HELP! I need someone to talk me out of this!

[Bambino Don]

Originally Posted by NickCats

I really like this :

Me too i love it and my Dad has that exact car arriving next month.

And i suppose as a testiment to this topic, he has had a Boxster S, a 996 Carrera 4 (gt3 rep) and currently Cayman and he says the best for him is the Cayman due to the fact he is 46 years old and doesnt like the attention of the Cabrio (even tho he has a full head of dark hair and looks mid 30's)
And he felt with the 996 even tho it was 4 wheel drive there wasnt the driving fun, he liked it and respected it never loved it. Stupid people said he was stepping back down to a Cayman, Rubbish its the balls, i love it. So he has had it 6months(from new) or so and decided to get a different Porsche saw a pic of the Design Edition and that was him, his perfect car!!

If i was getting a 996 i would get an 04+

James

[wild1poet2]

I get that too, except I'm looking at C6 Vettes.... LOL

I don't like the look of the Porsche cabrio's other than the Boxster, and after awhile a hardtop seems too much like "just another cage" no matter how fast it goes.

And Corvette is rumored to be developing a mid engined Vette.

[xxxalexxxx]

i say go for it, id probably get one too when i get married and have kids...more room, still a Porsche...

[nola911]

OK, I found one 996 I am interested in, with only 1 problem... mileage..

My box is a 2000 with 40k, the 911 is a 1999 with 75k. I can buy it from the guy for 25, with litronics, 2003 bumper/lights upgrade, 19 inch wheels. The value seems right, but the mileage makes me nervous. For the price of a warranty, I can buy a newer car. Is 75 too many? It seems more likely to have normal wear problems like clutch, brakes, ect.

The speed of the 911 is tempting. But, I love my boxster and I know I won't be putting the baby in it. Maybe I should wait for a few cayman s to hit the streets, and get speed and handling.

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

[blinkwatt]

You might as well drop the speed aspect right now....it never ends no matter what you drive. Go check out 6-speedonline,996 Turbo section you will see what I'm talking about.

75k is kind of high but there are some pros to it. Most of the major problems like an engine failure or 2nd gear issue should have shown by now. So you really wouldn't have to worry about an extended warranty.Your worried about the clutch? Come on now,these are sports cars,your gonna drive them fast and your gonna have wear and tear items wear out. Look at the clutches on these cars,they seem to go at any time. Some people get 30k out of a clutch some get 150k,you never know which way it will go.

Whatever you do get a PPI so you know what to expect with it.

Originally Posted by maxferran

OK, I found one 996 I am interested in, with only 1 problem... mileage..

My box is a 2000 with 40k, the 911 is a 1999 with 75k. I can buy it from the guy for 25, with litronics, 2003 bumper/lights upgrade, 19 inch wheels. The value seems right, but the mileage makes me nervous. For the price of a warranty, I can buy a newer car. Is 75 too many? It seems more likely to have normal wear problems like clutch, brakes, ect.

The speed of the 911 is tempting. But, I love my boxster and I know I won't be putting the baby in it. Maybe I should wait for a few cayman s to hit the streets, and get speed and handling.

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Find 1 with lower miles. that seems to high for me

[nola911]

Well, not worried about clutch per se, but it was a good example of the type of maintenance that is present at 75k. What about total engine failure due to RMS or another sneaky pest? The small things that go with owning cars is fine with me, but I do not want to have to replace a 12k engine on a car that costs 12 more.

Drop the speed thing? heh, that would be my only motivation to trade cars.

[blinkwatt]

Originally Posted by maxferran

Well, not worried about clutch per se, but it was a good example of the type of maintenance that is present at 75k. What about total engine failure due to RMS or another sneaky pest? The small things that go with owning cars is fine with me, but I do not want to have to replace a 12k engine on a car that costs 12 more.

Drop the speed thing? heh, that would be my only motivation to trade cars.

A RMS does not cause a engine failure. RMS just drips a little oil. Your thinking of a IMS failure,once that happens the engine is blown in a couple of seconds. Like I said,the engine failure happen at low mileage so at 75k your in the clear(from what I've seen).

By the way,RMS leaking tends to happen if the car sits,i.e. low mileage babies.

[nola911]

Well, this one is out anyway, I did a carfax and its had 2 serious wrecks. I think I will leave this alone for a while, I would be nuts to get rid of my car in the shape it is in.

[blinkwatt]

Originally Posted by maxferran

Well, this one is out anyway, I did a carfax and its had 2 serious wrecks. I think I will leave this alone for a while, I would be nuts to get rid of my car in the shape it is in.

How could you tell from the Carfax that it was a serious wreck?

Carfax is garbage when it comes to anything anymore. I ran it on my car,said the car was in for 'vechile repair',I had the dealer that worked on it look it up.....they replaced a brake light. I even matched it up with a receipts that came with my car.

Carfax=pointless(unless used for ownership purposes)

[nola911]

Here is the thing. It had a wreck in 98... LONG before the front end that is now on it was ever made, that means it has been replaced 3 times. I sent you a PM with the link to the rennlist discussion about the very car I was going to buy. I thought you would find it interesting, since I am no longer considering it, here it is.

The seller wouldnt return my email about a PPI at a dealership. I think I know why now. I offered 24k through ebay with a ton of questions, he countered at 25 with no answers..

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=391126

[blinkwatt]

Originally Posted by maxferran

Here is the thing. It had a wreck in 98... LONG before the front end that is now on it was ever made, that means it has been replaced 3 times. I sent you a PM with the link to the rennlist discussion about the very car I was going to buy. I thought you would find it interesting, since I am no longer considering it, here it is.

The seller wouldnt return my email about a PPI at a dealership. I think I know why now. I offered 24k through ebay with a ton of questions, he countered at 25 with no answers..

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=391126

Hmm that is interesting. Thanks for linking it. Too much stuff has a '?' mark on it to even spend more than 10k on it.

I think 996 owners are in denial,I've seen plenty at sub 30k with motivated sellers.

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_41_%7CB-30000%7CD-_386_%7CN-N%7CR-150%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-95831&aff=national&paId=247379844&recnum=0&leadExists=true

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_41_%7CB-30000%7CD-_386_%7CN-N%7CR-150%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-95831&aff=national&paId=247997080&recnum=1&leadExists=false

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_41_%7CB-30000%7CD-_386_%7CN-N%7CR-150%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-95831&aff=national&paId=229644716&recnum=2&leadExists=true

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_41_%7CB-30000%7CD-_386_%7CN-N%7CR-150%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-95831&aff=national&paId=248703964&recnum=6&leadExists=false

That's just from a quick 30 minutes search.

[nola911]

Yeah, I have found some really good deals, many low mileage ones for less than 30, I just need to stop looking. I love the box and I have springs and short shift in the mail right now. Maybe, I will keep my eyes open for the perfect S...

What caught my eye on the one posted was the front end, it would be nice to not have to do the gen. 2 996 conversion myself.

[Perfectlap]

yeah...if you have a high mileage old (1999-01) 996 you're better off keeping it than selling it. The value is only going to continue to fall until it hits about 20K.
Then the bargain bulls will swoop in for their first 911.
I wasn't at all impressed with the power of the 3.6 compared to my 3.2.
It didn't handle nearly as well as my S and I'm not even remotely a fan of pendulus 911 cornering. Interior was identical of course.... But I wouldn't sneeze at a well priced C4 with low miles. It would be a great winter car. Although I would want a 2002 which comes at a bigger price entry. The 2002-2004 996's are the best looking 911's in my opine. I can't stand those round 993,997 round lights. Fried eggs or Turbo lights all the way.

[SC986]

I haven't been on much lately due to this same subject. I've been looking but most '99's are in the 32k to 36k range around here. The few I've seen less were really worn on the inside, even with mileage in the 50's.

I found a '99 with 23k miles, three year warranty and service records for $31,500 I'm considering. I haven't put forth the effort to try and sell the S yet.