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l3m 05-08-2012 04:15 PM

CROSS Exhaust arrived
 
CROSS (aka JIC Magic) exhaust for the 986 Boxster. Made in Japan. Only the tips are titanium. The body is stainless. Not sure I like the bluish tip.

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ekam 05-08-2012 04:27 PM

Congrats, but I'm afraid to ask how much you paid for it...

Johnny Danger 05-08-2012 04:39 PM

It's interesting to see how they chambered the mufflers .

ChrisZang 05-08-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekam (Post 289604)
Congrats, but I'm afraid to ask how much you paid for it...

Man that looks expeeeeeeensive

How many of the $225 Charlie Chan mufflers could I buy for the price of this piece of art?

Ghostrider 310 05-09-2012 12:40 AM

I don't get the tip design, looks like my old Kawasaki right where the pipes entered the connectors to the head. the overheating made the same effect as the tip, I guess that's the point of emulating the effect, cross muffler = muy caliente'

Jaxonalden 05-09-2012 12:50 AM

Please post a sound clip when you're complete.:dance:

l3m 05-09-2012 05:00 AM

Here are some videos on YT (not mine).

Boxster Cross exhaust - YouTube

rB Tech Porsche Boxster S Exhaust sound Video - YouTube

Cayman S With Cross Exhaust system - YouTube

The first one just appeared on YT a few days ago and it sounds like a stock setup with just the exhaust. The last 2 are on 987's and it looks like there's a lot more going on that just the exhaust. JIC is better known for their suspension products but they do sell a lot of exhausts for the JDM market. CROSS is their brand for European cars which I don't think they sell a lot of.

I only paid a little more than what an NHP muffler retails for and hundreds less than a Fabspeed exhaust. JIC-Magic USA was selling two on Ebay for 1/2 off retail. They bought some from Japan some time ago when exchange rates were better and they were getting rid of their inventory. I asked for a sound video and they referred me to a Porsche sales manager who bought one of the exhausts. That person said he liked the quality and the sound of the exhaust, not too quiet and not too loud (I know this is subjective). He watched the two RB Tech videos and said his exhaust sounded a little deeper.

Anyway, I've had my Boxster for 9 months now and really haven't done much to it. I have a small budget for mods and have been deciding whether I should spend it on performance or appearance. The car already has an ECU tune and an EVO intake so I decided an exhaust would be a good complement and make the car more exciting to drive. The previous owner had a GHL exhaust on it but it was too noisy so I told him to put the stock exhaust back. I only drive the car on weekends and am trying to get more excitement during my drives. There's really not a lot of twisty roads around Houston that take advantage of the Boxster's capabilities. I hope I made a good decision with this exhaust.

stephen wilson 05-09-2012 05:41 AM

You should be able to polish the tips to remove the bluing

Johnny Danger 05-09-2012 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l3m (Post 289649)
Here are some videos on YT (not mine).

Boxster Cross exhaust - YouTube

rB Tech Porsche Boxster S Exhaust sound Video - YouTube

Cayman S With Cross Exhaust system - YouTube

The first one just appeared on YT a few days ago and it sounds like a stock setup with just the exhaust. The last 2 are on 987's and it looks like there's a lot more going on that just the exhaust. JIC is better known for their suspension products but they do sell a lot of exhausts for the JDM market. CROSS is their brand for European cars which I don't think they sell a lot of.

I only paid a little more than what an NHP muffler retails for and hundreds less than a Fabspeed exhaust. JIC-Magic USA was selling two on Ebay for 1/2 off retail. They bought some from Japan some time ago when exchange rates were better and they were getting rid of their inventory. I asked for a sound video and they referred me to a Porsche sales manager who bought one of the exhausts. That person said he liked the quality and the sound of the exhaust, not too quiet and not too loud (I know this is subjective). He watched the two RB Tech videos and said his exhaust sounded a little deeper.

Anyway, I've had my Boxster for 9 months now and really haven't done much to it. I have a small budget for mods and have been deciding whether I should spend it on performance or appearance. The car already has an ECU tune and an EVO intake so I decided an exhaust would be a good complement and make the car more exciting to drive. The previous owner had a GHL exhaust on it but it was too noisy so I told him to put the stock exhaust back. I only drive the car on weekends and am trying to get more excitement during my drives. There's really not a lot of twisty roads around Houston that take advantage of the Boxster's capabilities. I hope I made a good decision with this exhaust.

A nice mod to compliment your new exhaust would be to delete the secondary cats . The result will yield a significant reduction in weight, better exhaust flow and a nice improvement in sound as well .

Burg Boxster 05-09-2012 06:11 AM

They probably blue the tips from factory b/c they will turn that color shortly.

Thus avoiding "customer service issues" or bad product reviews down the road.

Not saying it's a bad product at all as I truly have no idea... just discussing perception and/or reasoning for the burn in out of the box.

Good luck :)

l3m 05-09-2012 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 289656)
A nice mod to compliment your new exhaust would be to delete the secondary cats . The result will yield a significant reduction in weight, better exhaust flow and a nice improvement in sound as well .

I agree. Actually, I thought about this first but was afraid of the dreaded Cat CEL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burg Boxster (Post 289657)
They probably blue the tips from factory b/c they will turn that color shortly.

Thus avoiding "customer service issues" or bad product reviews down the road.

Not saying it's a bad product at all as I truly have no idea... just discussing perception and/or reasoning for the burn in out of the box.

Good luck :)

Maybe this is also how they differentiate between the Ti and ST exhausts at the factory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephen wilson (Post 289653)
You should be able to polish the tips to remove the bluing

Thanks, I read in another forum that some Autosol metal polish will do the trick.

Johnny Danger 05-09-2012 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l3m (Post 289659)
I agree. Actually, I thought about this first but was afraid of the dreaded Cat CEL.



Maybe this is also how they differentiate between the Ti and ST exhausts at the factory.



Thanks, I read in another forum that some Autosol metal polish will do the trick.

Removal of the secondary cats will not impact OBD II compliance . Nor, will it result in a CEL .

stephen wilson 05-09-2012 10:04 AM

There's no way the exhaust after a muffler gets hot enough to blue the steel ( or Ti.). More likely, the bluing is from heating the tubing so the tip can be rolled during manufacturing.

ekam 05-09-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephen wilson (Post 289683)
There's no way the exhaust after a muffler gets hot enough to blue the steel ( or Ti.). More likely, the bluing is from heating the tubing so the tip can be rolled during manufacturing.

It will if your box have a V12...

Lamborghini Aventador exhaust flames,blue flame and high-revs !! - YouTube

stephen wilson 05-09-2012 10:46 AM

AH, but even then the tail-pipe isn't blue, just the flames! :)

Jake Raby 05-09-2012 11:59 AM

Damn, I had one of those systems I would have sold for 750 bucks.... If anyone else is looking for one, let me know. Its a left over from my engine combination development. Hardly ever used.

tommy986 05-09-2012 12:17 PM

How is the drone on this model?

986_c6 05-10-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake Raby (Post 289695)
Damn, I had one of those systems I would have sold for 750 bucks.... If anyone else is looking for one, let me know. Its a left over from my engine combination development. Hardly ever used.

I am keeping my ears open as I thought about changing to this set. Would like to hear the results from OP though.

I personally like the bluish TI tips.

986_c6 05-10-2012 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 289660)
Removal of the secondary cats will not impact OBD II compliance . Nor, will it result in a CEL .

The only thing I worry about would be the visual, and not the "sniffer" portion of the smog test here in "too late to fix" Cali.

l3m 05-11-2012 03:03 AM

I installed the exhaust yesterday. I decided to change the oil as well. Took me half a day cuz I had to learn how to remove the rear bumper and removing the old exhaust took some time. The two bolts that connect the top of the exhaust to the back of the transmission were hard to reach. The new exhaust fitted perfectly.

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jacabean 05-11-2012 05:01 AM

kind of a waste without deleting the secondary cats

jwade 05-11-2012 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacabean (Post 289846)
kind of a waste without deleting the secondary cats

Yes, I was wondering the same. You should install some Fabspeed by-pass pipes to take advantage of that new muffler.

Also, I am in the process of retrieving my Turbowerx headers off my '01 S I surrendered back in April. I will give you a good deal on them as they are virtually new and give the car quite a bit of power. Sound is unbeliveable!

Pm me if interested.

Boxtaboy 05-11-2012 06:07 PM

So how do you like the sound?

jwade 05-11-2012 06:13 PM

Sounds incredible. Like a cup car. Basically running straight exhaust from the engine thru an original eisenmann PSE is something else.

Eric G 05-11-2012 06:42 PM

Personally, they look sexy and if you are happy with the sound all the better!

Johnny Danger 05-12-2012 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 986_c6 (Post 289836)
The only thing I worry about would be the visual, and not the "sniffer" portion of the smog test here in "too late to fix" Cali.

Unless the tester is an expert on boxsters, seeing the pre-cats on the headers should satisfy the visual inspection.

ekam 05-12-2012 04:56 AM

Let's see your own video clip ....

986_c6 05-13-2012 12:06 AM

Boy, those pics of the CROSS pipes are just true art!

I think I will have to bite on this one and switch out my exhaust, along with the deluboz bypass pipes.

LM3, do you think this particular exhaust could be installed without removing the bumper?

ChrisZang 05-13-2012 06:49 AM

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LM3, do you think this particular exhaust could be installed without removing the bumper?[/QUOTE]

I do not understand why ANYONE would take the bumper off to change ANY exhaust.
Yes it's a little tight, but the only problem are the two bolts on top of the exhaust and if you know where they are you can get to them

l3m 05-13-2012 05:23 PM

You don't have to take out the rear bumper to change the exhaust. I only took off the rear bumper because 1) I didn't want to prop up the car and later find out that I have to remove the bumper, 2) I didn't want to accidentally scratch or damage the rear bumper, and 3) I wanted to learn how to remove the rear bumper.

I like the sound of this exhaust. I understand having bypass pipes would be beneficial but right now, I don't want it to be any louder. Definitely more enjoyable to drive now.

RandallNeighbour 05-13-2012 08:04 PM

Drone between 2-3k rpm?

986_c6 05-14-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour (Post 290176)
Drone between 2-3k rpm?

I'll answer for him. Yes,yes, and yes when it comes to more sound desired and aftermarket exhausts.

986_c6 05-14-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisZang (Post 290081)
I do not understand why ANYONE would take the bumper off to change ANY exhaust.
Yes it's a little tight, but the only problem are the two bolts on top of the exhaust and if you know where they are you can get to them

I do remember installing my b & b many years ago and it definItely was a pita! But it sounds like the bumper removal has quite a few steps also.

onefastman 05-15-2012 05:13 AM

That exhaust looks fantastic!

I was going to buy that and their coils before someone ran a red light and put an end to my Boxster...

Post videos when you can and +1 on secondary cat delete

+5 on headders

l3m 05-15-2012 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour (Post 290176)
Drone between 2-3k rpm?

Randall, I'm not sure exactly what drone sounds like. There isn't any annoying sound inside the cabin. I need to drive car more with the windows closed.

I need to make some videos. So far, it's nothing different than the one video (with Ohio plates) I posted earlier. It sounds better when you're inside the cabin. Sound videos are not what you actually hear in person.


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