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derb 05-25-2009 02:54 PM

Porsche debt problem.
 
Had no idea Porsche was in such dire straits back in March. Saw this over on PPBB...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,626666,00.html

Right down to the wire.

Brucelee 05-26-2009 06:42 AM

The first think you learn in business school is the difference between cash flow and accounting profits.

Looks like these guys forgot about that.

I have to say, I would LOVE to see Piech end up broke. He started all of this nonsense and he should pay dearly for his hubris.

IMHO.

:D

70Sixter 05-26-2009 07:21 AM

You also have to play the "What If" game and plan for the worst while hoping for the best. What if the world economy tanks and debts come due?

How far down will our pants be? Hmmm. Pretty far in Porsche's case. :ah:

Topless 05-26-2009 07:30 AM

They all forgot that you don't build a car company by trading leveraged stock options. You build a car company by building cars.

Cloudsurfer 05-26-2009 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brucelee
The first think you learn in business school is the difference between cash flow and accounting profits.

Looks like these guys forgot about that.

I have to say, I would LOVE to see Piech end up broke. He started all of this nonsense and he should pay dearly for his hubris.

IMHO.

:D


I'll second this.

PlayersExpress 05-26-2009 08:36 AM

Funny thing is, Porsche is doing better than all the other car companies.... so what does that tell us? We were lucky enough to only get the half retarded clowns running the show not the fully autistic ones. :D


I think the executives at Porsche think the company slogan applies to them "Porsche, there is no Substitute..." I think its about time they get replaced, and I believe they will because the Porsche family is not happy with the way things are being run. :rolleyes:

Quote:

They all forgot that you don't build a car company by trading leveraged stock options. You build a car company by building cars.
I second that. :cheers:

gRed04 05-26-2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derb
Had no idea Porsche was in such dire straits back in March. Saw this over on PPBB...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,626666,00.html

Right down to the wire.

I read some info on thetruthaboutcars.com that said not down to the wire but they actually were out of cash. Needed 700M loan from VW to stay afloat. Now VW is again considering buying Porsche.

Funny the difference a day makes.

Brucelee 05-26-2009 10:30 AM

These rich guys like Piech can't get their ego out of the way of making cars.

It is time for him to retire for good before he ends up working for Angela Merkel.

70Sixter 05-26-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topless
They all forgot that you don't build a car company by trading leveraged stock options. You build a car company by building cars.

The sad part is that while building (and selling) fine cars, they played roulette with the financial underpinnings of the company.

Personally I was hoping for some revenge against VW for the screwing they gave Porsche with the 914-6's excessive cost. :matchup:

ChrisZang 05-26-2009 01:43 PM

I wonder if there are any similar discussions going on on GM boards or Chrysler boards.
Personally I don't care too much about Porsche's financial woes, they WILL not go out of business, and I don't have any Porsche stock.
I just happen to drive one of their cars (which I will freely admit sometimes like more than my wife :D ) but that's about it.


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