Would you have gotten PDK if they offered it on the 986?

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

While not an issue while the car is under warranty, the gearbox costs over $18K sitting on the floor in a crate...

An out of warranty Porsche with PDK and high mileage will be avoided like a Cadillac Allante...Track guys don't want them, folks with modest budgets can't risk buying them. An already small universe of brave Porsche buyers gets even smaller. Resale prices drop severely due to higher supply than willing demand.

I see a niche business of shops stock piling whole PDK transmissions from wrecked Porsches.
shop:"Need a reubuild? I got a take-off from a 2009 right here for you... I'll sell it to you cheap."
Me: " uhhh what's cheap?"
them: "cheaper than that rebuild!".

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

shop:"Need a reubuild? I got a take-off from a 2009 right here for you... I'll sell it to you cheap."
Me: " uhhh what's cheap?"
them: "cheaper than that rebuild!".

That is the entire problem, there is no rebuild; they won't sell you parts, and the process requires more special fixtures and tooling than an engine rebuild. And I don't see that changing, as they are not the only OEM that won't let anyone touch the SMG transmissions..................

[WhipE350]

Hum that low mileage 2008 with Tip I'm looking at is looking a lot more appealing

[ekam]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

That is the entire problem, there is no rebuild; they won't sell you parts, and the process requires more special fixtures and tooling than an engine rebuild. And I don't see that changing, as they are not the only OEM that won't let anyone touch the SMG transmissions..................

That's not a problem because, what, 90% of all the new Pcar owners lease their vehicles? What kind of crazy people would buy a Porsche anyway?

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by ekam

That's not a problem because, what, 90% of all the new Pcar owners lease their vehicles? What kind of crazy people would buy a Porsche anyway?

I rather doubt the validity of that number; far more of my clients own theirs, particularly as retail leases are such a financial losing proposition…….

[pothole]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

An out of warranty Porsche with PDK and high mileage will be avoided like a Cadillac Allante...Track guys don't want them, folks with modest budgets can't risk buying them. An already small universe of brave Porsche buyers gets even smaller. Resale prices drop severely due to higher supply than willing demand.

I see a niche business of shops stock piling whole PDK transmissions from wrecked Porsches.
shop:"Need a reubuild? I got a take-off from a 2009 right here for you... I'll sell it to you cheap."
Me: " uhhh what's cheap?"
them: "cheaper than that rebuild!".

Only slight problem with your theory is that PDK uptake on the 911 in Europe is up around 90% now. It's a tragedy, but it's true.

I suspect a cottage industry will spring up to make money repairing PDK boxes.

The very few manual cars will probably be worth more in 20 odd years time. But I don't think the PDK cars will be exactly hurt in terms of values.

Anyway, I can't stand PDK. I wouldn't bother with sports car if I had to drive an auto. Would simply slink about in a six-pot W124 Merc and find a different hobby for thrills.

[j.fro]

When I bought my car in 2006 I knew it would eventually become a street legal race car (no trailer). In 2009 I got the chance to drive a new 911 s with sport chrono PDK. The PDK does everything I wish I could do, better than I ever will, with dead on consistency. In autocross, fastest time of the day often comes down to hundredths of a second. I wish I had the PDK!

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by j.fro

In autocross, fastest time of the day often comes down to hundredths of a second. I wish I had the PDK!

anyone who can't manage one upshift from 1st to 2nd on their lonseome doesn't deserve a $5 plastic trophy from China!

[ChrisZang]

Originally Posted by j.fro

When I bought my car in 2006 I knew it would eventually become a street legal race car (no trailer). In 2009 I got the chance to drive a new 911 s with sport chrono PDK. The PDK does everything I wish I could do, better than I ever will, with dead on consistency. In autocross, fastest time of the day often comes down to hundredths of a second. I wish I had the PDK!

+1 on that

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by pothole

The very few manual cars will probably be worth more in 20 odd years time. But I don't think the PDK cars will be exactly hurt in terms of values.

At first PDK out of warranty cars will follow typical depreciation, nothing out of the ordinary, then as the mileage on these start to climb people will start getting burned on PDK repair bills.

With Porsche forums on every smartphone and tablet, stories of $10-$18K transmission repair bills will accelerate the pricing nose dive.
If you thought the IMS got a lot thread clicks wait until this new fangled PDK experiment approaches its sell by date. These Porsches will become like those once super expensive $120K Merc 600's that can now be had for cheap but no one dares go near them. Repair costs do not scale down with sinking resale and Porsche seem to like building things that are hard to take apart. Aint offering super discounts in their parts depts anytime soon either. Porsche is slowly becoming Merc.