secondary cat delete.

[Lobo1186]

so after running the new pipes all day... Iam thoroughly impressed. not sure about power or anything like that BUT, the sound is amazing. granted I do have an aftermarket muffler also. very pleased. still working out some leaks but well worth the 40 dollars.

[Daniel R]

You found a shop that would mandrel bend for $40??

You did well my friend. I did the same mod but in 2" stainless so the diameter would match my headers. The flanges in stainless cost me about $80 from a place that can cnc stainless plate, a friend of mine bent the pipe for free, but he has a $50,000 piece of equipment that mandrel bends in his shop, and the install cost me $100 as I couldn't quite get it in there myself without the obligatory leak or two.

I was still happy with $180 as opposed to $500.

You are right, sound is better. Is your's a little more metallic in sound like mine? I quite like it as it sounds more like the air cooled motors now. I do think performance is up marginally too, and the weight saving is never a bad thing.

[Lobo1186]

yes 40 bux for the two pipes, the guy who did it was a real champ he just saw the cats that i removed and eyeballed it. took him maybe 5 minutes and came out with a great fit. Im going to try to seal up the leaks I have myself and if that fails Ill just have them welded in. I know a few welders maybe I can get that done on the cheap but im not sure.

as far as the sound is concerned it does have a more metallic sound and I love it. its aggressive and IMHO Porsche. it brings back memories of lemans races.

180 dollars is not bad at all and personally my cap that I wanted to spend wasnt much lower than that, granted you have higher expectations since you wanted the flange piece. but yes very pleased and excited to drive once again in the morning haha.

[Boxtaboy]

Originally Posted by Lobo1186

yes 40 bux for the two pipes, the guy who did it was a real champ he just saw the cats that i removed and eyeballed it. took him maybe 5 minutes and came out with a great fit. Im going to try to seal up the leaks I have myself and if that fails Ill just have them welded in. I know a few welders maybe I can get that done on the cheap but im not sure.

as far as the sound is concerned it does have a more metallic sound and I love it. its aggressive and IMHO Porsche. it brings back memories of lemans races.

180 dollars is not bad at all and personally my cap that I wanted to spend wasnt much lower than that, granted you have higher expectations since you wanted the flange piece. but yes very pleased and excited to drive once again in the morning haha.

We're gettin technical here. LOL. I think Daniel R was questioning if the shop bent the pipe in Mandrel fashion for only $40 bucks, or just plain pressure bent the pipes (which would restrict flow):

http://www.bobsmuffler.com/muffler_myths.htm

[Lobo1186]

oh lol my bad. No it isnt mandrel bent that was another consideration for getting wider pipes. to accommodate the loss of diameter. seeing as its only 2.5 coming out of the first cat... the diameter after that as long as its at least that is a non issue.

[Lobo1186]

so just wanted to give a follow up. Ive been able to get everything good to go. my leaks are all sealed up and well I love the sound it is incredible. truly amazing. before it was just mundane, now it has a great metallic sporty sound much like I have said before like a Le Mans car. except now with the leaks holed up even stronger and bolder.

[DamageINC123]

Any problems with check engine light or did you leave the o2 sensors? I have a 97 and think about removing the CATS and replacing with pipes.

The other option would be to holllow out the CATS. Any opinions?