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ProjectM96 05-15-2012 06:10 PM

Do you lowered guys have problems?
 
I just lowered my car 1 inch with lowering springs.

It rubs when I turn the steering wheel all the way. Is that normal? What was your solution? Can the plastic trim around the front wheels be removed?

Will I have rubbing problems when turning fast at high speeds at a Race track?

Johnny Danger 05-15-2012 06:12 PM

The inner shields are adjustable . Take a closer look and you will see .

ProjectM96 05-16-2012 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 290469)
The inner shields are adjustable . Take a closer look and you will see .

When you say inner shields, are you talking about the plastic trim around the wheel? Inner fender.

ProjectM96 05-16-2012 05:09 AM

And does this look too low for a 1 inch drop?

The incline on the driveway is not at a high angle, but my bumper + lip still scrapes.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7092/7...ff848f49_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/7...3048ca72_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7096/7...c89a1dca_z.jpg

MN 986 05-16-2012 06:09 AM

I am not lowered (yet, ROW M030 coming soon, if hat counts as lowered), but with my AerokitII bumper with larger GT3 splitter is almost as low as yours and I have the same driveway angle. Maybe you do this already, but I can avoid scraping by entering/exiting the driveway at an angle. If one wheel hits the ramp before the other, you end up with a little extra room versus both wheels at once.
I hope that helps!

Johnny Danger 05-16-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectM96 (Post 290507)
When you say inner shields, are you talking about the plastic trim around the wheel? Inner fender.

Assuming that we're talking about the same thing, if your front tires are making contact with the plastic shield that's located inside the wheel well itself, it can be adjusted . I had a similar problem after my vehicle underwent a body kit project, wherein my front wheels were making contact with the shield . It's been awhile since the project, but I recall that the shields were adjustable, and I was able to move them inward to eliminate this problem .

986_c6 05-16-2012 06:27 AM

No problems here. Lowered 1" with H& R springs with aero kit and no rubbing lock to lock.

ProjectM96 05-16-2012 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MN 986 (Post 290516)
I am not lowered (yet, ROW M030 coming soon, if hat counts as lowered), but with my AerokitII bumper with larger GT3 splitter is almost as low as yours and I have the same driveway angle. Maybe you do this already, but I can avoid scraping by entering/exiting the driveway at an angle. If one wheel hits the ramp before the other, you end up with a little extra room versus both wheels at once.
I hope that helps!

Yeah I tried that too. It was the same result but not as bad. As you can see in this picture, my front wheels are still on the driveway. They have not even reached the lower black pavement yet.

ProjectM96 05-16-2012 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 986_c6 (Post 290523)
No problems here. Lowered 1" with H& R springs with aero kit and no rubbing lock to lock.

So you track your Boxster with the 1 inch lowered suspension? Did you ever experience rubbing from making fast turns on the track?

NoGaBiker 05-16-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectM96 (Post 290536)
So you track your Boxster with the 1 inch lowered suspension? Did you ever experience rubbing from making fast turns on the track?

Bear in mind that the rubbing typically only occurs when your wheels are near lock, meaning an extremely tight turn. On track, at speed, rarely do you get anywhere near tight enough of a turn to cause the rubbing, unless it happens frequently on the street, with only the slightest turn of the wheel.

Usually the rubbing only occurs at parking-lot speeds.

ProjectM96 05-16-2012 08:16 AM

Yeah it only happens at lock.

But I still don't know how much body roll there will be at track speeds and how close it will get to the tire.

It is okay in normal driving.

Topless 05-16-2012 08:39 AM

Mine is lowered and rubs a bit at full lock with 255s on the front. No rub with 225s. Did you have your wheel alignment done after lowering? What were the values?

ProjectM96 05-16-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topless (Post 290553)
Mine is lowered and rubs a bit at full lock with 255s on the front. No rub with 225s. Did you have your wheel alignment done after lowering? What were the values?

Yeah they couldn't get it perfect. I don't have the values on me, but I will try and post them later.

jcb986 05-16-2012 10:28 AM

Ok, why would anyone what to lower a Porsche. :ah:

Gilles 05-16-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectM96 (Post 290468)
Will I have rubbing problems when turning fast at high speeds at a Race track?

If your tires are rubbing the inner fender at the track, I am sure that you will have bigger concerns than the rubbing itself... :p

PS, the rubbing may be eliminated with a wheel spacer

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ChrisZang 05-16-2012 01:10 PM

lowered by about 1 1/2" with 7mm wheel spacers all around
lots of rubbing at the front wheels (fender liners and the blue steel line inside the driver's side fender)

ProjectM96 05-16-2012 05:15 PM

The red part, or rather a bit more inner, is where the tire hits the plastic inner fender when turned all the way. So it hits from the front, not the top.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/7...a2960287_c.jpg

Also, now the metal shield behind the rotor is touching the brake rotor in the right rear wheel where the camber is most negative.

How can I solve that problem? I tried to bend it away, but there is a strong metal suspension component behind the metal shield that does not let me bend it away.

And Alignment results after lowering it were:
Toe:
Front Right: 0.05 degrees
Front Left: 0.03 degrees
Rear Right: 0.11 degrees
Rear Left: 0.09 degrees

Camber
-0.1 degrees for both fronts.
Rear Right: -1.6 degrees
Rear Left: -1.4 degrees

Caster
7.8 degrees

Johnny Danger 05-16-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectM96 (Post 290633)
The red part, or rather a bit more inner, is where the tire hits the plastic inner fender when turned all the way. So it hits from the front, not the top.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/7...a2960287_c.jpg

Also, now the metal shield behind the rotor is touching the brake rotor in the right rear wheel where the camber is most negative.

How can I solve that problem? I tried to bend it away, but there is a strong metal suspension component behind the metal shield that does not let me bend it away.

And Alignment results after lowering it were:
Toe:
Front Right: 0.05 degrees
Front Left: 0.03 degrees
Rear Right: 0.11 degrees
Rear Left: 0.09 degrees

Camber
-0.1 degrees for both fronts.
Rear Right: -1.6 degrees
Rear Left: -1.4 degrees

Caster
7.8 degrees


For the second time, the inner shields are adjustable. Remove your wheel(s), and look behind the shields . You'll discover that the tabs (or whatever they're called) can be adjusted to allow them to be moved inward toward the bumper . This should create enough space for the tires to clear .

ProjectM96 05-17-2012 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 290638)
For the second time, the inner shields are adjustable. Remove your wheel(s), and look behind the shields . You'll discover that the tabs (or whatever they're called) can be adjusted to allow them to be moved inward toward the bumper . This should create enough space for the tires to clear .

I didn't notice the tabs when I looked. I was trying to adjust it like you said before I posted this picture. I guess I will take the wheels off and check it out again later.

In other news, because of my clogged A/C lines and the hard rain in Philly the other day, I literally had about 4 gallons of water under my passenger seat. I vacuumed most of it out. I also found a couple of tobacco products under my carpet under the passenger seat and the water had a white powerdery substance floating in it?!?!

SoK 05-17-2012 05:16 AM

How did the water get into the car?

ProjectM96 05-17-2012 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoK (Post 290685)
How did the water get into the car?

My A/C line is clogged so the water leaks into the car instead of outside the car everytime I use my A/C. Common problem with Boxsters.

In addition, the plastic trim under the car is broken by the mud flap.

If you remove the carpet where it meets the firewall, you would notice some holes that go outside. Since the plastic trim under the car and the plastic mudflap by the rear wheel is broken, water gets into there when it rains making the situation even worse.

When I drive up hill, water starts to flow back out of the large crack in my plastic mud flap.

Topless 05-17-2012 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectM96 (Post 290693)
My A/C line is clogged so the water leaks into the car instead of outside the car everytime I use my A/C. Common problem with Boxsters.

In addition, the plastic trim under the car is broken by the mud flap.

If you remove the carpet where it meets the firewall, you would notice some holes that go outside. Since the plastic trim under the car and the plastic mudflap by the rear wheel is broken, water gets into there when it rains making the situation even worse.

When I drive up hill, water starts to flow back out of the large crack in my plastic mud flap.

Ok, time to resolve the water infiltration pronto. If you flood the immobilizer located under the drivers seat you will throw big $$$ getting your car to run again.

ProjectM96 05-17-2012 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topless (Post 290702)
Ok, time to resolve the water infiltration pronto. If you flood the immobilizer located under the drivers seat you will throw big $$$ getting your car to run again.

Yeah I am working on it today since it is supposed to rain all next week in my area. Luckily, this is only happening on the passenger side.

986_c6 05-23-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectM96 (Post 290536)
So you track your Boxster with the 1 inch lowered suspension? Did you ever experience rubbing from making fast turns on the track?

Yes, I tracked the Boxster quite a bit, and with the aftermarket wheels, a little rubbing at the rear fender I suppose on compression. But with the stock 17" wheels no rubbing at all.

I believe another poster already mentioned the rubbing from the front usu happening on the street at lock to lock, because you would need possibly hairpins type turns to fully turn the steering wheel.

The exp with the rear rubbing came with different brand of tires...even though I used 265/35/18's, the Hoosier A6/R6 rubbed substantially when compared with Toyo R888 or other street tires for that matter.

Hope this helps and sorry to hear of the rubbing and the h20 in the car, that sucks!

ProjectM96 05-24-2012 05:38 AM

I went to the track last weekend and drove my car the hardest I ever had.

I did not get rubbing issues. :)

But I did get other issues. 80% of the time on the track, All I heard was scraping sounds from all of the brake rotor dust shields touching the brake rotors while I was driving. For some reason when I lowered the car, it pushed the brake shields closer to the rotor. You can actually hear the sound at some point in the video I recorded while driving around the track.

Yellow986S 11-26-2015 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 290518)
Assuming that we're talking about the same thing, if your front tires are making contact with the plastic shield that's located inside the wheel well itself, it can be adjusted . I had a similar problem after my vehicle underwent a body kit project, wherein my front wheels were making contact with the shield . It's been awhile since the project, but I recall that the shields were adjustable, and I was able to move them inward to eliminate this problem .

I've recently fitted some wider tires and wheels and have some slight rubbing in the front on the inner fender liner. I saw in one of your previous posts that you said they were adjustable. I have completely removed them and am trying to find out how to adjust it but i can't find it. Could you please describe how to adjust the fender liners more inward.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1448606656.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1448606702.jpg

JayG 11-27-2015 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow986S (Post 474779)
I've recently fitted some wider tires and wheels and have some slight rubbing in the front on the inner fender liner. I saw in one of your previous posts that you said they were adjustable. I have completely removed them and am trying to find out how to adjust it but i can't find it. Could you please describe how to adjust the fender liners more inward.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1448606656.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1448606702.jpg

Good luck, JD has been AWOL for a while now

The Radium King 11-27-2015 06:41 AM

my car is lowered, has aggressive front camber and 235 fronts. I get some rubbing on the inside of the fender well. I was initially worried that it was the result of very aggressive driving - loading the front suspension in corners and causing the tires to touch the inside of the wheel well.

I spoke to my mechanic about it and his position was this (and he also runs our local track events and fields three race cars so knows his stuff pretty good): rubbing due to deflection of the suspension under load would occur at the top of the wheel wells. rubbing on the inside of the wheel wells is from turning to full lock - more of a parking lot thing. the solution? don't turn to full lock. further, he noted that rubber is softer than most of the important things in the wheel wells (coolant lines, etc.) so the tires would damage before the mechanical bits would. so, monitor your tires for damage (ie, inside sidewall) instead of the fender liners.

it eased my mind enough to do nothing about the wear I am seeing.

Luv2Box 11-27-2015 07:11 AM

I installed the ROW M030 Sport Suspension on my '99 three years ago and, although it wasn't lowered that much, it was lowered enough to scrape on some driveways and speed bumps. I just slow down and approach from an angle if possible to avoid scraping the from underside, but since no one sees it I'm not all bothered by a few scrapes underneath. If you really are bothered by it there is a metal protector that is made to install under the front and take the scrapes. As I recall Auto Atlanta, Pelican and Suncoast used to sell one. You might also try eBay but expect to pay $200+ for one.:cheers:

litespeedp 11-27-2015 11:04 AM

With a JEEP Wrangler as my DD, I tend to forget and have scraped mine a couple of times!

Mine is an S with the optional factory M030 sport suspension.


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