09-22-2009, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfectlap
Is there any truth to this occuring more with the 03-04 cars because of the revised IMS design being more prone to failure than the earlier design?
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Not sure but my 03 has 92k miles and is going strong both on the street and track. That being said it will probably die tomorrow.
Sure wish I had seen this auction before it ended!
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09-23-2009, 07:16 AM
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The IMS was redesigned in 00'+ from the 97-99's,hence why it's an issue with newer M96 engines. 3.2L & 3.4L tend to have more of an issue with it. Just look how many 996 bad engine threads there are on Rennlist. If the IMS were redesigned again from 03'+ on I'm not sure.
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09-23-2009, 10:34 AM
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The IMS bearing revisions made the issues WORSE! The early cars have a double row bearing, mid year cars have a single row bearing with 1/2 as much bearing support!!
this was done to allow bearing removal and replacement so Porsche didn't owe you a new engine under warranty when it started to take a crap.
They all equally suck, I received a phone call yesterday from an IMS victim with a failure of a 00 bearing at 37K miles.. Today I have gotten TWO calls, one from an 02 Carrera owner and the other from an 04 Boxster S Owner.
Last week I had 7 IMS bearing failure calls, and two D chunk failure calls...
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09-23-2009, 11:31 AM
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^ What's the fix costing these days? (on the boxster not the 996)
Do you ever see this with the 996 TT's?
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09-23-2009, 11:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfectlap
Do you ever see this with the 996 TT's?
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Shouldn't be. The TT,gt2,gt3 engines are all based of the GT1 race car and have completely different engine designs.
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09-23-2009, 11:51 AM
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Jake I thought the IMS was redesigned from 99'-00' to reduce engine noise?
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09-23-2009, 01:01 PM
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$10k is a damn good price for a roller IMHO
Question for Jake:
When my IMS failed last year my ext. warranty paid for a new engine
This engine was supposed to have "all the upgrades".
Any idea what Porsche did to make a 2008 3.2L replacement engine more solid?
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09-24-2009, 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfectlap
^ What's the fix costing these days? (on the boxster not the 996)
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Mine cost total (parts + labor) around $15k
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I still wave at Boxsters, but they no longer wave back :-(
2002 Boxster S "Violet" (sold but not forgotten)
2009 Carrera 4S "Kelsey" (current ride)
2015 FIAT 500e "Nikki" my commuter car
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09-24-2009, 05:03 PM
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What am I missing?
10K for the roller, 15K for the engine - 25K (at least) all in.
Lots of good Boxster selling under $20k. Heck mine was totaled out and could of been fixed with a new door, rear quarter and rocker panel. Salvage value was 5K - so back on the road for under 10K (my guess).
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09-25-2009, 08:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZang
Mine cost total (parts + labor) around $15k
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so its like buying another used Boxster....what's the point of that?
If you sell it with the detonated engine what can you get for it? $5K from a guy looking to race it?
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09-25-2009, 10:13 AM
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For Jake it makes the most sense, as the car's condition is near perfect and for him to drop an engine in it will be a lot cheaper than you or me. Plus he might even be able to write it off as a test car or something. Its almost a no brainer. Almost all salvaged porsches have been wrecked and most likey have frame damage and costly body/headlight damage. If I was a mechanic I would consider something like this a gift, as half the cost of an engine swap for us is in labor and with jakes engines, Well I am sure he would cut himself one heck of a discount and labor is negligible
For someone like me, I could probably get an engine (regular not modded) for around 5 to 7 grand, then pay somebody to put it in. Not that great of a deal for me.
Last edited by mptoledo; 09-25-2009 at 10:28 AM.
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