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ATD vs GAHH
All right guys, I finally found an reputable installer to put on my top for a reasonable $600, but now i'm trying to decide on a manufacturer. I want to pull the gun on this in the next few days.
I plan on putting a glass window with a black top , and have heard good things about the GAHH tops, but with shipping and taxes, the non-acoustic will run over $900 bucks. I could get the AutoTopDirect with the same specs for under $600... Question. is it the same top with just different warranties? The pics of the top on the website are of the same car! Customers service won't comment on who makes the tops. |
I'm thinking of changing my top soon too. It is very confusing between gaah, atd, robbins and ez on. Gaah is the most expensive but same warranty with robbins and ez.
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not to thread jack but what I'd like to do is buy an 03-04 frame from a front end wrecked Boxster and have the installer cover the old frame with a new aftermarket top ... without it costing an arm and a leg.
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I bought mine off ebay from topsonline.com. I was very happy with the quality. Can't comment on the others.
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I just recieved an email 2 weeks ago from a dismentler. $1800+300 for shipping. You can have it if you want :( |
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i have the GAHH A5. |
I already stated I noted the difference in the warranties, but is that all? I doubt I will have the car for much more than 5 years, but I do need a new top now regardless.
I saw an earlier post in rentech where someone mentioned that their ATD purchased arrived in a GAHH box and wonder if anyone else has any input about that. Also, it looks as if the rear window bonding has changed a bit since some of these old post. |
Don't know about ATD and their service, but GAHH is who I went with and hands down it was a great decision. Following Mike's instructions the install was easy and I had it done in an evening. Holes were punched in the exact spot where needed and seams and straps were spot on.
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I purchased my glass top from a seller on ebay
for $460 shipped. They were closing them out. I received instructions with it indicating it was a GAHH top as well as paperwork indicating it was a Robbins top. IMO there is really no difference between them and I would guess that they are all manufactured in the same place and sold to several different retailers that market them as different products.
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Unfortunately most Box owners have experience with only one replacement top so difficult to compare. I went with GAHH on the recommendation of member "Schoir" who I believe in an east coast installer. Very satisfied. I probably could have found a quality top for a couple hundred less but in the end... I don't really care that much. I got exactly what I wanted at a fair price. The car looks great and no more Boxster chop. :cheers:
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I went with tops online, EZ on brand with glass. Excellent quality. Installed myself. Never istalled one before so the learning curve was steep. About 10 hours but could do it in 6 if I had to do it again. I'm in the minority here but, if I were to do it all over, I would have went with the original vinyl window only because I want better access to the engine.
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Installed from EZon from autotops too, great quality, german A5haartz,it took me 10-12 hours to install, but took some documentary pics while installing, not a easy task but next time it will be much easier.
I live in Norway, and installing from a dealer with top/glas would cost me about $ 3500....insane price..... So i ordered from ebay, total cost $ 600 with parts and lots of reading......:) |
Auto tops direct is a store front for GAHH. Robbins and GAHH is owned by the same company. I prefer installing GAHH. I have been using them for many years. Lifetime warranty for glass bonding is from GAHH only. Labor installation is $400.00.
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I just recently put an ATD top on my 2000 and the quality is top notch. Had it installed by a professional installer (who actually said he'd install my top but wanted to sell me a GAHH). I actually got compliments on the quality of the top and the ease of install from him. It's holding up great and the glass window is such a HUGE upgrade! Not knocking GAHH, just giving a +1 for the ATD.
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All right, pulled the gun on the ATD German A5 top with glass window. Out the door at $629.00 shipped with tax, about $200 dollars cheaper than the GAHH top. Ordered it on Monday and got it on Wed.
The installer was more than a little annoyed by GAHH, as his cost for the GAHH top is $9 more than what I paid for the ATD, even though the top is clearly the same, and shipped from the same N. Hollywood address. The longer warranty is nice, but not $200 nicer. I post some before and after pics after its done. All these upholstery places have a long waiting list for work and probably won't get it squeezed for a week or 2. |
Good to hear! I need to talk to the installer that I spoke to, to see if he will do the ATD top. Glad to hear it is the same as the GAHH. What are they charging? The installer I spoke to wants $550 to do the GAHH. I am looking forward to your pics.
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My installer would only install a Robbins or GAHH top, so I did as much research as I could a took a little bit of risk ordering from ATD in hopes that everyone was right about them ATD and GAHH being the same.
The installer took a look at it, and with the exception of a big sticker on the front of the box saying "Sierra tops" (covering up a GAHH logo?) he said they were identical, right down to the packaging. He's gonna charge 600 bucks, which is about 200 less than every other installer in a 20 miles radius. |
ATD vs GAHH
Ok, got the top installed last Thurs, installer did a decent job. I noticed the defroster is much less prominent than on the older versions. Haven't put the top down as of yet per the one week wait time as instructed, which sucks as the weather has been in the 70's all week.
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So what do you think of the quality of the top? It looks great!:cheers:
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ATD vs GAHH
I got the A5, so the material is OEM, and the new glass window is awesome. I forgot what it's like to use the rear window when parallel parking!
It came with the wiring harness and no longer has the weird defroster lines on the side visible like the older versions. The defroster is super efficient and defrosted my window in just over a minute the other night. I also didn't realize how faded old top was, as the new one is super black compared to my old one. . |
Thanks. I plan to get the A5 material in Metropol Blue.
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would you be kind and post the link to the place you bought it?
i found this one, but its $50 more then what you paid. Boxster Glass Window Upgrades thanks. |
That's where I was planning to get mine.
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here is one link: 1997 thru 2002 Porsche Boxster & Boxster S (986)
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if ATD is actually GAHH product, this means GAHH controls almost all 1997-2002 986 glass window replacement top.
They acquired Robbins in 2011. So EZ On is the only one that is not owned by GAHH? News: January 24, 2011 – Argenta Partners |
ATD installed today
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couple of local installers work with gahh, but don't use atd. one of them claimed that the atd ones don't fit corrected, cause problems, and despite the return guarantee atd doesn't honor it after the installer's worked with it.
based on information here, i'm pretty convinced they are the same product and same company (sounds like robbins and gahh are now co-owned, and that sierra may be owned in gaff), but i have a few questions: 1. folks here talk about the guarantee being different, but it appears atd does have a lifetime guarantee on the glass seal, not just 5 years. 2. does anyone have experience with the a5-ds with the upgraded high level acoustic coating (that only comes in the black top)? does it really add anything like the haartz site claims? 3. is the defroster wire harness kit compatible with 1st gen pre-2003 boxsters? |
Since this thread is discussing conv tops, I could use some help with a new top installed.
Please see: http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/44924-new-convertible-top-gap-b-pillar-advice-pease.html |
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They are one and the same. Google the address, they are the same, and my installer who deals only in GAHH or Robbins, said the ATD was exactly the same (although $200 cheaper).
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still wondering if anyone can vouch for the acoustic superiority of the A5-DS product. anyway, i'll be ordering mine soon. |
Which tops are best for reduced wind noise? Thanks
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In addition to my noise question. Is the Haartz A5 that much better than the Stayfast? I'm finding the A5 is $359 and the Stayfast is $299 on Ebay. Thanks!
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