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Old 09-14-2005, 08:11 AM   #1
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I would take a Cayman over a 997 anyday. I love the styling (I actually prefer coupes). The Cayman reminds me more of a classic 911 with flares. I think the Cayman is going to be a much better balanced car (the Boxster already is) than the 911.
As for target audience and limiting the racing, shot in the dark! Porsche is about racing. It's where they built their reputation. It's also hard to argue with Porsche because in all the major racing events (i.e. LeMans, Daytona) they win with the 911. So why change. Target audience I think will be more people like myself. I don't purchase a Porsche just because of the badge. I purchase it because of the performance pure and simple. I drove a 996 back to back with a Boxster. It was VERY aparent to me that the Boxster was better balanced when pushed. That is what I like, balance. The Cayman is going to give better control at the limit vs. the 911.
If you want to see what the Cayman can really do to the 911 given the proper horsepower, wait till Ruf puts a 400hp GT3 engine in it and then see what happens!
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Old 09-14-2005, 09:58 AM   #2
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Maybe we're over-reaching. Could it simply be that there is a niche market for hardtop boxtsers? The sales numbers may be low, but the cost to adapt a box to a cayman is also low. Porsche normally does its homework - if they can invest a modest amount in development, sell enough to cover the costs and leave some profit on the table, and satisfy yet another constituancy - then it's a winner, even if the numbers are small. Plus any new model gets written up in the media = free advertising.
On a personal note, can't wait till there are 5-10 year old caymans to buy cheap and race, but that's just me.
Last - agree with the comment that it needs another name. Need a Name the Car contest. Feel free to submit -
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Old 09-14-2005, 10:28 AM   #3
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I second the name change. Cayman? I'd like to see them go back to numbers. What's wrong with 986/7 for Boxsters, and 987SC for the Cayman?


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Old 09-14-2005, 10:34 AM   #4
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yes I agree the R&D of producing an all new coupe must have been low for Porsche. Which is why I think the next flagship Porsche will be derived from
the Boxster.
Are Porsche going to continue with a rear engine car into perpetuity?
Are they going to go through all the time and expense to come up with a third
rear engine car? I don't think so.
The Panamera will not be in the price range to replace the Carrera,
which leaves:

A) Rear engine: Continue with an outdated config.
B) Mid engine: Develop the Boxster>Cayman>?
C) Front engine: all New Porsche coupe? (with back seats of course)
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:08 PM   #5
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Hey Perfectlap:

Where did you see the Cayman power slide clips?

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There is no beating a mid engine car.
I saw clips of the CaymanS on the Nurburg Ring in full power slide.
This is a Porsche for the purist.
Can't wait to see what RUF does with it.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:42 PM   #6
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The flagship for Porsche is clearly the 911. There are many reasons why this is but I can tell you the main one is MARGIN!


I don't see that changing in the future nor do I see them going away from the rear engine drive mode for the 911.

I am not defending the strategy, simply predicting.
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:38 PM   #7
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About name, in my humble opinion Cayman sounds more nicer that a pair of boxers, oh sorry Boxsters.
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The flagship for Porsche is clearly the 911. There are many reasons why this is but I can tell you the main one is MARGIN!


I don't see that changing in the future nor do I see them going away from the rear engine drive mode for the 911.

I am not defending the strategy, simply predicting.
It is what it is if anyone has not gotten it wake up! It is a 911 centric hub in Porsche. Essentially their marquee car is the 911 which is overpriced and the profits are huge due to the big profit margin on the car. It is the cash cow of the company that pumps money for the other products and racing programs. All the other vehicles are the gravy for the company.
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:44 PM   #9
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do not forget that actually success of Boxsters took a Porsche from a financial crisis. So we all should be proud that we save porsche from a car giants like FIAT, not 911.
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