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Old 07-06-2010, 07:22 PM   #1
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beat me to the punch... I have been doing the same thing.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:49 AM   #2
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beat me to the punch... I have been doing the same thing.

Have you completed the re-webbing ?
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not yet i need to get the webbing. I will sew it myself. (probably) with the biggest and strongest nylon thread I can get and use in my machine.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:40 AM   #4
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Update: Finished the conversion to the Red Belts yesterday. Bought 8 yards of Flame Red 2" webbing from seatbelt pros.com ; then took the webbing to local upholstery shop. Took 2 hours of shop time to complete the job. My total cost was $50 for the webbing and $120 in labor, about 1/2 the price of the new belts in the retractors. Had I just taken the belts/retractors to upholsterer, would have cost $70

Will post a pic when the sun comes out...
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so after a brief trial period hows it going with the new belts? still happy?


any pics!? :troll:
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FYI, the reason for the different PNs is that from '02 onward, the seatbelts had pyrotechnic retractors to 'cinch' up the belts if the airbags were deployed. These will not work in earlier cars because the wiring harness is missing and the DME is different.

The early cars used an inertia reel to 'lock' the seatbelts when significant force was applied to the belts (such as the weight of a passenger thrust forward). But, they only 'lock' and don't actually retract to snug the occupant in.

If you tried using the pyro type retractors without the wiring and brain to fire the charge on impact, they would not retain you at all and you go flying into the airbag, dash and windshield before you ran out of excess belt - as in wearing no seatbelt at all.

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Old 09-07-2010, 01:27 PM   #7
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FYI, the reason for the different PNs is that from '02 onward, the seatbelts had pyrotechnic retractors to 'cinch' up the belts if the airbags were deployed. These will not work in earlier cars because the wiring harness is missing and the DME is different.

The early cars used an inertia reel to 'lock' the seatbelts when significant force was applied to the belts (such as the weight of a passenger thrust forward). But, they only 'lock' and don't actually retract to snug the occupant in.

If you tried using the pyro type retractors without the wiring and brain to fire the charge on impact, they would not retain you at all and you go flying into the airbag, dash and windshield before you ran out of excess belt - as in wearing no seatbelt at all.

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Hi, when I ordered red seat belts for my 99 I got the later model with the pyro retractors. I asked about this, and was told that this part supersedes the older model and that it would just install without the wiring. When I pull hard on it, it does retain. It just don't have a working retractor to pull you back - so in effect operate like the original one.

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Old 09-03-2010, 06:52 PM   #8
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so after a brief trial period hows it going with the new belts? still happy?


any pics!? :troll:
My apologies, I'll get a pic tomorrow. The change to the red webbing was easier than anticipated and they work fine. I'll get a pic up tomorrow, we've had crappy weather with fog....not the best for pics.

The retractors looked just like the one on the 914....
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Old 09-04-2010, 11:46 AM   #9
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The sun came out and I finaaly got some pics of the red seat belts:
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