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boxterdad 07-22-2010 04:51 PM

passenger airbag disable
 
I need the air bag disable for a 2002 boxster--booster seat, bolts, etc. right now! Please call 505-344-2689. THANKS!

jonnyj99 08-01-2010 11:14 PM

I asked the list how to remove the passenger airbag. I had some answers, but nobody seems to have done it with themselves.Working airbag modules are dangerous. If you live in a dry, staticy conditions, be especially careful, because the module can be deployed for a relatively small electrical pulse.

boxterdad 08-11-2010 05:27 PM

Thanks, but...
 
this is a very poorly documented subject, apparently due to liability issues...I can buy some of the parts from the Porsche dealer, but not everything--can anyone help???

Aron in Toronto 08-18-2010 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billthomas
Porsche Airbag Deactivation Kit.
Comes with the LATCH system, an easy-to-fit option provides mounting points between the seat and backrest, along with a key that deactivates passenger-side airbags (a requirement for fitting Porsche child seats into position).


Professional installation required at an authorized Porsche dealer.



http://www.eagleday.com/pochsase.html

That kit is for the early 987 (05 ?) models.

The original poster needs the airbag deactivation bar style kit below for his '02.

http://www.****************************************************.com/product/99680308302.html?Category_Code=986seat

http://i38.tinypic.com/28s98vt.jpg

tamarsha 08-19-2010 10:08 AM

I just found out that I am going to be needing one of these myself.

For my '03 it looks like this is my best option...
http://www.****************************************************.com/product/PNA98601300.html?Category_Code=986seat

Note: To avoid risk of injury from a deploying airbag, never place a child age 12 or under in a front seating position without a dealer installed airbag deactivation device. Comes with deactivation unit that must be installed by an authorized Porsche Dealer.

Now the next question... will the Durametric software set up the computer for the deactivation bar or will I need a PSTII?

Aron in Toronto 08-20-2010 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamarsha
I just found out that I am going to be needing one of these myself.

For my '03 it looks like this is my best option...
http://www.****************************************************.com/product/PNA98601300.html?Category_Code=986seat

Note: To avoid risk of injury from a deploying airbag, never place a child age 12 or under in a front seating position without a dealer installed airbag deactivation device. Comes with deactivation unit that must be installed by an authorized Porsche Dealer.

Now the next question... will the Durametric software set up the computer for the deactivation bar or will I need a PSTII?


If that seat comes with the deactivation bar as it says in the ad then it looks like a good deal (at least in Porsche $$). I'd give Suncoast a quick call before ordering just to confirm that that's the one for 986 models and that it does come with the deactivation bar.

I don't know if the Durametric will activate your car's computer to recognize the deactivation bar but the dealer should install it at no cost as I think they are able to charge the fee back to PCNA for this. Call your dealer to see if this is still the case (it was back in 03-04 when I had mine installed), and see if they will match Suncoast's price on the parts.

And congratulations on the new (or soon to be) arrival!

hanskestler 12-11-2010 09:12 AM

I have one
 
Booster seat and deactivation bar I used in my 02 BoxS. Email for pics/pricing.

boxterdad 01-11-2011 10:39 AM

Found the parts at Porsche
 
If anyone needs the parts, like myself, they can be ordered from Porsche: the parts needed are the airbag deactivation bar (code: 99680308302 about $230) and Porsche Plus Child seat, 33-80 lbs. (code: 00004480291 about $320); the parts will need to be installed and coded by authorized Porsche Dealership--thanks to Suncoast Porsche for providing the part numbers and information that I had been researching for months!!!

Jaxonalden 01-11-2011 12:23 PM

Durametric software does not include the load to deactivate the passenger side airbag. The dealership will charge $100 for this service.

tamarsha 01-13-2011 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxonalden
Durametric software does not include the load to deactivate the passenger side airbag. The dealership will charge $100 for this service.

$100?!?!?!? Is that from experience? All of the stories I have heard was that the dealer would do it for free because it is a safety thing. It would reflect very poorly on them if they try to charge you. I have the bar installed in my ’03 but have not turned it on in the computer yet. I have a few more months till I need to have it going.
$100?!?!? Hell, they only charged me $75 to turn on the OBC.

Aron in Toronto 01-14-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamarsha
$100?!?!?!? Is that from experience? All of the stories I have heard was that the dealer would do it for free because it is a safety thing. It would reflect very poorly on them if they try to charge you. I have the bar installed in my ’03 but have not turned it on in the computer yet. I have a few more months till I need to have it going.
$100?!?!? Hell, they only charged me $75 to turn on the OBC.


My dealer initially wanted to charge for the install and activation of the bar, but when I mentioned that PCNA had been reimbursing dealers for this work they waived the charge.

My invoice states that the work was done under warranty. Keep in mind this work was done back in 2003, so the policy may not be the same now, but it can’t to ask.

Jaxonalden 01-19-2011 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamarsha
$100?!?!?!? Is that from experience? All of the stories I have heard was that the dealer would do it for free because it is a safety thing. It would reflect very poorly on them if they try to charge you. I have the bar installed in my ’03 but have not turned it on in the computer yet. I have a few more months till I need to have it going.
$100?!?!? Hell, they only charged me $75 to turn on the OBC.


$75 sounds right for the OBC...I used my Durametric for free. I checked with my local Dealership and they want $100 and that's only if they install the bar. They will not accept the liability if it's installed incorrectly and they deactivate the bag.

tamarsha 01-31-2011 03:00 PM

I finally had the airbag deactivation bar coded by the dealer today. This dealer isn't really known for their friendly customer service and they only charged $49.95. Not too bad.

Skimd 04-06-2011 03:37 PM

Airbag deactivation bar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boxterdad
I need the air bag disable for a 2002 boxster--booster seat, bolts, etc. right now! Please call 505-344-2689. THANKS!

Don't know if you are still looking for one.
My kids are grown....it is easy to install. (have to lay on belly for about 30').
Need proper torx wrench.

Let me know if you are interested....I'll save you some $$$. The one I have is from Porsche...not aftermarket which sell for $260.

Glen

Love my Boxster S!!!
skimd123@yahoo.com

bight 07-16-2011 06:05 PM

Do you still have the bar?
 
My kids can't wait for a ride. Safety first.

wr5931 07-17-2011 05:17 PM

Just went to the dealer and had them order and install the bar.... $520.00 with labor..... the seat was a extra 500.00 ....

BrokenLinkage 11-30-2011 03:12 PM

Is this necessary?
 
My kids are all old enough to be forward facing now, and based on another thread on this site, I don't consider it beneficial to turn off the airbag anymore. But... if I wanted to, couldn't I just splice a labeled switch to short between the 2 wires under the passenger seat that the deactivation bar plugs into? In other words, does the forward buckle on the porsche child seats simply short across these wires when the buckle is inserted, or does it show the computer a certain specific resistance value that my switch would have to provide? Of course, the computer would still have to be programmed to recognize the signal. This would then have the advantage of allowing the use of any brand of car seat.

tamarsha 11-30-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenLinkage (Post 266341)
My kids are all old enough to be forward facing now, and based on another thread on this site, I don't consider it beneficial to turn off the airbag anymore. But... if I wanted to, couldn't I just splice a labeled switch to short between the 2 wires under the passenger seat that the deactivation bar plugs into? In other words, does the forward buckle on the porsche child seats simply short across these wires when the buckle is inserted, or does it show the computer a certain specific resistance value that my switch would have to provide? Of course, the computer would still have to be programmed to recognize the signal. This would then have the advantage of allowing the use of any brand of car seat.

Sound very logical. Unfortunately I am not sure it will work. When I bolted the deactivation bar into place, I hooked it up all before I took it to the dealer to code it in the computer. With it hooked up and no buckle in place (normal airbag on mode) the airbag light was flashing when I turned the car on. It was almost saying that something is hooked up and it isn't supposed to be. I didn't ohm out the plug or see if maybe it is a normally closed switch. I guess it is possible but I wouldn't bet on it.

OK... I couldn't help myself. I just ran into the garage with a multimeter. Unbuckled, airbag on, it read 2.25k ohms. Buckled, airbag off, it read 255 ohms. So there you go.

2003S 11-30-2011 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenLinkage (Post 266341)
My kids are all old enough to be forward facing now, and based on another thread on this site, I don't consider it beneficial to turn off the airbag anymore. But... if I wanted to, couldn't I just splice a labeled switch to short between the 2 wires under the passenger seat that the deactivation bar plugs into? In other words, does the forward buckle on the porsche child seats simply short across these wires when the buckle is inserted, or does it show the computer a certain specific resistance value that my switch would have to provide? Of course, the computer would still have to be programmed to recognize the signal. This would then have the advantage of allowing the use of any brand of car seat.

If you do a bit of searching there is a hack that someone made to simulate the factory 'bar' with just a switch - still needs the programming.

BrokenLinkage 12-01-2011 03:46 PM

thanks for the hackable data
 
Thanks 2003S and especially tamarsha. Should my family unexpectedly grow again, your info plus a trip to Radio Shack will help keep it safer.


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