Mirror Mirror on the Wall is this the poser's board after all?

Just a little rant...


I don't know what brings me to posting this, and this will likely get me banned or gain me much disdain, contempt and flaming. Frankly I don't know what I have to profit from sharing this with you. I'm basically shooting myself in the foot. It's a feeling that has grown since I've stayed here, and it's becoming more apparent the more I see and discuss things here. I must get this off my chest. The truth must be told. I do not mean to insult everyone here, but I fear I ultimately will.

So here I go down the slippery slopes...

On the whole, as a group of posters, I find this group of forum members more articulate than most but far more ignorant and opinionated than hoped. A pigeon hole type mentality is pervasive. Creative thinking is the rarity. Problem solving or modding a forgone conclusion. Dare I say the boxster criticism of Poser Porsche seems to fit. And fit well on average . I think that really sucks because the boxster is a capable performance car that has yet more to offer. I belong to several other internet forums and this one is the worst in terms of factual info and objectivity. On average, this forum's info is largely biased and not well thought out. It is not only closed minded, but oppressively so.



There are shining exceptions to this, tool pants, grizzly, randallneighboor, bismoto engineering, etc... (forgive me if I forgot you on the list...)


Do I need to get a 911 and hang with them? No, I'm not drunk... no I'm not on meds... just a little fed up with the poser mentality here. There, I feel better. What I can't play in this sandbox anymore??

Uh huh....

[Wonko The Sane]

Umm... I do wish to know what other forums you hang out on.. I'd say the signal-to-noise (i.e.: Factual information/help vs. guessing or superstition) is at least on par with the other automotive forums I'm on.

I will say that this forum seems to endorse ascetics (sp?) mods more than almost any others I'm on. You guys seem all for it and understand the concept of "It's your money, and your car, do what you want" than most of the others I'm on :thumbsup:

The people here are rather nice as well... So I cannot agree with anything said in your argument, sorry.

[humara]

bye! :ah:

[boxstershorts]

People here helped me out with my rookie questions. And they did it without judgement. I was made to feel welcome here.
The variety of technical gurus, posers, or simple stock boxster driving lovers are what adds color to this forum.
What I've seen the least of in here is disrespect, and that's what I appreciate. Some like the drive, some like to pose, some like to tinker and others just like to help out. I don't mind any of them.
Cheers!

This is a time I wish MN was here... Hed know how to step it up.

[Grizzly]

MN? Please, dude.

Ha, I almost forgot about that till you brought it up. But seriously, I dont think anyone could be as belligerent as him and mean it.

[unklekraker]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

MN? Please, dude. The backs of my hands are still bruised from slapping him around.

So, Grizz...you're the reason then that's why he's not around aymore..hehehehehehehe!

I'm a poser that drive a boxster

but if i hang around in 911 forum and talk like i know what i'm talking about..now that's a poser

[nola911]

What is anyone posing as? I don't fully understand.

Converting a boxter into a carrera gt is posing.

Talking about boxster performance, looks, apple stocks, and reliability seems pretty real to me.

[Grizzly]

Where you been, Unkle? I was just thinking that I hadn't heard from you lately.

No, I'm not the reason Jim's gone, but I can't say I'm upset about his demise. In the end, Jim did himself in. It's a great story. I only wish I could tell it.

I do my best at being tolerant of everyone. I know it takes all kinds to make the world go round. It's the disquise I can't stand. I mean come as you are, and say it like a man. If you're gay, well hell you are gay! (not that there is anything wrong with that) Humara come on out! If you're a poser, then I don't see the point of posting on performance matters and passing it off in some objective manner when it is not. That what bugs me. What seems to be lacking here is honestly. In it's place I see a lot of posturing. For example the PSM thread, it doesn't seem strange to anyone else all the naysayers don't even have PSM or experienced it? So how in the world are they giving "objective" opinions on the matter is a puzzle to me?




PS. stay tuned for MN boxster reveal... You may need to send a search party.

What is this? Clue? You gonna bop colonel mustard with the candle stick? Speak coherently and concisely, not in riddles and questionable jokes that aren't funny.

[unklekraker]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

Where you been, Unkle? I was just thinking that I hadn't heard from you lately.

No, I'm not the reason Jim's gone, but I can't say I'm upset about his demise. In the end, Jim did himself in. It's a great story. I only wish I could tell it.

dude, i've been so busy lately...now that the school starts, kids homework starts too....aaargghhhh, my brain is hurting

plus, being IT System Engineer Support Supervisor (hardware group) and Senior IT Consultant in insurance company is very challenging, esp..if you don't really know why you got promoted..hehehehehehehe

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by unklekraker

dude, i've been so busy lately...now that the school starts, kids homework starts too....aaargghhhh, my brain is hurting

Dude! You're not supposed to do the homework! The kids are supposed to do the homework!

@boxsterz- Sorry I'm ruining your thread. I'm going to go read the PSM piece right now. I don't have PSM or know anything about it, so I didn't read it before...Be right back.

[unklekraker]

your right but most of the time, I just help...

aight, guys.....don't want to see this thread go down the drain :dance:


You guys Rock and this is the best forum....EVER!

It's cool Griz. I'm just testy I guess

[Grizzly]

O.K., I'm back. I guess I see your point Boxsterz, but it's not hard to tell the players from the bull****************ters. I find that's the case with a lot of threads. You just have to listen for the real conversation over the static. At times, the static ends up providing some great comic relief...or starting really entertaining throw-downs.

Occasionally it's annoying to have to wade through the crap, but there's enough good information and camaraderie here to make it all worthwhile. At least I think so.

[meerzee]

Originally Posted by boxsterz

Just a little rant...


I don't know what brings me to posting this, and this will likely get me banned or gain me much disdain, contempt and flaming. Frankly I don't know what I have to profit from sharing this with you. I'm basically shooting myself in the foot. It's a feeling that has grown since I've stayed here, and it's becoming more apparent the more I see and discuss things here. I must get this off my chest. The truth must be told. I do not mean to insult everyone here, but I fear I ultimately will.

So here I go down the slippery slopes...

On the whole, as a group of posters, I find this group of forum members more articulate than most but far more ignorant and opinionated than hoped. A pigeon hole type mentality is pervasive. Creative thinking is the rarity. Problem solving or modding a forgone conclusion. Dare I say the boxster criticism of Poser Porsche seems to fit. And fit well on average . I think that really sucks because the boxster is a capable performance car that has yet more to offer. I belong to several other internet forums and this one is the worst in terms of factual info and objectivity. On average, this forum's info is largely biased and not well thought out. It is not only closed minded, but oppressively so.



There are shining exceptions to this, tool pants, grizzly, randallneighboor, bismoto engineering, etc... (forgive me if I forgot you on the list...)


Do I need to get a 911 and hang with them? No, I'm not drunk... no I'm not on meds... just a little fed up with the poser mentality here. There, I feel better. What I can't play in this sandbox anymore??

I am confused as to what you are trying to say. Is your only definition of a true Boxster enthusiast someone that is calling up Gambella and ordering every single kit, aero package, SC, or add-on they can afford? Are you upset because we actually talk about life within the boundaries of this forum and are not spewing out commentary about 0-60, ET, track days, slicks & camber setting at each and every turn? I didn't purchase a 986 nor join this forum for purpose of turning my roadster into a fast & furious Toyko Drift competitor. Is that "poser speak" because I don't have the need to race every single ricer gunning at each light? I think it is called maturity and understanding for what the Boxster is and what it is not. I can mod a Civic into one hell of a popcorn machine capable of impressive launch times, jerky twists and stoplight thrills, but at the end of the day, I still have a used and abused Honda.....not exactly what I would call: refined.

"Do I need to get a 911 and hang with them?" I think that line is quite revealing....
Do you need to feel better about yourself and your car selection? I think that line points to a character issue that you might be having with yourself much more so than the company you keep here on this forum. What do you want or expect this forum community to do for you? What do you expect from your Boxster? In line with the other forums, I don't see the bickering nor the aimlessness that I observe over at ppbb, but I agree at on the General Forum it is not as technical as the RennTech board.

I used to race Vettes AX and SCCA for many years, and I simply got tired of the constant modding, the MSD this or not, the Lunati this, the Camfield this, Hurst, No2, boost discussion, fuel cells, helmets, everything......It was loud, extremely fast, essentially ridiculous & just over the top. I don't want to feed that side of my personality anymore, if that is "poser speak", then call me guilty. I am a professional, so I desire to be slightly more refined, controlled and confident without having to prove it by popping clutches and race redlines at every stoplight. It is essentially called maturity & inner confidence.

Perhaps you believe you will gain more confidence in yourself by driving a 911.
Somehow, I still think you will be left wanting.......and finding fault where essentially there is none to be found, at least outside yourself and your own judgements.

All the best.

[Sputter]

I was confused too. I kinda chocked it up to him having a bad day.
There are more tech type boards around so i guess i fail to see the issue.
I see this board as a less formal place (opinions etc).