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pierre shags 11-16-2007 01:26 AM

I had a green Jag once; muddy cat prints looked great on it.

Grizzly 11-16-2007 06:32 AM

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If she's already been treated it's pretty important she be kept fairly stress free for awhile. (It takes quite awhile for the worms to die, break down and be eliminated by the immune system. Not like gastrointestinal worms that die and just get pooped out the next day!) This is even more true with an older dog. Occasionally dogs will go downhill and die following treatment. (It's fairly rare in my experience---I treated most of the ones I mentioned seeing in KC; I lost 2 or 3. Has she been showing symptoms (cough, exercise intolerance, etc.)? If so, it might be better to see if someone out there could foster her for a few weeks, until the critical post-treatment period is over.

Frodo,

She is in foster care now. She's been placed with a woman in Houston. When she was seized, her heartworm tests came back medium. They say that she is so happy to be out of the cage, she is "busy" checking out her new world. As such they the vet was afraid to treat her for heartworm, because he has lost a few active dogs in the past. Instead, he decided to treat her with Heartgard. Her last test came back light. The vet says that if she is continued on the Heartgard, she should be clear in 6-7 months without the risk of killing her. Sound right to you?

Also, what is the risk, if any, of my other dogs contracting heartworm from her. I know it's transmitted by mosquitos. Any other way? Of course, my dogs are on the preventive.

Brucelee 11-16-2007 10:37 AM

Leave the cat alone, shoot the neighbor.

:)

Frodo 11-16-2007 01:06 PM

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"...the vet was afraid to treat her for heartworm, because he has lost a few active dogs in the past. Instead, he decided to treat her with Heartgard. Her last test came back light. The vet says that if she is continued on the Heartgard, she should be clear in 6-7 months without the risk of killing her. Sound right to you?"

Posted by Grizzly.

Probably not a bad approach in this case. Though I've not seen the results of any studies on this, it has become a somewhat common approach to treating 'high risk' cases. Ivermectin, the active ingredient in HeartGard, doesn't kill the adult heartworms outright, but that is actually a good thing in older and/or symptomatic dogs. (It's the sudden worm death caused by adulticide therapy that, while usually safe, can potentially cause problems in such cases.) Don't know about the 6-7 month figure (like I said, haven't seen any studies on the matter), but it hardly matters. Just keep her on the preventative and you'll (1) prevent her from acquiring a new generation of heartworms, and (presumably) (2) slowly kill off the ones she's now got. Though some people stop heartworm preventative during the winter months, this is a dog I'd probably keep on it year-round.

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"Also, what is the risk, if any, of my other dogs contracting heartworm from her. I know it's transmitted by mosquitos. Any other way? Of course, my dogs are on the preventive."

Posted by Grizzly.

No other (known) means of transmission other than through the mosquito. In fact, I've been told by a parasitologist that you could draw blood from a HW positive dog (containing the microfilaria, the HW 'babies' if you will), inject it into another dog (even one not on HW preventative) and it still will not develop HW disease. The larve undergo some transition within the mosquito without which they don't develop into adults. Isn't parasitology fascinating??

The chances of your dogs getting HW from this dog, with them on HW preventative?: essentially zero.

You're a good man, doin' this Grizz. Rescued dogs, while sometimes requiring some patience while they get socialized and warm up to their new surroundings and new family, almost always make GREAT pets.

insite 11-16-2007 01:14 PM

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Bill, you're a genius! Chicken Chow Meow it is!

sweet and sour kitten
kitty chops
feline flambay
mashed kitten
scrambled kitten with toast
kitty wellington
crackers with kitten paste
cat roast

PM for the recipies; they are wonderful.

Franco 11-16-2007 03:31 PM

I'M So Sad

SPEEDY RECOVERY MY SISTER :)

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...ghdfhdfh17.jpg

Grizzly 11-16-2007 03:37 PM

Insite,

You actually made me laugh hard enough that I had back a spasm. It was "mashed kitten" that got me. I'm probably gonna have to sue you now. Has anyone heard from Jeffsquire?

Frodo,

Thank you so much for all the information. I'm happy to know that my girls are not in danger of contracting heart worm from their new sister.

insite 11-16-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly
Insite,

You actually made me laugh hard enough that I had back a spasm. It was "mashed kitten" that got me. I'm probably gonna have to sue you now.

glad i could help! that's a personal favorite.

Uncle Bob 11-16-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by insite
sweet and sour kitten
kitty chops
feline flambay
mashed kitten
scrambled kitten with toast
kitty wellington
crackers with kitten paste
cat roast

PM for the recipies; they are wonderful.

Don't forget one of my personal favorites:

Straight from Tijuana...Kitty Taco

Bambino Don 11-17-2007 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacques79
What the hell is wrong with you?

You're seriously thinking of killing an innocent cat? What you plan on shooting it?


Geez just scare it off somehow.


I hope you were kidding about hurting that cat, if not you're a sicko.


He wasnt going to blast a neighbours cat!!

I once chased a cat of my old TT and as it jumped from the room onto the bodywork skidded as it was waxed, claws came out paintwork scratched.

Now i think an eye for an eye........................ :)


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