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BMoney5327 06-01-2011 05:16 PM

Hey guys..Just got a 00 Boxster S...Need front bumper advice!
 
Hey, I picked up a 2000 Boxster S about a month ago and now its time to do some "Modding" to it. I dont want to go crazy because I want to clean look for the boxster but not over done. I've been looking at the front bumpers,from a Techart,Gt2 look and there was another one also a TK style front lip splitters. Now my question is how good are the fitments for the front bumper and how much more money would I have to put into it compared to just slapping on a front lip? Im undecided on what to purchase and I want to order soon. Please all chime in and let me know. Thx guys :cool:

Johnny Danger 06-01-2011 06:15 PM

Body kits and aftermarket aero parts can be a slippery slope ! Not just in the initial cost, but in the amount of time and money necessary to complete the project . If you want, you can send me a pm with your email address, and I will provide you with a list of companies known for having quality products .


JD

madmods 06-02-2011 01:46 AM

I got the GT2 front. From all the front bumpers that I've seen, this is the only one that was esthetically correct with the shape of the car (imo anyway!). There are others (turbo style for instance) but perhaps more an eccentric kind of mod.

Got it from www.ebodykit.com in Hong Kong. Kenny is the dude to talk too... nice chap and very helpful. The bumper is fiberglass made, well dried so it won't bend/warp over time and it came all primed up and ready to hook on the front. The only thing I had to do is drill the holes where the stock screws goes, paint it, & clear coat it. It was that simple and the result is phenomenal. See by yourself, picture below! TOP QUALITY.

If you do go that road, you may want to add the plastic mesh grill. If you don’t ask… they will add the aluminum small mesh grill and that doesn’t cut it mate. The black plastic mesh is the thing you want to add to your order!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/...e0900b2123.jpg

ekam 06-02-2011 04:26 AM

You should look into IMS retrofit before spending money on modding. Just a cheap insurance down the road...

ocoeeboxster 06-02-2011 04:51 AM

Has anyone used http://www.fiberwerks.com/
Found them online and thinking of using them.

BMoney5327 06-02-2011 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmods
I got the GT2 front. From all the front bumpers that I've seen, this is the only one that was esthetically correct with the shape of the car (imo anyway!). There are others (turbo style for instance) but perhaps more an eccentric kind of mod.

Got it from www.ebodykit.com in Hong Kong. Kenny is the dude to talk too... nice chap and very helpful. The bumper is fiberglass made, well dried so it won't bend/warp over time and it came all primed up and ready to hook on the front. The only thing I had to do is drill the holes where the stock screws goes, paint it, & clear coat it. It was that simple and the result is phenomenal. See by yourself, picture below! TOP QUALITY.

If you do go that road, you may want to add the plastic mesh grill. If you don’t ask… they will add the aluminum small mesh grill and that doesn’t cut it mate. The black plastic mesh is the thing you want to add to your order!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/...e0900b2123.jpg


Wow that does look good and I also have a red S! But only thing is I dont want to order from Hong Kong to New Jersey lol. And yes black mesh of course because thats going to be my two tone color(red and blk). But they have the same bumper on Precision Porsche.com for $1050...Also another site im looking at is Betterbodiesmotorsport.com for the TK front splliter and Techart front bumper.

BMoney5327 06-02-2011 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekam
You should look into IMS retrofit before spending money on modding. Just a cheap insurance down the road...


What is that? Sorry

laphan 06-02-2011 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BMoney5327
What is that? Sorry

intermediate shaft bearing. 1 small bearing can destroy your engine when it decided to fail.
http://www.lnengineering.com/ims.html

Johnny Danger 06-02-2011 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocoeeboxster
Has anyone used http://www.fiberwerks.com/
Found them online and thinking of using them.

A member recently did a body kit from them . You should check out this thread .

http://986forum.com/forums/show-tell-gallery/27859-body-kit-has-arrived.html?highlight=fiberwerks

BMoney5327 06-02-2011 05:41 PM

Fiberwerks seems expensive sheesh! I already got quoted a week for my car to be ready lol after reading about that guys front bumper im thinking diff already. Anywayz im still stuck on edge of what to get. :confused:

I miss my old 996 carrera...full techart kit w/wing...badass! Boxster is alil harder ehh

ocoeeboxster 06-02-2011 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
A member recently did a body kit from them . You should check out this thread .

http://986forum.com/forums/show-tell-gallery/27859-body-kit-has-arrived.html?highlight=fiberwerks



Thanks for the link.

madmods 06-03-2011 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMoney5327
....... they have the same bumper on Precision Porsche.com for $1050...Also another site im looking at is Betterbodiesmotorsport.com for the TK front splliter and Techart front bumper.

The price is right.... or about the same I've paid for mine. This said you'd better get it from your local supplier. Shipping from HK won't cost you much more but will certainly take 3x more time to arrive (and... tax, customs, ect). Asking for trouble if anything goes wrong.

For info, "Cargraphic" makes an awsome front lip for that same bumper. Check this out mate. It won't run you cheap if you go with it however. Thousand bucks+ just for the Cargraphic lip. Inspiration for your RED/BLACK tones below!

http://www.multilogik.com/forumspics/gt2bumper.jpg

Another mod you may want to think about is the GT/997 style mirrors. I do not have a picture handy at the moment but believe me bro, they make the car look completely sick. $500 from cult-werk.com. Got them in less than a week..... best mod so far mate! Good people there as well... full trust.

BMoney5327 06-03-2011 06:08 AM

Yeah that red car down below is on the site too for that kit for i believe $875 WITH the lip..But for some reason it looks soo big on the bottom compared to the "regualr" OE gt2 front,which is $1050 w/a smaller lip...Same site too...Precision porsche.com

I seen the mirrors on betterbodiesmotorsport.com for the 997 look..i like them but not a instant upgrade for me right now(stocks are cool too)

What do you guys think about the speedster humps? Im also trying to figure out if I want to just get the front lip and get the speedster humps($800 painted) OR just forget about the humps(for now) and get the gt2 or techart front bumper?!?! Hmm


http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229160_2027353047192_1345046505_2366298_3169732_n. jpg

Wingnut2u 06-03-2011 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMoney5327
Yeah that red car down below is on the site too for that kit for i believe $875 WITH the lip..But for some reason it looks soo big on the bottom compared to the "regualr" OE gt2 front,which is $1050 w/a smaller lip...Same site too...Precision porsche.com

I seen the mirrors on betterbodiesmotorsport.com for the 997 look..i like them but not a instant upgrade for me right now(stocks are cool too)

What do you guys think about the speedster humps? Im also trying to figure out if I want to just get the front lip and get the speedster humps($800 painted) OR just forget about the humps(for now) and get the gt2 or techart front bumper?!?! Hmm


http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229160_2027353047192_1345046505_2366298_3169732_n. jpg

My take on speedster humps...save your money...while I do like the look, they are impractical and I would say that I put mine on only a handful of times every year.

Front bumper is CTR style, which since this pic has since been replaced with a RUF front bumper, see my sig for other mods. As others have mentioned, mods are a slippery slope and can be compared to crack. You get hooked instantly and it is damn near impossible to stop

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/...4275602c98.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/...f61248e823.jpg

madmods 06-03-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Wingnut2u
You get hooked instantly and it is damn near impossible to stop

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/...4275602c98.jpg

Mate, if you don't mind me sayin... looks as if it paid off for you. Not stopping also means determination, and in this case, in creating a masterpiece! Boxster will never look the same again mate - well bloody done :cheers:

Perfectlap 06-03-2011 08:58 AM

Yep...

FORGET about any cosmetic changes until you get the mechanical updates in place. If you are one of the unlucky lottery tickets with a wobbly IMS bearing you will end up with a very expensive camping tent that can only be used in the drive way. PM me if you need a shop in NJ to do the upgrade. Small shop but very honest.

madmods 06-03-2011 09:04 AM

As hard as I drive mine, andd if only that thing IMS could go off in millions of little peices I'd have a reason to blame someone else and this would automatically unfreeze my "wifey controlled" budget for a brand new car. Each one his own, modding any cars bikes and homes can't be a bad hobby ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap
Yep...
FORGET about any cosmetic changes until you get the mechanical updates in place. If you are one of the unlucky lottery tickets with a wobbly IMS bearing you will end up with a very expensive camping tent that can only be used in the drive way.


Wingnut2u 06-03-2011 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmods
Mate, if you don't mind me sayin... looks as if it paid off for you. Not stopping also means determination, and in this case, in creating a masterpiece! Boxster will never look the same again mate - well bloody done :cheers:

Thanks for the compliment

I also agree with the others that one of the first things I would look at is the IMS retrofit, whether it saves your engine or not, it gives you invaluable piece of mind. If you are due for a new clutch soon, I would do both the clutch and IMS at the same time in order to save money on labor

The best performance mod you can make is to upgrade the suspension

The most enjoyment you can get vs $$ spent is a day at the track, hands down.

BMoney5327 06-03-2011 03:53 PM

Mr. Wing....to be honest...your car made me want to have my S looking like yours!...NOW not with all the Same parts but closeee...The wheels im getting are blk mesh 19s and im painting the lips red to match the car..Also i loveee the speedster humps YOU have it looks soooo cooool man(ferrari style). If you want to sell the humps and wheels let me know!!!(Cash on hand lol)...SAVES ME TIME AND MONEY! haha....Also my car is already lowered,has litronics,clear/red tails,aftermarket roll bar for the back,short shifter with new clutch,aero kit skirts,custom exhaust,clear sides(front bumper) Staggered 18inch wheels(4sale) Carbon fiber interior kit..aftermarket cd player and door speakers...Car came pretty nicely done and was well taken care of! Private seller of course not dealer. Guy upgraded to a 997 :cool:

BMoney5327 06-03-2011 03:59 PM

And guys,not to sound like an a$$ or anything but thanks for looking out on the mechanical stuff but lets stick to topic pleaseee. Just need help in that area of a bumper/lip...oh and humps now lol.

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nefarious986 06-04-2011 11:56 AM

Common wisdom on this board for new owners is do the IMS .. its cheap insurance.

I had a IMS scare about a month ago when my water pump went and I thought it was IMS, but after fixing the water pump, it made me really think about getting the fix done.

Here's my take on that ... this is mostly personal opinion with some math .. so make your own conclusion.

First, some estimated cost.

Cost of the IMS upgrade ( parts + labor ) ~= $1500 if done at my local shop.

Cost of a newly used engine installed ( parts + labor ) ~= $9000 based on ebay prices.

Cost of a new reman 3.6 engine installed with warranty ( parts + labor ) = $16500 ( from Roock )

Second, I assume that IMS fail in 1 out of 10 cars ( correct me if I'm wrong but I remember reading somewhere that this was Flat6's ratio ). This gives you a 10% chance of failure.

Third, I assume that there are no fortune tellers among us and no one knows exactly when their IMS will give out. If you just know for sure you're one of the unlucky ones, then by all mean, get your IMS done.

...

To make 'insurance' worth buying .. it has to give me better odds of saving $ than if I didn't buy it. In another word, a $1500 insurance for a part that has a 10% failure rate only starts to make sense if the cost to fix when the part fails is over $15000. In this case, it is not. If your IMS goes, restoring your car to "as good as before" with a used engine cost $9000. That's gives you about a 1 / 6 ratio of IMS upgrade cost to potential saving in case of engine failure .. about 16%.

In another word, you're pre-paying 16% of the repair cost to guard against a 10% chance of failure.

So for me .. mathematically .. it only makes sense to do IMS upgrade when you can reduce the labor cost. Such as when you're already doing something in that area already so you can save on labor .. like changing clutch.

Doing IMS upgrade for the sake of IMS upgrade is not the best way to spend your money.

BMoney5327 06-04-2011 12:10 PM

Looks sooo badass Danger! Love yellow more than my red! All blk wheels also look soo mean! But I just hate at night seems like nothing is there. But hmm....Looking at my budget seems like ill be spending close to $4k with parts,labor,paint,shipping etc. My budget was about $3k. Now I have to rethink of what I wnat the most and leave some things out for now at least. I have a mod money budget to stick to lol..always have to leave extra for mechanical stuff.

madmods 06-05-2011 09:38 AM

I can get you this locally for $600. Would blend in your red & blk tones or not far anyway. Not entirely sure if it is made all of CF however... could be half CF/fiber. If it is 100% CF then that's a rocking deal. Fancy a cool humppy?

http://img02.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/...!170737419.jpg

BMoney5327 06-05-2011 11:29 AM

Speed humps look good but locally for you or me? Lol..I decided to go with the Techart front bumper with a set of TK skirts from betterbodiesmotorsport..$1300 with a FREE set of skirts,can't beat that deal! So my boxster s front bumper and aero kit skirts will be for sale for about $300 or so and ill throw in the stock S muffler. Good for people with a non S boxster! For now ill pass on the humps bein that its not soo practical like others mentioned. Ill post pics towards end of month when car is finished. Also going to paint my 18s all black with blk porsche caps,add spacers for front and rear. Also ordering the rear bumper diffusers and painting bumperettes red to match car. Should be nice!

Johnny Danger 06-05-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMoney5327
Speed humps look good but locally for you or me? Lol..I decided to go with the Techart front bumper with a set of TK skirts from betterbodiesmotorsport..$1300 with a FREE set of skirts,can't beat that deal! So my boxster s front bumper and aero kit skirts will be for sale for about $300 or so and ill throw in the stock S muffler. Good for people with a non S boxster! For now ill pass on the humps bein that its not soo practical like others mentioned. Ill post pics towards end of month when car is finished. Also going to paint my 18s all black with blk porsche caps,add spacers for front and rear. Also ordering the rear bumper diffusers and painting bumperettes red to match car. Should be nice!

Sounds like a great project in the making . Now, the next step, and perhaps the most important one, is to find the right shop that has extensive experience working with fiberglass body kits . Getting the proper fit and finish with these kinds of parts can be extremely challenging to say the least .

BMoney5327 06-05-2011 07:22 PM

Yes already have a shop in Staten Island,NY that does GREATT work..Mobile-Addictions a custom shop for these goodies...all work done from bmw,audi,lambo,ferrari,porsche,maybach,bentley etc etc! Soo im in good hands and have taken my other car's there previously. :dance:

Johnny Danger 06-05-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMoney5327
Yes already have a shop in Staten Island,NY that does GREATT work..Mobile-Addictions a custom shop for these goodies...all work done from bmw,audi,lambo,ferrari,porsche,maybach,bentley etc etc! Soo im in good hands and have taken my other car's there previously. :dance:

Can't wait to see the final results, even if it isn't yellow ! :D

BMoney5327 06-05-2011 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
Can't wait to see the final results, even if it isn't yellow ! :D


Ahahaha...eventually I want it pearl orange(lambo color) but thats with Zeintop etc etc! In the works for later later future lol :D

Perfectlap 06-07-2011 11:30 AM

I think those IMS failure rates will be going higher very soon. The more the older Boxsters are driven the more miles they rack up under 2nd and 3rd owners and problematic IMS bearings start to "shake out".

In other words they didn't fail earlier simply because some owner just didn't drive the car much. They sell it to another guy for $15K or whatever and an IMS bearing that was NOT properly lubricated/maintained is now doing a lot more work then when it just sat in the garage 6 1/2 days a week. Add 20K miles of daily use and little by little that bearing strats to wither. Kabooms left and right.

You have to be crazy not to change the bearing if you don't know how often the car was driven, when the oil was changed or at least have the last few oil filters to examine for cracked pepper size seal fragments.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nefarious986
Common wisdom on this board for new owners is do the IMS .. its cheap insurance.

I had a IMS scare about a month ago when my water pump went and I thought it was IMS, but after fixing the water pump, it made me really think about getting the fix done.

Here's my take on that ... this is mostly personal opinion with some math .. so make your own conclusion.

First, some estimated cost.

Cost of the IMS upgrade ( parts + labor ) ~= $1500 if done at my local shop.

Cost of a newly used engine installed ( parts + labor ) ~= $9000 based on ebay prices.

Cost of a new reman 3.6 engine installed with warranty ( parts + labor ) = $16500 ( from Roock )

Second, I assume that IMS fail in 1 out of 10 cars ( correct me if I'm wrong but I remember reading somewhere that this was Flat6's ratio ). This gives you a 10% chance of failure.

Third, I assume that there are no fortune tellers among us and no one knows exactly when their IMS will give out. If you just know for sure you're one of the unlucky ones, then by all mean, get your IMS done.

...

To make 'insurance' worth buying .. it has to give me better odds of saving $ than if I didn't buy it. In another word, a $1500 insurance for a part that has a 10% failure rate only starts to make sense if the cost to fix when the part fails is over $15000. In this case, it is not. If your IMS goes, restoring your car to "as good as before" with a used engine cost $9000. That's gives you about a 1 / 6 ratio of IMS upgrade cost to potential saving in case of engine failure .. about 16%.

In another word, you're pre-paying 16% of the repair cost to guard against a 10% chance of failure.

So for me .. mathematically .. it only makes sense to do IMS upgrade when you can reduce the labor cost. Such as when you're already doing something in that area already so you can save on labor .. like changing clutch.

Doing IMS upgrade for the sake of IMS upgrade is not the best way to spend your money
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