Any Porsche exec's listening?

[blinkwatt]

Porsche doesn't care about customers if the car is out of warranty period. Check Rennlist,MANY people have had their 996 3.4L engine go out.....Porsche has done nothing.

[renzop]

Chrysler mini-vans have notoriously faulty transmissions. They fail often and at low mileage. The problem existed for at least 10 model years. I have had 2 friends who between them have owned 4. All 4 had transmission problems after warranty was out but before 75K miles. Chrysler never lifted a finger.

[Lil bastard]

It's all well and good to point to failures in Chryslers, Chevys and Toyotas, but they're not Porsches, nor do they command Porsche Prices, nor are they as expensive to repair as Porsches.

Not just that, but how does a failure of another manufacturer forgive Porsche of theirs...???

[ky944s]

As much as I've loved my Porsches (earlier ones) this whole engine thing has me second guessing a Boxster of any sort. New is way too much for me and used comes with no safety net, except for my wallet .
I've been loyal to the brand for a while, but now I think I might jump ship on my next sports car (keeping my 86, 944).

[Jeph]

Originally Posted by ky944s

As much as I've loved my Porsches (earlier ones) this whole engine thing has me second guessing a Boxster of any sort. New is way too much for me and used comes with no safety net, except for my wallet .
I've been loyal to the brand for a while, but now I think I might jump ship on my next sports car (keeping my 86, 944).

Please don't let this example deter you... You'll miss out on a great car. When everything goes fine with the ownership of a Boxster, one doesn't post that "everything is going swell." These engine tragedy cries are often the loudest. I'm not debating the whole "Should Porsche do something" riff. I'm just mentioning to read a few posts of engine failures and decide the car is no good is premature. But it's your call of course.

Another thing; those that have these problems usually aren't on the message board for long... not because they have no use for it due to engine explosion, but because it's first (and last) thing they post about. These posts are like grenades.

[ky944s]

Originally Posted by Jeph

Please don't let this example deter you... You'll miss out on a great car. When everything goes fine with the ownership of a Boxster, one doesn't post that "everything is going swell." These engine tragedy cries are often the loudest. I'm not debating the whole "Should Porsche do something" riff. I'm just mentioning to read a few posts of engine failures and decide the car is no good is premature. But it's your call of course.

Another thing; those that have these problems usually aren't on the message board for long... not because they have no use for it due to engine explosion, but because it's first (and last) thing they post about. These posts are like grenades.

I've seen some with over 100,000 miles on them and this is a good thing. I havent writen a Boxster off yet. I drove a 2001 last Sunday and WOW the owner let me open it up once and that was enough for me (I tried to hide my grin).
I just wish there was a way to catch the problem before things go bad.

[Jaxonalden]

I agree with Jeph. I was on another thread talking about over-revving these motors and how that's not a good idea. A couple of people wrote back saying if these cars couldn't take banging off the rev limiter or shifting at redline repeatedly they aren't worth the cost of owning one. They, of course, don't care about their cars in my opinion. Abuse is abuse and you will pay the price for it. With that said, buying any used car without checking it out first "thoroughly" is like picking up a girl at the neighborhood dive and having her tell you she doesn't have any STD's.

Good thing about Porsche though, you can look into the diagnostics and see the abuse. Those are the cars you stay away from.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Jeph

Please don't let this example deter you... You'll miss out on a great car. When everything goes fine with the ownership of a Boxster, one doesn't post that "everything is going swell." These engine tragedy cries are often the loudest. I'm not debating the whole "Should Porsche do something" riff. I'm just mentioning to read a few posts of engine failures and decide the car is no good is premature. But it's your call of course.

Another thing; those that have these problems usually aren't on the message board for long... not because they have no use for it due to engine explosion, but because it's first (and last) thing they post about. These posts are like grenades.

I don't think we are overeacting on the engines. Having said that, it is a great car. Just not out of warranty.

[Jeph]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

I don't think we are overeacting on the engines. Having said that, it is a great car. Just not out of warranty.

I don't think anyone is overreacting. I'd post my complaints about my engine failing.

I will disagree with your statement that these are only great cars during the warranty period (and a majority of forum members would side with me). Mostly because that's a pretty vague statement. Every car is great under warranty!

Am I wrong to say the main difference between a car under warranty and car out of warranty is who pays for repairs? If one can't afford the maintenance on the car, they can't afford the car. If one can't afford the car, then your statement would be accurate. Otherwise, what makes it not so great? The chance that the engine might fail?

@Jaxonalden
I think even a car with a clear/desirable history can still crap out, as in the case of 2001saxster.

[pbanders]

Originally Posted by ky944s

As much as I've loved my Porsches (earlier ones) this whole engine thing has me second guessing a Boxster of any sort. New is way too much for me and used comes with no safety net, except for my wallet .
I've been loyal to the brand for a while, but now I think I might jump ship on my next sports car (keeping my 86, 944).

I used to have a 944, I loved it, very easy to drive hard. The Turbo's are still really incredible track cars, especially for the money.

I don't think a Boxster motor is that much worse than a 944 motor in terms of issues. 944 repairs are what used to keep my buddy Rich Bontempi in business! Water pumps, oil leaks, cam belts, etc.

Boxster's are a really good deal, you can pick up a fairly new car for a good price, and then spend $2K of the money you saved (or less) on an aftermarket warranty to cover any engine problems.

I think all of us should print this thread, and mail it to Atlanta. That might get some attention when hundreds and maybe thousands start showing up in their mailroom.

Let me be the first one here to say that, "It's in the mail!"

[rick3000]

Did you seriously mail it?
If so, post the address and I will too!

[2001saxster]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

I think all of us should print this thread, and mail it to Atlanta. That might get some attention when hundreds and maybe thousands start showing up in their mailroom.

Let me be the first one here to say that, "It's in the mail!"

I'm all for that idea. I started this thread to get some attention for this issue and it seems that there are a lot of people who are in the same boat as me.

[ky944s]

Originally Posted by pbanders

I don't think a Boxster motor is that much worse than a 944 motor in terms of issues. 944 repairs are what used to keep my buddy Rich Bontempi in business! Water pumps, oil leaks, cam belts, etc.

Boxster's are a really good deal, you can pick up a fairly new car for a good price, and then spend $2K of the money you saved (or less) on an aftermarket warranty to cover any engine problems.

That is all true, but I can do all the maint. on the 944, from front to rear. My current one is at 217,000miles. I can afford my warranty on this car (944), ME. I have a lift and the whole 9 yards (I am a mechanic). But when a Boxster engine go's (IMS etc) with no warning it becomes scrap from the looks of it. .

If there was a "fix" for this I would have no problem with that. If I can't prevent or fix it, it scares me.