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Perfectlap 07-31-2007 08:47 AM

look how easily GT3 997 can be wrecked
 
I once sat in a 996 GT3 in a torrential downpour, scariest drive of my life.
But I thought well I guess its only easy to lose in the wet....NOT

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LZpJYWe8s0A

p.s.
I'm surprised this guy didn't let go of the wheel just before impact. That's a good way to hurt yourself. But I guess its hard to think in such a situation.

blinkwatt 07-31-2007 08:55 AM

Is that smoke near the end of the video?

jordan986 07-31-2007 08:59 AM

I think its dust smoke would really suck no insurace when ur on the track!!

edit: nope deff smoke :ah:

Back2DTM 07-31-2007 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by blinkwatt
Is that smoke near the end of the video?

It is from the airbag.

Boxter 07-31-2007 09:30 AM

wow!....that will get the blood going.
thanks for posting

djomlas 07-31-2007 10:13 AM

im surprised that throughout the whole video he didn't say a word.
i know if that happened to me it would be bleep bleep all over the place.

Dr. Kill 07-31-2007 10:15 AM

What exactly went wrong there? I was watching with no sound (at the office) - didn't know if there was some clue I missed?

Back2DTM 07-31-2007 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Kill
What exactly went wrong there? I was watching with no sound (at the office) - didn't know if there was some clue I missed?

Looks like he carried too much speed + over correction with the steering + braking while losing traction.

Perfectlap 07-31-2007 11:08 AM

no i don't think he was going too fast. If you look at the very momment he rides up on the curb the rear of the car starts to swing out and he wasn't prepared.
Not sure if that could have been prevented with an eariler reaction. He also might have erroneously let off the gas just slightly, when when he made contact with the curb.

But I'm just amazed at how easily it happened. I would have thought that the whole 911 'superior rear grip due to weight over the rear axle' theory would have given the driver a little more lattitude.

CJ_Boxster 07-31-2007 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinkwatt
Is that smoke near the end of the video?

Its airbag gases

hdpt73 07-31-2007 01:24 PM

From the looks of this video, I think my 1992 toyota corolla can outhandle a 911 gt3. All that money wasted on buying performance when you have to relearn how to drive a backarse rear weight car.

bmussatti 07-31-2007 01:48 PM

WOW!

That's how my Porsche Sport Exhaust sounds!

boxsterz 07-31-2007 02:36 PM

Did the guy have PASM/PSM on?

How does insurance work for something like this? Call to State Farm agent, "I have no idea what happened, I came out to my driveway this morning and this is what I saw..." :eek:

Back2DTM 07-31-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by boxsterz
Did the guy have PASM/PSM on?

How does insurance work for something like this? Call to State Farm agent, "I have no idea what happened, I came out to my driveway this morning and this is what I saw..." :eek:

I rememeber no insurance company covers off-road driving.
He would have to pay for it himself or made up a fraud.

Perfectlap 07-31-2007 03:32 PM

well typically you buy extra insurance for track events. Being that this happened in Belgium I'm sure they are more willing to offer insurance for these sort of things at much lower rates vs. the USA where there is a lawyer camped out in the parking lot waiting to have a chat with the guy who just wrecked his $100,000.00 Porsche. "Oh yeah sure I saw the whole thing, I think we need to look at those Michelin Cup Tires I bet you they were faulty."
At the Nurburgring you sign a waiver that basically says its all your own fault if you crash. Yet the scrape people off that road every day, they keep coming in bikes and cars to go flat out.

Wonko The Sane 07-31-2007 04:39 PM

If I lived near the ring, I'd be flat broke from going every day, but damned if I wouldn't see what my yugo (All that I would be able to afford after track fees.repairs) could do!

trogdor 07-31-2007 05:43 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LYDEHQWsgyc&mode=related&search=

cursed

Boxter 07-31-2007 07:39 PM

nice follow up....

blueillusion97 07-31-2007 11:04 PM

Outch!!! Thats wasnt a nice day for him...

Perfectlap 08-01-2007 06:48 AM

Imagine what this woman could do in that GT3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os16l7oeFjE&mode=related&search=

timothy 08-01-2007 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap
Imagine what this woman could do in that GT3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os16l7oeFjE&mode=related&search=

Love it! That video is a timeless classic. It never gets old and makes me laugh every time.

skip_168 08-01-2007 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by trogdor

you can see what happened there.. combination of an unloaded suspension at the top of the hill, correcting a wide line through the turn, and adding power, results in the spin...

Dr. Kill 08-01-2007 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap
Imagine what this woman could do in that GT3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os16l7oeFjE&mode=related&search=

That rolled over awfully easy.

porsche986spyder 08-01-2007 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trogdor

Wow, that looks like the same track and the same turn as the other video. Both going uphill and then just after that section they both wreck.

zackwatt 08-01-2007 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap
Imagine what this woman could do in that GT3!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os16l7oeFjE&mode=related&search=

OMG LOL LOL LOL, That is classic!

RandallNeighbour 08-01-2007 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
Wow, that looks like the same track and the same turn as the other video. Both going uphill and then just after that section they both wreck.

I believe you are seeing the same car from two different angles. The first is the cam on the driver's helmet. The second is the car he passed, who also had a camera in the car. Watch the first one again and you'll see the second cam-enabled car.

Back2DTM 08-01-2007 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
Wow, that looks like the same track and the same turn as the other video. Both going uphill and then just after that section they both wreck.

I think that camera car was the one who was passed in the first video.

Perfectlap 08-01-2007 09:36 AM

the onboard car is seal grey. the 2nd car is black.

either way the similarity of the two wrecks tells me the weight distribution of the car makes it prone to driver error in this particular type of corner. Which incidentally is one of the five most famous flat out corners in sports car world, used to be even more extreme.
p.s.
I bet you if I were doing that same speed in my BoxsterS I would not spin and if I did I wouldn't do a rear end hammer throw into the wall. The mid engine car would not travel far from the point of the spin.... far away from the wall, albeit with less warning than the 911.

porsche986spyder 08-01-2007 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap
the onboard car is seal grey. the 2nd car is black.

That's what I noticed too. Makes me wonder if it is indeed the same track? It certainly looks like it. I can only asume that particular area of the track must be a difficult spot to get through in that type of Porsche. They both had the same problems. :cheers:

Perfectlap 08-01-2007 01:20 PM

Yeah its the same track Spa in Belgium. aka 'the driver's circuit'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_de_Spa-Francorchamps


always made me think of the big hill at Road Atlanta

http://www.spa-francorchamps.be/gfx/...s/BLD_5388.jpg

boxsterz 08-02-2007 05:16 PM

It's the same track for sure. 2 different events. Vid 1 (1st person) doesn't pass cam car in correct location, besides Vid 2, car spins 360 degrees, Vid 1, no spin.

racer_d 08-03-2007 01:20 PM

It's only a flat out corner if

1) Your car is really slow or

2) Your cajones are amply sized or

3) your car creates mucho downforce ;)

F1 cars go flat out (then again, they create what, 2000lbs of downforce (on a 1300lb car?)

I don't want to critique our original GT3 vid, but I can see the car getting light as it crests, plus what seems to be a gentle nudge of the turtles/curbing.. it looks lit he was going to save it but seemed to overcorrect at that speed and whoosh.. smack.


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