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Hmmmh...Porsches prices might go down, but not the maintenance price itself...
Maintenance on BMW 6 cyls (Z3, Z4) or Merc's SLK doesn't come cheap either. M3 engine break and they don't come cheap etc etc. Owing a sports car is not exactly a cheap thing. But the Boxster is a 'modern' Porsche, water cooled etc. It's not an old 911 2.7RS which will require more attention. People drive these things daily and put miles on them.... Good luck with your choice... A TT, a S2000, a Z4 makes you a happy owner. A Porsche makes you the happiest owner :D |
"A Porsche makes you the happiest owner"
There is something about a Porsche! |
Not about initial cost...
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From what people say, even if I spend 30K for a decent model, there's still a good chance of the motor blowing out within a year. One forum member below said "yeah, this is my second motor, and its solid!"... that doesn't build much confidence... to me thats like saying "my second heart beats great!"... Alota my friends own roadsters, Z4, S2000, Miata, Z3, TT, the whole gambit.. no one owns a Boxster... and I would love to represent Porsche.. I love german cars and Porsche has been a childhood fantasy... but reliability has to be a sserious consideration.... A Rolex is a great watch, but if it told the time incorrect 1/2 the time, i doubt people would buy it.... |
If you go to enough forums for the other roadsters I'm sure you'll find that someone has managed to blow a motor in an s2000 or a z4 as well. The car isn't going to blow the motor because it's build quality is poor, becuase it's not. I had a z3 and a Z4 and the build quality there is questionable. The s2000 is a better quality car, but not as much fun and people still see it as a honda. My 98 boxster is my daily driver, but I don't abuse it, I have the Lotus for that :)
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If you're already considering a Porsche, part of you wants passion. You're not going to get that same feeling with a Jap car (S2000) like it or not. You don't buy a Ferrari and expect longevity of its engine and components. Modenas needs an engine out service every 50k miles! A Porsche is sort of like middle ground, at least for Boxsters and not exotics like GT2. It comes with a reasonable amount reliability iwth another reasonable dose of exoticness :) Hey, their still German made afterall :) Italians? That would be a different issue all together ;) |
Sadly, this engine alloy issue is not confined to Porsche. BMW has a MASSIVE problem with their V8 engines between 95-98. They VERY QUIETLY replaced a ton of these engines.
In my experience, the Porsche engine is very tough indeed, putting aside the issues we already discussed. Recommendation I make to all my customers: Change the oil/filter every 7500 miles, not 15K like the manual recs. Use 15-50 Mobil 1 in warmer climes. DON'T hammer the car when it is cold. NO engine likes this. |
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That being said, the Porsche still has better reliability ratings than a lot of cars out there. You have to realize, though, that there is a correlation on these message boards. Message boards are frequented by 2 groups of people: enthusiasts and those who have problems. And those enthusiasts often have more problems because they drive their cars harder and tend to mod them. If all 160k Boxster owners (I think that's the #) were on this board, you would get a much different picture of the reliability. The people w/ no problems are usually the quiet ones. Is it a Toyota Corolla? No. But then, I'm willing to pay a couple dollars more for maintenance because it's NOT a Corolla. Although I have 2 years of warranty to go, so right now, it makes no difference to me anyway! :-) |
yes very true as nice as the S2000 may be, its still a Honda.
No girl has ever said to me "oh you have a HOnda?" I've had at least a half dozen female friends and coworkers remark on my owning "a Porsche" :) Like one girl at the car wash, she said to her boyfriend "that's a nice car! Porsche?" and her boyfriend didn't look so happy and got into his Accord with her. sorry. The funny thing is that from Autocross racing I got so used to seeing Porsche 911's and Boxsters (S,Turbo's,GT3's) that I believed that someone owning a Porsche was common. I got to know more people with Porsche's than people with sportscars in general! Well aparently I was living in another "world" because in only two months of owning the Boxster I have lost count how many times people have said "nice car man" or just pointed a finger. The other day I saw a couple of kids on BMX bikes following me, they looked like they were 12 years old and one kid said "yeah look at the trunk, its the S". :D |
The WOW factor def. belongs to Porsche!
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definitely below a Ferrari (newer models)...
but the Boxster beat the Corvette convertible in my latest issue of Road and Track. I'll take my Boxster S any day of the week overt a hard top Corvette!!!! Anyone who knows sportscars and wants a new Porsche convertible MUST buy a Boxster. really now.... A convertible 911? its absolutely unethical. (or any other car that wasn't originaly meant to be convertible, After-thought convertibles are the realm of old dentists and lawyers and young girls who can't drive a manual transmission). The Boxster is closer to the ideal of a "pure" Sportscar than the standard 911. (as much as I always wanted a 1973 911 RS with tartan seats). The Boxster is Inpractical (only two passengers :) ), RWD, short wheel base, EXCELLLLLENT steering, great 2nd-3rd gear sound(like a lear jet taking off) and low maintenace. I really wouldn't change a thing. Perhaps the new Lotus is more of a pure sports car 'convertible' but its $50,000 for a toyota 1.8 engine :( |
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