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idheaton 05-04-2008 06:53 AM

Opinions on rear spoiler
 
Hey guys,

A friend of mine made a prototype for a rear spoiler for the boxster and just looking for some opinions.

Sorry for the crappy cellphone pics.

Thanks

http://www.boxster986.com/images/spo...03-08_0932.jpg
http://www.boxster986.com/images/spo...03-08_0933.jpg
http://www.boxster986.com/images/spo...03-08_1456.jpg
http://www.boxster986.com/images/spo...03-08_1457.jpg
http://www.boxster986.com/images/spo...03-08_1458.jpg
http://www.boxster986.com/images/spo...03-08_1634.jpg
http://www.boxster986.com/images/spo...03-08_1637.jpg
http://www.boxster986.com/images/spo...03-08_1624.jpg

rick3000 05-04-2008 07:46 AM

I think it looks alright, but I wouldn't want one. It is too big, and sort of ruins the curves of the car. It sort of looks like you laid a board across the back.

The first picture looks good, the one's of the car on the road don't look good. I would make it a little smaller in length, and curve it more with the car. So instead of it coming off the car and doing a 90° bend, make it curve off the car, and then go across. This is just my opinion, which is what you said you are looking for. :cheers:

FTD 05-04-2008 08:13 AM

Its too wide for the car and takes away from the roadster silhouette. I have only seen one that I thought was right on. Its posted somewhere on this forum. It stays within the dimension of the trunk, without impending on the rear fenders. The one in your photos, no cruelty meant to your industrious friend, isn't right for the car.

ut_cougar 05-04-2008 10:20 AM

I will give my opinion, no hard feelings I hope. I agree with others... it looks cool and has alot of "race" or "sportiness" to it but its not quite right for the car. The 2 middle support pillers give off too much ricer IMO. The width is too wide and its a bit too large and a bit too high, it takes away from the "slammed low phat booty" that my car has (as my friends and I often describe the car from the rear). Also the flatness of the spoiler looks "uncomplicated" and wedge shaped. It should be at angles to curves, small and tight, just enough to provide performance, low to the body, curve with the rear, and possibly integrate a small thin brake light to integrate the "stock" look. For a first attempt its a damn good job I must say.

Gary in BR 05-04-2008 10:24 AM

Let me start of by saying I am not a fan of any after market spoiler on the Boxsters.
In the case of this one I think it would look better if the supports where spread out more.
Just my .02

kyle986driver 05-04-2008 12:05 PM

I love it from every angle except for from the rear, Thats how I feel about the wing on my car, too. From the sides and front it is in my oppinion the best looking boxster wing I've ever seen. Nice job. I think that boxsters have the wrong curves for a "perfect" looking wing from the back, but i like it.

jonnycool 05-05-2008 05:37 AM

i like it ALOT except from the rear, like other ppl have said it's great from ever angle except the rear, it just looks too thin and weak, too many THIN straight lines compared to the boxsters curves, you've almost got it, can you maybe curve the struts slightly and put a dam coming down an inch or two from the wing? i'd give it a 9/10 for sure how it is.

jonnycool 05-05-2008 05:43 AM

i got a feeling that it looks better in the flesh than it does in the pics...just a feeling....

idheaton 05-05-2008 07:39 AM

Hi all,

In response to a few of the comments just to give a little insight to some of the design decisions....whether they worked or not.... :)

The idea for this spoiler was was to connect the rear fenders similar to the Carrera GT to integrate it with the body, hence the extra width and resting on the fenders. Because of this the supports were placed closer to the center of the decklid to provide extra support where it was deemed needed as the outer spoiler is supported by the fenders.

I think that is is hard to get a spoiler to look like it was meant to go with the Boxster lines (or curves as the case may be). I think most spoiler out now fail in one aspect or the other and in the end come down to personal preference.

This was the first attempt and all replies and opinions are greatly appreciated... :)

Gary in BR 05-05-2008 07:57 AM

After the explanation, it is clearer what the designer was going for.

I think a rear spoiler on any car is a personal prefence. I prefer the 996/997's with a spoiler. The Boxsters with out and the Caymans with and with out.

As far as this spoiler goes I think he did a good job, I still think if there is a way to spread the supports out it would make the spoiler even better.

Continue posting any other spoiler ideas.

baseball 05-05-2008 10:43 AM

I hate to say this, but when I look at that spoiler all I can think of is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRA01bO1WSY
(you need the sound on to get the full effect of this video)

2000SoCalBoxsterS 05-05-2008 12:10 PM

I think I like it except I don't like the center supports. Can you make it more rigid so you don't need the center supports? How functional is it? I'd be interested in a rear spoiler that actually provides good down force for the track.

djomlas 05-05-2008 12:35 PM

is that thing just glued on there?
heres a quick one w no supports
http://i26.tinypic.com/2gv4ih2.jpg

looks better, but doublesided tape wont hold that at over 100 or so, and i dont kno how many people would drill into their 1/4 panels for something like that


maybe its just me, but i dont see a point of putting a spoiler on a car that already has a spoiler (and a functional one too). you can go spoiler up/down with push of a button, but not in case of this one or other ones that glue on the lid

idheaton 05-05-2008 01:14 PM

Unfortunately, the center supports are needed otherwise you'd have to attach it at the fenders and then how would you open your trunk... :confused:

Keep the comments coming...good and bad.... :)

Jeph 05-05-2008 03:21 PM

This isn't a spoiler, it's a wing. They are different in purpose/function. That's my biggest problem with this thing. I'm a fan of function over form -when it comes to a Porsche. I don't think one should strap on something like this just because it looks good. But judging by what's out on the road these days, many disagree.

This thing will cause a change in aerodynamics at speed.

But since people don't care about that and you're looking for visual feedback, I would say the the little support towers need to be a little further apart.

Benny986 05-06-2008 01:09 AM

its the right height, but, too tall too quickly. make it smoother, and less abrupt. make a lil lip up at the back of the wing. and make those supports thinner, and spread them out a bit. maybe make them as wide as the third brake light.

other wise its nice. how does it rest on the fenders? is there some kind of fuzzy material under the wing, so that it doesn't scratch the fenders?

for those that think its too big. they don't know anything ; )

here is my car

http://lubrify.com/autocross-picture...s/IMG_8848.JPG

Chills 05-06-2008 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary in BR
Let me start of by saying I am not a fan of any after market spoiler on the Boxsters.
In the case of this one I think it would look better if the supports where spread out more.
Just my .02


I completely agree with both points. I don't think spoilers look good on the Boxster, but this one isn't too bad. The supports are way too close together, though.

Jeph 05-07-2008 06:00 PM

I saw this on the way to work today and thought of this thread.

http://www.kryzak.com/storage/986-accordspoiler.jpg
Accords are notorious for there lack of down force on those rear wheels, despite the fact that they're front wheel drive.


And on the way home I saw this and also thought of this thread.

http://www.kryzak.com/storage/986-eclipsespoiler.jpg
This is what I predict will happen at speed.

Side note: I like my phone's camera. I used to be anti-camera-phone, but I've converted.

noone986s 05-08-2008 04:47 AM

I think it look squite good. Not sure I would buy one though. I am yet to find one I really like. The Manthey "bi-plane" spoiler for the Cayman S is awesome but they dont do one for the 986

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...s/manthey2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...s/manthey3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...s/manthey1.jpg

Jeph
Those roads look familiar, i lived in Plano for 3 years and got caught speeding twice on the 635 in my 911 SC, having a British license works every time ;)

Jeph 05-08-2008 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noone986s
Jeph
Those roads look familiar, i lived in Plano for 3 years and got caught speeding twice on the 635 in my 911 SC, having a British license works every time ;)

2 things:
First, I can stare at your signature for hours.
Second, the particular stretch of highway in the Eclipse photo is 635 (or "the 635" as you call it) -specifically, Farmers Branch. That town LOVES to write tickets. It makes me sick. Seems likely that you could have been pulled over there. I know I have.

idheaton 05-22-2008 04:58 PM

Revised wing
 
per majority opinion the mounts have been move further apart and they have also been streamlined a bit as well

http://www.boxster986.com/images/spoiler/DSC00003.jpg http://www.boxster986.com/images/spoiler/DSC00004.jpg
http://www.boxster986.com/images/spoiler/DSC00006.jpg http://www.boxster986.com/images/spoiler/DSC00009.jpg
http://www.boxster986.com/images/spoiler/DSC00015.jpg http://www.boxster986.com/images/spoiler/DSC00024.jpg

Stroked & Blown 05-22-2008 05:25 PM

What vents are those?

987gator 05-23-2008 03:51 AM

noone986s

Forgive my posting ignorance, but how did you get the Top Gear R8 vs 911 clip below your post?

I have that on DVR and just love that clip.

2000SoCalBoxsterS 05-23-2008 05:13 AM

I have the same question. How do you attach or embed that video clip?

Also, how do you embed photos in emails so they can be seen in the email without the recipient having to click on a link?

idheaton 05-23-2008 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stroked & Blown
What vents are those?


They are more custom pieces that my friend is working on

Stroked & Blown 05-23-2008 05:47 AM

any more details?

Adam 05-23-2008 11:01 AM

Pretty ricey looking imo.

Jeph 05-23-2008 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000SoCalBoxsterS
I have the same question. How do you attach or embed that video clip?

Also, how do you embed photos in emails so they can be seen in the email without the recipient having to click on a link?

That "video" is actually an animated GIF -similar to these guys: :matchup: :dance: :ah: :cheers:
It's just more elaborate -more colors. And 2 Megs in size, which for a graphic that size is astonishingly large. To put that into perspective, that graphic is equivalent to 1,333 of these guys -> :matchup:

As for embedding an image in an email signature, depends on several things, mostly what email client you're using... and whether or not it's rich text, html, or plain text, etc. It can be tricky to explain. I suggest you search for help in that program's HELP option. I'm not saying that to sound arrogant, but it's really quite useful sometimes.

Jaxonalden 05-23-2008 07:40 PM

For me to add a picture in a post this is what I have to do;

1. Upload a photo into the Pictures folder
2. Pull up that picture and right click on the image
3. Highlight “Open With” and then click on Microsoft Office Picture Manager
4. Click “Edit Pictures” then “Re-size”
5. In the window click on “Predefined width x height”
6. Click the drop down box and select Web-Large (640x480 px)
7. Click OK, after this the picture is now saved in the proper size for uploading in the forum
8. To place this picture in a post, with a Post Reply open page down to “Additional Options” and click on “Manage Attachments”
9. In the window that pops up click “Browse”, find the photo in the Pictures folder and click on it
10. The photo’s link will be placed in the block, click upload, once that’s done it will be in your attachments
11. In the post you will have to click on the picture icon, then go down and click on attachment and click “Copy Shortcut”, go back to the post and paste it after the icon then click on the icon again. For some reason you need an icon on each end of the link.
12. You won’t see the picture just the link, after you “Submit Reply” you’ll see the photo

This is the goat rope that I have to go through to post a picture, if someone has a better method please post it.

Dave

P.S. If you want to add a pic of your car to your signature, choose Web Small then edit your signature.

themperor 05-24-2008 10:02 AM

The posts need to go. If the spoiler was made into three pieces with an integrated base I would buy it.....

Check this out: http://www.patritti.com/patrick_patritti/Streetster_GTpic.html#4

LowFlyR 05-24-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idheaton
They are more custom pieces that my friend is working on

I like those side vents, for the right price of course.

Better pic of them, please.

VTCMart 05-24-2008 10:45 PM

Nice wheels...and 968 in the background.

idheaton 05-31-2008 05:46 PM

Side vents
 
A few more pics of the vents by request.

http://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/DSC00052.JPGhttp://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/DSC00053.JPGhttp://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/DSC00054.JPGhttp://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/DSC00055.JPG
http://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/DSC00056.JPG

idheaton 05-31-2008 05:50 PM

Here are some of them non-painted on my car when when we were testing fitment

http://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/vent002JPGhttp://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/vent003.JPGhttp://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/vent007.JPGhttp://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/vent008.JPGhttp://www.boxster986.com/images/sidevents/vent009.JPG

LowFlyR 05-31-2008 08:23 PM

Sign me in as a 2nd tester!!!
 
Pics on black car, way too dark to tell, but sign me up just with yellow pics. Price depending of course... Let me know ASAP

rgriffin 07-22-2008 04:05 AM

Will someone come up with a "biplane cayman" spoileer for the boxster? That's exactly what Im looking for.

Tomikaze 08-06-2008 09:22 AM

Cayman Type Spolier
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgriffin
Will someone come up with a "biplane cayman" spoileer for the boxster? That's exactly what Im looking for.

They have. It's called a zeinwing... Google it.


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