why has the Boxster less power than a 996?

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[Topless]

The Boxster is just a much better pure sportscar so it doesn't need the HP. It is a little giant killer in the tradition of the late 50's early 60's racing P cars.

[OldBlevins]

So, hypothetically, if you were to swap out engines for a 996's, how would the other components of the Boxster hold up to the additional HP? Would the tranny, clutch, driveline, etc take the added strain?

[pteam]

Originally Posted by OldBlevins

So, hypothetically, if you were to swap out engines for a 996's, how would the other components of the Boxster hold up to the additional HP? Would the tranny, clutch, driveline, etc take the added strain?

I would say for the most part, Yes. There are alot of people on this board alone that have turbo'd or superchared their cars and the driveline stuff has held up.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Topless

The Boxster is just a much better pure sportscar so it doesn't need the HP. It is a little giant killer in the tradition of the late 50's early 60's racing P cars.

You are kidding, right?

[Perfectlap]

I've never really thought that making the Boxster less powerful really helped Porsche as much as they think it did/does.

Someone who wants a car with only two seats is going to buy whatever Porsche is offering. Power is not the motivation for opting away from a Carrera. By and large most people are unwilling to pay at the high end for roadster. So unless they are saving themselves a ton of money by watering down the 996 egine which kind of runs contrary to economies of scale, then the only reason they do put less powerful engines in Boxsters is to give Carrera owners the impression that they've stepped up into something more powerful. It's the Porsche way, they're always trying to get you think you're current Porsche isn't the best Porsche you can own and that you need to go and buy a bigger more expensive one. It all culminates when you've bought three different Porsches and spent enough to buy a Ferrari. This is like a poser's mentality. A true sports car driver will buy a roadster if he wants a roadster, a GT3 if he wants a track toy or a C4S if he wants plush all year GT. I don't think anyone buys any of three primarily on the basis of power.

[Gary in BR]

I bought the 986 instead of a 996 because I like the 986's lines better than the 996.

The C2 and C4 are too plain looking for my taste.
I feel as if they need the aero kits to look right.

I rented a C2 Cab, one year in Scotsdale AZ and drove to Vegas in it. The 996's in my opinion are better cars than the 986. And, the 996's are worth the premium they demand.

Porsche leaves the power down on the Boxsters simply for marketing reasons.

Would you want a C2 Cab with 350 hp or a Boxster Super S with 350hp??

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by Gary in BR

I bought the 986 instead of a 996 because I like the 986's lines better than the 996.

The C2 and C4 are too plain looking for my taste.
I feel as if they need the aero kits to look right.

I rented a C2 Cab, one year in Scotsdale AZ and drove to Vegas in it. The 996's in my opinion are better cars than the 986. And, the 996's are worth the premium they demand.

Porsche leaves the power down on the Boxsters simply for marketing reasons.

Would you want a C2 Cab with 350 hp or a Boxster Super S with 350hp??

The later 986s interiors front end materials are almost indistinguishable from the 996s. From the seats forward its basically the same car. I can't think of two sports cars that share as many parts as the 986 and 996. Look at the part numbers on the Boxsters and you'll see they mostly start with the 996 prefix. If you look underneath the Cayman there plenty of 987 and 997 serial numbers in there as well.
There's not much of a premium for 996's over Boxsters lately...well if you've looked at the resale prices lately.
On my morning commutte I pass these two used Euro car dealers that have been selling the same two 996's for nearly four months now. I almost feel sad dor the Carreras.

[pk2]

It's called de-tunning and has been around since PT Barnum. Every manufacturer does it (that Intel box in front of you included). There may be a little more expensive metallurgy for strength in a 3.4, but he engineerings is already there ripe for the picking. No added cost there.

It also doesn't cost $30k to change the plumbing contortions and make the pistons and valves a wee bit bigger. Again, the engineerings done.

You can ring 300+hp out of a stock Box. motor, but it gets a bit messy and porsche makes it hard (fun though). A Box motor runs stock at a very modest “bang (hp) per liter” ...down there with a Miata.

Regards, PK

[gball]

I agree that it is largely marketing. Porsche will not allow anything to usurp the 911 in their lineup and if they put the 911 motor in the Boxster/Cayman it would most certainly give many potential customers something to think about.

My father in law is a 911 guy. He owns 4 of them, including the almighty Turbo, so I've had ample opportunity to compare and contrast the real-world driving dynamics of the cars and I genuinely believe that a Boxster with the same raw power as the 911 would easily outperform it. On stretches of mountain switchback I have no trouble staying with the 911's - they outpower me (to a rediculous extent) on straights, but the little Boxster owns them in the corners, and we arrive at destination together.

[Perfectlap]

^ I think allot of people forget that the little Boxster even at 3.2 is not at all underpowered as far as Porsches go.... A VTEC Honda today has more power than most of the 911's of the past, even going back just 10 or 12 years.