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motoadve 07-12-2007 06:01 AM

Is the Sport crono package same as chip upgrade?
 
What does the Sport crono package does compared to a chip upgrade?
Which would you choose?

1JB 07-12-2007 06:27 AM

No they are not the same. The Sport Chrono package does 2 things, increased throttle response with less pressure on the pedal and tunes down when PSM kicks in. If you have PASM it may also make the suspension stiffer but I can't remember with certainty.

A chip updgrade may also do these things but is primarily intended to get more horsepower of the car by remapping whatever they can electronically to claim more HP. It's also a great way to void your warranty or at a minimum make your warranty claim a miserable experience if you have any problems with the car related to the engine, exhaust or electronics. Porsche can detect a different chip. You may be able to replace it with the original if you have problems and take it in but if they still are able to detect the chip was there, ask you if you had a chip and you say "no" well that's fraud and the warranty coverage conversation will likely end right there until you hire a lawyer. I'd only chip a car if it was out of warranty. "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're all not out to get me."

motoadve 07-12-2007 09:04 AM

It should just be a software reprogram right?
I dont care about the clock.

SD987 07-12-2007 12:46 PM

I'm curious how you're planning on "installing" Sports Chrono. It's not available as an add-on, software or otherwise from the other 220+ dealers in the US.

motoadve 07-12-2007 12:52 PM

I found out its not possible.
Although a GIAC ECU reprogram might get the same effect or even better , according to some tech guys.

SD987 07-12-2007 01:28 PM

Improvements from chips/ECU modifications are suspect at best and normally predicated on running high octane fuel, a shortage of which is apparently already plaguing you in the CR, per your other post. I suspect this would be a monumental waste of money in addition to any flack you'd get from Porsche per 1JB's post.

Porsche has taken the same 2.7 mill that originally produced @217 hp and have managed 8 years later to get 245 hp out of it. Frankly, I think they've pretty much wrung ever hp out of it and the 3.2. Note that to get 15 more hp into the S they actually ended up bumping the displacement (not the only reason, but you get the point).

motoadve 07-12-2007 01:40 PM

I read the base Boxster 09 will have 270 HP.
I found out that here I can get up to 91 octanes.
Is that still too low.

The GIAC representative will let me use the ECU upgrade for 2 weeks to see if I like it or not.
So might try it just to see, since my warranty has expired anyway.

SD987 07-12-2007 02:08 PM

With regard to GIAC specifically, they've created performance tuning software for most of the 986 variants, but not specifically for the 987 so I'd be curious what is being sold to you, it's often helpful to read the fine print. Their 986 software is compatible with 91 fuel (but apparently requires a CAI for optimization).

There are entire web pages devoted to speculating on forthcoming Porsche models, so I won't comment other than to say that Porsche will do what it has to to be competitive...but just. Thankfully the other German auto-makers are engaged in a substantial HP war otherwise we'd see the miserly improvements in power that marked the course of the 986 evolution.

motoadve 07-12-2007 02:30 PM

Thanks for pointing that out, I will call them and ask why is not the 987 listed by they are offering it to me.

motoadve 07-12-2007 03:02 PM

I cannot get the phone number of GIAC USA anywhere, can anyone please provide it to me?

I have 19497240001 but says the number is not valid

I want to make certain that the representatives here are not telling me stories

NickCats 07-12-2007 05:58 PM

motoadve,

They do show it available for the Cayman, so I would think it would work with the 987 :

http://www.giacusa.com/programs.php?mpid=133

Perhaps you can send them an email, I cannot find a direct number on their web site :

http://www.giacusa.com/contact_us.php

No dealers in Costa Rica, but a couple in Mexico :

http://www.giacusa.com/dealers.php

Hope this helps...

Nick

eslai 07-12-2007 07:05 PM

I really wouldn't bother with a chip upgrade, man. Leave the computer tuning to a time when you have modifications on the car that could really benefit from a fuel map adjustment.

motoadve 07-12-2007 07:45 PM

Thanks a lot for the information.


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