a couple tiny strong Neodium magnets instead of plastic hinge pins/sockets.

Hmmm, I just reread that above sentence and realized that I could just replace the hinge with magnets and
use the original broken flaps and fix them with about 5 minutes of dremel/glue work... eureka!!!

Off to order some tiny Neodium magnets.

I did the magnet thing last week. Works great and no more dangling flap! I'll get some pics at some point.

jb92563 01-15-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 381102)
I did the magnet thing last week. Works great and no more dangling flap! I'll get some pics at some point.

What sort of glue did you use to attach them to the plastic?

They are so shinny I'm thinking they need the glue side sanded a bit first.

I'm going to use the magnets to replace the actual hinge on the mirror cover and then one to hold the mirror cover shut.

This way if you accidentally Jam the flap it will just fall off instead of breaking the hinges again.


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FYI: I also found this

Visor Mirror Flap Won't Stay Up

Diagnostic: The sun visor mirror flap won't stay up.

Cause: Adhesive loosened on metal clips that provide friction on the hinges of the mirror flap.

Details: When the adhesive loosens, the clips slide out of two holes in the assembly and no longer provide the friction necessary to hold up the flap.

Time in Shop: Five minutes

Repair Instructions: For the dealer to fix them under warranty they need to follow the directions in the Porsche technical bulletin labeled Improved Sun Visor Mirror Cover [grp6 1/98 6823 5/14/98].

For you to fix them, you need to pop the mirror encasement out of the sun visor. There are four plastic lips that hold it in place. Take a small screwdriver and carefully pry the mirror encasement from the sun visor. It should just pop out.

Once you pop the mirror encasement out of the visor, you should find two U-shaped clips. Be careful as the metal clips may fly when you remove the mirror encasement from the visor. If you don't find two, shake the visor around. If you hear something moving, it is likely the clip stuck in the innards of the plastic of the visor. Keep shaking it around until they fall out.

Take the metal clips and place a drop or two of super glue on them. Force the clips back into the holes where they belong with the tapered part of the clip with the "nubs" on it back into the hole and the flat part against the mirror cover hinge. You can use vise-grips to gently hold the clips in place for about five minutes until the super glue dries. You should probably protect the visor from the vise grips with something so it doesn't leave marks.

particlewave 01-15-2014 12:29 PM

Well, I have some experience using neo mags to keep hatches closed from my days of RC flying. I've never found an adhesive that will adequately hold them in place against their own strength. I'll have to get some pics to clarify, but basically I used a dremel with a routing type bit to carefully thin the plastic on the back side so that the magnet could be mounted behind the plastic. You have to get the plastic fairly thin in order for the magnetic force to hold, but it was pretty simple.

I'll get some pics ASAP. (helping my gf move this week...argh!)

scottvd 01-15-2014 12:35 PM

No to hijack or anything, buy do you guys know where I could find the sun visor delete parts? All my searches came up empty.

BirdDog 01-16-2014 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scottvd (Post 381146)
No to hijack or anything, buy do you guys know where I could find the sun visor delete parts? All my searches came up empty.

Sorry, I haven't seen anything either.


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